Runners United: Where we support each other through the good runs, the bad runs and everything in between.

not quite the 10 minutes apart of monkey and cherry, but we might see each other at something... Do you do the GNR every year?

does the running help at all if you have a tendency to get sinusitis? I ask because even when I don't think I have a cold at all, as soon as I get out running I seem to turn into a snot factory (what with that and the exploding arse, it's just as well I choose out of the way routes . Delightful!) But I think it's good I get it all out my system, maybe I get fewer colds because of it.

sticky I'm in SE Northumberland. Yeh I tend to get a couple of infections every winter, won't decribe the grot that comes out of my sinuses as it's gross! I'm not alone then in the dropped guts dept :). Phew!

ange happens to me after most races...still trying to work out why as its not pleasant!

Sinusitis sounds horrible, is that something you get a lot? :( and of your friend's win!

angechica you're in the right place for loooong discussions of runner's tummy. I have learnt new terminology (gingerbread man, turtle poking its head out) and that pretty much everyone gets it some time or other (very reassuring!)

And yep, I'm in Durham.

fanny - torrential rain, driving winds, mountains, very rocky and rough underfoot = one cold, miserable, pissed off runner with a sucky time..

angechica runner's trots are a common malady, much discussed on this thread - avoiding caffeine seems to be one solution. Others will sympathise; this does happen to me sometimes, but usually only when running faster paces

Oh this thread is so busy! Slight training hiccup this week bad sinusitis = have only done 1 treadmill run. :( and only 2 weeks til my 10k. I see getting ill becoming a big fear before the big event. One of my fellow BTUK fundraisers won this today - how cool is that! I could so do with 600 quid of new kit

2 quick q's 1. anyone here in the NE? and also 2. has anyone ever experienced what I can only describe as an "attack of the shits" while running, that they think was caused by running? and what can you do to avoid it? This happened to me on a long run recently. I got to 10k then doubled over with tummy cramps I had to duck into 2 loos on the way I then thought I was going to get caught short ... I even grabbed some leaves, was about to duck into a bush and realised I was running right past a travellers camp and lots of little kids were looking at me so I had to waddle home instead. I normally don't have any stomach probs.

monkey it's a new run so I don't think there will be much support as it is by the new guided bus route and then round the science park..hardly busy on a Sunday morning! Saying that it's only 10k so won't be plodding for too long (hopefully!)

What happened in HM in May...?

I've found elevation for my HM - it's only 232ft!!!! So, theoretically , I should be able to welly it BUT I'm well aware that, wellying it probably will turn into burning out and plodding last 3 miles... Bastard races, why do we do it to ourselves, I turn into a racing werewolf.

yeah, I think it'll be alright, although i don't regularly run big long hills - but once I get up, then yes, it's downhill all the way. My only aim is to run the whole thing, really. I hope the weather is OK, otherwise it will be all too reminiscent of the Half Marathon of Indefinite Duration back in May

Like your description of my running ability!

rhet I am on the computer now so looked at your link re elevation for race. My fiercest run is (going by hats rule of feet per mile) is 208 ft per mile (1366 ft elevation in 6.56 mile run) However, mine is slightly easier than your race as it is a mix of about 6 hills. Yours is one big FUCK off hill! However, if you pace yourself well and jog it, once you are at the top, it is practically downhill all the way to the finish, you are going to have a lot of LETS FUCKING DO IT moments. You can do it though, just take it easy, DO NOT worry about time. That is a good mental race for you.

will scan it, but not till Monday - easier to do at work

a good fast runner who could be even faster :o

Oh bless you, rhet if you could scan it, that would be super, smashing, greatttt! I know for a fact, that if I had a HRM, I'd bore DH rigid with my heart rates. I've just been sat at kitchen table with calculator working out paces for Sunday. He was trying to have a conversation and my eyes were glazed over! I kind of like to go by how I feel, as that changes weekly. However heart rate no doubt takes into account if you're tired so no doubt, I'd probably benefit from having one....

ps. it is a bit boring and frustrating, mind you

fanny realistically? I'd be happy to get to just about 9.30 min/miles, a bit faster for racing...I just realise that I need to build up from the bottom (yes, you'd appreciate that!) - and the HRM thing is a better number for me to be fixating on as I run than a pace that I struggle to maintain. I think this approach doesn't work for everyone, but I've seen very little progress this year, and this might be just the thing. We'll see.

The book I have doesn't actually suggest extreme LHR training - just that the majority of your running would be genuinely easy. He has a case study of a runner that actually sounded a lot like you as a runner (or based on what you post here). I could scan it and send it to you if you liked...

wheely well sounds that your training for 10 miler worked so by adding on the miles and doing a good few 12/13/14 milers before will stand you in good stead. The more 13 plus miles I do, the more efficient I have become at doing them well. Whereas before the GNR I had only completed a 13 miler and 14 miler. Obviously the more long distance runs we do, the better we become! You've loads of time to get very good at the distance, your base now is great.

rhet I can't be arsed with HR monitor! However I see the science in it and will probably add one to my Garmin. What pace would you ideally and realistically like to get to? This race you've got on Saturday will probably put you out of your comfort zone and I think it'll do you the WORLD of good, especially for your confidence.

Hi all! So cherry and I have realised we live 10 minutes walk from each other!

futurity you'll be fine, I think once you know you're on your own you go into your own zone and it can be ok. Is there much support on the route?

Hills. Hmm. After a lot of reflection I'm really feeling that the hills round here are what you lot would call gentle inclines. Plenty of long slow climbs but nothing short and steep which I would like for hill intervals. There are some super steep hills near school but I always have ds3 with me then.

Busy day today, one of the mums in ds2's class has a personal trainer and has roped us all into doing an outdoor circuit class in her enormous estate garden with him. It was wet and really hard but just what I needed, squats, lunges, planks, skipping, crunches, running wearing leg weights .... Everything aches, especially my Dinner Lady Arms upper body. Good stuff though, right?

Then took ds3 to see Peppa Pig live, which was painful for all sorts of different reasons!

Yes Fanny. I typically find the last few miles difficult mentally so won't know what will happen in a half. ;my race time was not really much quicker than my training runs (1.24 - 25) but guessing that was a result maybe of not doing any speed training in the last 6 weeks due to injury.

I have run up to 11 miles in my training for GSR and 10 a few times so hopefully that's a good starting point together with getting back to intervals. And trying to get lots of 13 milers in before the event.

We'll see, 1.45 is a plan by the end of next year not Feb.

hello all - great to hear discussions of training plans etc etc going on. I'm simply going to run through the uphill 15k on Saturday and then resume a couple of months heart rate training - keeping all runs at < 70% of max HR. Problem is (1) that HRM is banjaxed and (2) that I can't quite be sure which HR to use - one formula would give 135 as limit (which is ok, if very very slow), but I have a book on heart rate training and his formulas, with my resting heart rate (which I think is about 52, but conservatively 55), suggest 146 - that's quite a difference. Both are easy running for me, so I am splitting the difference and going for 140. Hopefully in a few weeks I'll be running faster paces at that HR...and then I will add in some speedwork again. I should build good endurance - and already feel much more comfortable and happy out on the roads. I don't dread my running, or ever feel that I will struggle to finish.

Wheely I think the classic one does, this one was the more in depth one. The 1.25 to sub

wheely I've ran in training 10 milers in similar times to your race last week and I have to say, those last 3 miles are a marathon when you race them. My GNR 10 mile time was 1.23 but then the alloys were robbed and I rolled to the finish on
bricks . Didn't help that the last 3 miles of the GNR not ideal. My only training plan this time has been to do majority of my steady runs at HM pace so I feel comfortable at desired pace. You won't have any problems with getting a 1.50 HM, have you ran more than 10 miles before?