runners united: no speed limits (LFDT), all running all out for fun/glory etc

PS I know the 9:18 (easy warm up), 9:10 (hard) looks a bit weird: it's because there's a good downhill section to get out from Durham into the country, and also it was cold so I was wanting to warm up quickly!

hi again (I should put the computer in the cupboard, I'm on here faaar too much just lately!)

orange good work mate, you are doing so well! The more time on your feet the easier it is (and, ime, the more you really look forward to the long run sessions). Meal worm here you come :)

I love the "friendly rivalry" between fanny and DrNo - "you're great", "no, you're better" - bet on the day there'll be a friendly grin, then head down, teeth gritted and you'll both be running like bats out of hell! Just how it should be

Very happy! My splits this time were: 9'18"/mi, 9'10"/mi, 10'53"/mi, 8'57"/mi, 10'27"/mi. Which is a lot better than last week :)

Help can't keep up.

In brief:

Shock Absorber all the way

Garmin every time

Too much work and stuff to do to keep up properly. Rhet, saw an ad the other day about a running thing from a sport shop in Dublin. Think they wanted some folk to try out new equipment on an organised run. Or summat. Sorry bit vague, will try to dig out link if you are interested.

Oh, and running. PB at parkrun on Saturday, finally dived under 24min. (ie did it in 23.59). 2 mile time trial on Tues evening at running club. HM looming in 11 days, eek. Moshi are we going to try to meet there? Are you still doing it?

looking at those stats makes me want a Garmin for geekyness alone lovely graphs[blush

DrNo hey, there is 4 months until Blackpool, believe me, you will come a LONG way in 4 months. Remember, I only came on this thread not too long ago and the wealth of advice I have had from everyone has brought me along so much. Haha re Garmin, I ALWAYS stop mine if I am doing different sections of speed work otherwise I wouldn't know my true pace. Tell the newbie to STFU.

hill run today for anyone who is interested. The last few feet were like a cliff, we only stopped when we got to the top and turned around. Felt like Mount Everest! Chuffed with myself.

stickyy friend just got her Garmin and used it for the first time today with heart rate monitor. She was very upset as we did a 6 mile run with nearly 500ft of climb, average pace 8.40 and Garmin informed her she'd only burned off 370 calories!! Mine said 597 so hers must be more accurate as its gone by her heart rate. rhet how does that work?

orange bloody well done girl. Great training run, that'll be the one which will boost you on the day.

running again, excellent! Sounds like you're really flying. Glad the speed sessions helping. Once you notice the difference, it spurs you on.

Debi bloody hell, that's awful, how can they be so dim?

Just done a killer hill, in 1.2 miles climbed nearly 400 feet. Run was 6 miles in total. I tell ya, I'm loving these hills, we didn't stop once, it was bloody hard work. I think the fells may be the next thing for me, they do a lot of them in the running club.

Moshi hope you're feeling ok today.

but but but I like touching my watch!

Just trying to catch up whilst taking part in uninteresting webinar. Bloomin job gets in the way of my Mnetting

rhet your mileage is awesome, really it is.

fanny if you can do 5 miles at 7.45m/m you will so whoop my arse in Blackpool, that pace is beyond me. And you are joing a club ? you will be not far off Moshi pace before long!

Re bras its shock absorber all the way for me too. I have 2, 1 is quite old but still in great condition. I am only 32B but have absolutely no movement going on when strapped into mine.

I did Tempo running at club last night and can declare it is my LEAST favourite discipline.

I got chatting to a newbie at running club last night, as we were doing Tempos I always stop my Garmin at the end of each effort other wise it knackers up my average pace and this newbie woman looked at me like I was mad and said ?Do you ever stop touching your watch?? [schock]

Good stuff orange! Bear in mind hills change gait. Uphill encourages forefoot running and downhill encourages heel striking. You may find one easier than the other for those reasons and / or because downhill is bliss after a difficult hill!

Just done 8 miles and it went really well. It felt alot stronger run than last week which I upped from 6 to 7 miles. I didn't even have any major LFDT moment. There was an unexpected hill at mile 5, funnily enough on the race there is a apparently a hill on mile 5 (then another on mile 8 but I won't think about that now) and I dealt with the hill fine although running down it was bliss. Also I did it quicker than expected last week I did 7 miles in 1hr 15 mins so I expected to do 8 in bout 1hr 25-26 mins but did it in 1hr 23 mins. Feel like I'm on a high and feeling alot more confident about the race now.
Sorry for the me post.

aha - I like the sound of this "virtual partner". I had a look on amazon and have changed my wish to a 405cx. Not so expensive as the 610 ( runningallday!), £139.99 so not all that much more than the 205. rhet's experience and thoughts here made me think a HRM might not be such a bad idea too, given I seem to hold back way too much. Ooh, come on Santa!!

runningallday that's an impressive improvement, very speedy :)

backward it is good isn't it? Glad I got it. I do feel fine today, tho, just slight tightness in my calves this morning. Roll on the fit and toned new us!

Speaking of which, better stop sitting here in my kit and actually do something. Happy running everyone!

Hill training at running club last night - a lot harder in my new group, but very good :)

Not really running related, but I have been looking for a cross-training workout I could do on the days in between my runs. So I ordered 30 Day Shred from Amazon and I just did the level 1 session. Before I did it, I thought a couple of thoughts - 1) would the first level work out be hard enough for me, as I'm pretty fit anyway, and 2) will the lightest weights I have be heavy enough, maybe I should use the medium size weights...

But then I thought, just do level 1 and use the lightest weights the first time... Thank goodness I did! Holy crap... I really enjoyed it, but it was so hard - I'm going to have mega sore arms tomorrow.

I am keeping up with reading your chat but so behind on posting that I won't even try. But lovely to see all the pics you have posted, and well done rhet on your incredible total.

Re watches, Wheely I am also still getting used to my new Garmin (I got a 610 - to make up for my complete lack of other gadgets) - and 'lap pace' is the predicted time it will take you to complete your current lap. So it is not quite your current pace as it includes your average pace for the bit of lap you have already done. So obviously, it is closer to your actual pace the less of you current lap that you have currently completed.

And as for programming a pace (was it sticky?), you can use the Virtual Partner function on the 610 (I don't know about the other models) which alerts you if you are dropping behind a certain average pace. The reason I got the 610 rather than the 410 was becuse it had all the whizzy functionality but is much smaller for bird wrists - only a little bigger than a standard watch.

Can't say enough for the speed training (thanks for the bossy talk fanny) - have cut my LSR average by 15secs this week to 9:30 over 14 miles, and just managed a tempo run at 8:43 over 5 miles which I would never have managed before reading this thread. You're all inspirational

rhet impressive
debi that sounds dispiriting

Will try and fit in a run today or make friends with Gillian which ever I can fit

My arms hurt. Did a training session yesterday which involved repeatedly running up a hill, doing increasing pyramid sets of punches, running back down, increasing sets of push ups. Fitness trainers are evil.

Hatwoman I'd go linen skirt or trousers, with fitted top or twin set. Would also caution that even when it's hot out meeting rooms can have brutal air con..

Sticky have you seen this. The new "Marathon of the North"? Now there's a challenge for you!

It's bit soon after the VLM for me I fear - but good to see that more big events are appearing on the calendar in the north!

There is also this series which is new-ish as well: I have already entered the HM & would be interested in the 3 10ks as well, all at scenic National trust locations in Northumberland.

rhet 2000K this year! That's very, very impressive. Well done.

Moshi It's not BF but pregnancy which sucks the life out of breasts I think. Blame your DH, NOT the kids!

Debi Are you a Secondary school teacher?

Oh my goodness. I've just spent nearly 3 hours marking exam papers. One kid got 1/30!!! Another got 2/30! It's a good job about 6 (out of 40) got more than half marks (they're sets 3 & 4 so wouldn't expect them to be amazing) or I would have been tempted to stay in bed tomorrow.
Seriously how can you get 1/30 on an exam that included 4 questions with a 50:50 chance???

And I've probably missed out on an evening's entertainment with you lot

FWIW on other watches - my dh has a suunto but it is much more fiddlier than the garmin. I used to have a footpod garmin and it over read distance dramatically. It was worse the further you went. So i would recommend a gps now i have one I think although still getting used to it....

Is that right it is current pace when you are running ? I thought it showed average pace when running but I understood that from here so possible I misread. I do find it different to the footpod - takes longer to react to change in pace which is also why I thought it showed average. But happy to be corrected.

rhet - you and your DDs and DP will have to come and stay with us in San Fran and run the hills around there. There are mountains not far away in Yosemite and Lake Tahoe.

Bras - hmmm, boobless since bfeeding 4 kids.

GPS watches - Garmins all the way. Friend working in running shop tries em all out and the Garmin is head and shoulders above the rest in terms of functionality and reliability.