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On the tummy front..never ever been toned here and now destroyed by having 2 c-sections so all sort of weird wobbly as well as covered in stretch marks!

for you, your DB and family.

for your DB & family.

Your DNs ares lucky to have you, though. It might not feel like it now, but I'm sure they draw comfort and strength from you.

DrNo October 16th... and yes, it is a really hilly course. Not a PB route! But very scenic, and finishing in Richmond castle is great (though the cobbles are not). There is a real ale festival afterwards...:)

website The closing date for entries is soon, so we're just sorting out logistics and should be entering tomorrow.

Orange that's an awful lot for anyone to cope with. I surely wouldn't worry about this thread being read (even we who post on it all the time have trouble keeping up). I hope the running helps you keep it all together. You're amazing.

On the subject that I actually know something about - my goodness woman, I don't know how all these Other Women manage to have washboard stomachs after childbirth. I'm guessing a lot of hard work! After DD2 it all went badly wrong in my stomach department, so I deal with it by never going near a bikini and otherwise not minding - just like Laurence of Arabia... :)

orange - so sorry to hear about your db and dn, hope you all manage to find some peace amongst all the turmoil.

Orange that is so tragic for your family, my goodness the crap I complain about sometimes, makes me ashamed. You are amazing for caring for your dn, your db must be so relieved to have you.

Oh ya, my tummy is sooooooo not toned. I dunno how many miles I'd have to run to achieve that!!

Moshi San Fran, how fantastic. Scary decision tho' We left London 13 years ago, it was a very difficult decision but the best one we ever made, for our family anyway.

sticky my island is the greatest crap gatherer in the history of crap gatherers. My dh piles the whole world on that thing. I'm hoping a shiny new one (that he had to build himself) might stop this perching of shit all over the damn thing, probably a vain hope

Think I have put too much personal stuff on mumsnet to put a photo on. I already worrying my db might read this thread and be annoyed. Only immediate family know he ill, to everyone else I have to pretend everything ok as he wants no one to know. How silly am I, of course he is not going to read a running thread on mumsnet.

Sorry orange. That's incredibly tough for all of you.

orange - can we see your photos please? I bet your tummy is nowhere near as huge as you think! We tend to spot what we worry about the most but when others are asked they don't see them. We can reassure you if you show us the link!

Thankyou everyone. Just checked on him and he fast to sleep.
On another note (trying not to be negatve) the photos of my 10k are finally on the website and my tummy looks really huge on the photos . I have toned up everywhere since starting running but my tummy flab is as strong as ever. How do people manage to have flat tummies after children? It's a good job they are worth it

orange so sorry to her about DB. Life is so cruel. Your DN is the exact same age as DD2 and the thought of her going through such turmoil at such a young age is heartbreaking. What a lovely family you are, all sticking together and helping your DB and his family.

orange, my heart breaks for you DN, and for your whole family. It must be good to be able to do something practical for your brother and SIL. I can't imagine how tough it must be.

Thanks Moshi, he has Aids sil is hiv positive thankfully both the kids are ok.

orange Just want to give you a big hug x

Crossposts as slow on my phone.

orange - thinking of you all.

peach - sounds fab.

orange that is truly dreadful. Poor you and your little DN. I hope you get through this and your DB is not in a bad place. A friend's close friend has terminal cancer and is so forthright and brave about her predicament (leaving her two kids, husband dead already) that it makes me feel so in awe of how strong she is. Keep us posted if we can possibly help at all. Failing that, go running!

He just turned four last week. They also have a 1 year old, he has gone to dsil mums house.

Thanks moshi. I was only thinking of 1-2 weeks rest on the ankle. Nothing drastic and then only if it was required which hopefully it won't be. I think I would still be able to fit in 3 months of training though so will take a look at the r w plans. I quite like having structure.

drno I was miffed when my sil best me in rfl esp as she passed me near the end and I didn't realise it was her until we crossed the line. I could have caught her if I'd realised ;-). Not that I'm competitive. Ahem .....

On way home from Caballo Blanco. It was great! He is a pretty unassuming, but inspiring guy. He basically described how he had got into ultrarunning, how he set up the race, and how the race had gone over the years. He also showed a film which was great as gave you a better sense of the location and the town etc.

He has an amazing outlook on life and running, and made me want to go crazy and do am ultramarathon. Perhaps I should do a marathon
first...

Cest, if you didn't make it, don't worry, he is not anti-shoe!!! He said he likes anything that is cheap or free!

Got my copy of Born To Run signed! It says "To peachsmuggler. run Free! Caballo Blanco"

Moshi he is with us at least a week maybe two, although my sister is having him a couple of nights. Db is very ill, he was told about 12 months ago he had about a year left. Dsil is on a training course for work which is compulsory (she has not told work either of them are ill) and db not well enough to care for dn.

orange - poor little DN. I am sorry I must have missed the goings on. Is he with you for long? What has happened to his parents? I am hopeless at keeping up here. Apologies. You sound like you are doing a great job of caring for him.

wheely - I can understand wanting to rest your ankle but I think you should try maintain the volume of running miles as there will be less of an impact to the system when you commence the schedule for the HM. You could incorporate more rest days to help the ankle but maintain the LSRs which will really help when you deal with the longer runs and you will find faster running easier over longer distances. Look for a plan that suits the time you have between the GSR and your HM and factor in that it will fall over Christmas and tailor it according to your requirements/family/work situation. Does that make sense? I have found that stopping and starting with each pregnancy made it harder to regain lost ground whereas if you continue ticking over your body will absorb the training and therefore any improvements much quicker!

Just realised it was wheely who was feeling sick - apologies paws for telling you off! wheely get drinking water woman!!!

Actually moshi - looking at your link, I have probably answeredmy own question. I hadn't looked at the RW plans and see they are for particular times (at half marathon) so I guess they are worth looking at for sure. Just need to get my bro to give me his subscriber number (well I did buy his RW sub as a pressie).