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dratted child up since 4.30...this really isn't helpful when logging 60k a week

Hello - I have added in another race for me - I hope I have cut and pasted the right list and got everyone's race on there. I have entered the Great South Run at the end of October with a couple of family members - be a challenge as they are both speedy.

01/05/11 - Great West Run (Half Marathon) Thetasigmamum
02/05/11 - Ashdon 10K: bonkers20
07/05/11 - Forres (Benromach) 10k: backwardpossom
10/05/11 - Burbage Skyline 5.75 miles: Hatwoman
14/05/11 - Chester Half Marathon: IreadthereforeIam
15/05/11 - Oxford Town and Gown 10k: Goldberry
21/05/11 - Clare Burren Marathon Challenge - drivingmisscrazy
22/05/11 - Edinburgh Marathon: MrsWednesday
22/05/11 - Merchant Taylors' Triathlon: MoshiMoshi
22/05/11 - Edinburgh Half Marathon: backwardpossom, squix
29/05/11 - Stirling R4L: squix
29/05/11 - Plymouth Half Marathon: sungirltan
30/05/11 - BUPA 10K: MoshiMoshi
05/06/11 - Seaford Half Marathon: Doyouthinktheysaurus
05/06/11 - Tilty Hilly 5(mile): bonkers20
05/06/11 - RFL 10k: LaLa
08/06/11 - Claver Peak 5 miles: hatwoman
11/06/11 - Clumber Park R4L 10k Hamster
12/06/11 - Bath R4L 5k Dillinger
12/06/11 - Redcar half marathon - DrNortherner
12/06/11 - The Heroes half marathon - Futurity
19/06/11 - Dash for Dads - Pawsnclaws
19/06/11 - Half Ironman UK 70.3 - Twink, MoshiMoshi
25/06/11 - Lewa half marathon Kenya - Masterandmargaritas
26/06/11 - Stortford 10 miles - thecoo
26/06/11 - Colworth half marathon - cestlavie
10/07/11 - RFL 5K, Kingston & Kempton Park: Wheelybug
10/07/11 - Felsted 10K: bonkers20
17/07/11 - RFL St Albans - Pawsnclaws
17/07/11 - Dublin Mountain Plod (HM) - drivingmisscrazy
18/09/11 - GNR: Hamster, Run for fun, popsycal, LaLa
23/09/11 - Notting Half Marathon: cestlavie
24/09/11 - mooathon, donegal: drivingmisscrazy
25/09/11 - Edinburgh Urbanathlon: backwardpossom
16/10/11 - Abingdon Marathon: MoshiMoshi
30/10/11 - Great South Run: Wheely, squix
10/12/11 - Clonakilty Waterfront Marathon (half): drivingmisscrazy

Did a really hard 12 miles on Sunday - I think I was tired after a party with 15 four year olds on Saturday (that was harder work than most of my long runs) and I didn't help myself by having a takeaway on saturday night - not the most nutritious of meals to feul up before a long run. I was also trying a new route and had to turn round as I ran out of pavement on a main A road.

Made up for it today with 5 1/2 miles at 1/2 min a mile faster than my 13.1 mile target - felt ok afterwards too. We were visiting family and my route was flat - made such a difference. Also tried out my sister's Garmin Forerunner 305 and I think that's the model I've settled on - it's nowhere near as big as it seems in the pictures and is incredibly light as well.

Pavlov and peach- its interesting about posture isn't it - I have always thought I had dreadful posture - my husband today told me that I look 'elegant' - never though of myself like that before

wheely no worries about sending them back. See if anyone else on here will benefit from them. They are deffo not a 5 as it says are they?!

OMG moshi at the ironman. You must be super fit. Respect to you! Do you enjoy cycling? Your bianchi looks very nice indeed - is it a carbon frame?

peach the interval session was far from refreshing - it was such hard work I was gasping for breath and spitting into the grass. We did a half mile jog to the track, then a variation of a number of 400m circuits for about 45 mins, then a warm down jog back to the club house. Did 5.2 miles in total. In technical running terms I am f**ked

moshi a 1500 mile swim? Now that is impressive

Thanks everyone - I was being a bit head in the sand about a sports physio as I don't have the spare cash at the moment but I know really what I need to do. Hmm. I'll maybe try something really gentle and see how that goes (she says, knowing that even 12x walk 1 min run 1 min is going to leave me gasping for breath with a bright red balloon face )

Will have a go later this week and let you know how it goes, and if it's impossible then I'll at least have some feedback fir the physio

sfx glad the pains have gone and normal service resumed!

Sounds like you had a lovely break cestlavie, v envious of you being in Scotland!

Sympathies about the iPod embargo Theta agree with the others that you can probably get away with putting it on when it gets quieter.

Have fun doing you refreshing interval Training DrNo. I wonder if your running session organiser works in marketing...

Thanks for the good wishes, feeling too rough for running this week. Had first hurl today also. Thankyou Sainsburys and your conveniently located toilets!

Ishall, welcome! I would definitely think about seeing a physio and gait analysis will bf a must as am sure it will have changed massively post-bunions! Good luck!

pavlov, great to hear you are already feeling the benefits. I agree that running helps posture. You see! Is there nothing running cannot do?? T'is a thing of beauty.

paws, have you got yourself an improvers' marathon training plan, I suppose it might be a bit early to start it in any case, but can see that it would be easy just to meander about till then. However if you keep up the long runs and use the others to do speed/hills that would keep the motivation/fitness up. Hopefully a seasoned marathon runner will be along to help!

Moshi remind me, is this your first Tri?

I have not been for a run for 4 days! I am bursting to go, and wanted to go this evening after my DB went home after easter visit, but DH has headed straight out for the night! tomorrow, I shall go tomorrow, but that will be 5 days! It is going to hurt isn't it? starting then stopping for so long.

But, get this. I feel fitter after only a week of running. I also am seeing myself differently, I know I have not built up my muscle tone at all yet, but I think I look fitter! I suspect I am maybe holding myself more upright or something, very odd.

I am keen still though which is a good start. This week I will go every day including the weekend, then Tuesday is The Day I Start my run from work every day!

All this talk of fast paced/slow paced is making my head spin. I will be lucky to just be moving in any capacity!

Ishall I think I would be tempted to see a physio - sounds like you'll need a bit of rehab, followed by a decent shoe fitting. Sympathies with the bunion removal, I have a problem with one of my big toes caused by a break many years ago - the toe apparently needs to be re-broken and re-set but I just can't face being out of action for so long.

Ladies (and gentleman) I think I'm going to need some help with my training programme for October. Not really sure what to do with myself at the moment, though I've booked the gym tomorrow and I think I'll try a little speed for the first time in a couple of weeks. I'm thinking of working on my speed and shifting some weight before I get serious about the next marathon .

Thanks moshi - the speed I'd need to rn the 5K at is 13 kph so I think I could manage the fast intervals at that. I think timewise though that's the absolute maximum I could manage in the session and would work out longer than I usually do - which is probably good for me but a daunting prospect (I run longer outside just truggle on the treadmill)

So would you do this as one of my gym sessions and then run the other gym session with just one section at 13 kph (clueless emoticon).

Hello ishallwearmidnight - I have no idea really either but agree with drno about getting your feet/gait analysed, then I'd just take it steady and listen to your body/feet !

drno - I have tried your shoes and thought they'd be ok but I think they are just slightly too small. Do you want them back for dog walking purposes ? It is a real shame as my current shoes are wearing through on the webbing at the top I discovered last week which is a bit annoying as I thought I had a few more weeks in them.

Hello IShallWearMidnight, welcome! I have no idea of running post surgery, but great that you are keen to get back to it. Personally, I would go to a specialist running store to get my gait analysed, buy correct supportive trainers and start steady and slow. See how you go. Good luck!

Cestlavie we sure do have wonderful countryside up here. I may be biased but I think the Yorkshire Dales are just stunning.

Lol at the thread challenge of running with various groceries The milk running has made me chuckle.

moshi when will you start the swimming training? How long is the Triathlon in total?

I am off to running club this eve, for what the coach is describing a session of 'refreshing interval training'..... Chance to work off the chocolate eggs I ate at work today....

I think I will opt for running with a raisin

I am sitting on my hands to prevent me entering the ballot again

So tempting but I want a shot at a decent time. Hope it fills up soon. Remove temptation and

It's not just the music. Well, it is mainly the music, I have a stonkingly good (for my purposes) tracklist. It really lifts me at crucial points. But it's also runkeeper. I need the woman whispering in my ear. I don't have one of those rinky dinky watches to do pace/mileage etc and I'm not mad keen to shell out for one just for one race when runkeeper does everything I could ever want. And I do love my tunes. It's not unknown for me to conduct, play air timpani, or sing along while running.

And thanks Moshi for the KM conversion - I was about to do the maths but its much easier when someone else does it (spot the accountant....)

Thanks for more advice moshi and c'est.

Just to clarify Moshi - on your plan, would the fast runs be the same speed or different speeds (increasing ?) ? It sounds harder than I did today so that's not good but I like C'est idea about decreasing the speed of my recovery runs. I wasn't sure what I should do speed wise with those.

Will maybe try this on thurs although that should be my 'tempo' run...

No, the foodstuffs is just people trying to multi-task I think - in my case DH saying as I headed out the door "can you just pick up some milk at the petrol station on your way back ......." Maybe we could field a VLM fruit and veg carrying team - us slowies can carry a grape or maybe a lemon, the faster amongst you can manage a watermelon or a pineapple . I sense a world record attempt guys?!

Well I've put in my ballot request - let's see what happens. DH has tried too, though we both got rejected last year and so did my other friend who has tried.

thetasigma I tried to run Brighton without my ipod and found it torture. I don't mind not having it for short runs, but there was a stretch in Brighton from 20 to 23 miles round the power station with no entertainment, and it was dull. I would just tuck it into your shorts and if you feel comfortable and safe (ie the course isn't too crowded) I would just use it.

hello proper running types! I'm popping in here to ask a question before i head off to my natural habitat of C25K as you're probably more experienced.

I had bunions removed in Sept last year and Jan this year, and I'm not sure when I ought to start back with the C25K programme, or exactly how I should be starting (walking first, then addiing in the jog/run bit). I'd had the bunions for years and years, so my walking (and presumably running) gait was all to pot, and currently my second foot hurts on the top where I haven't had to use the muscles for a long time.

Or should I be thinking about a proper gait analysis/sports physio session(s) before even attempting running again? I started C25K a couple of years back, but had to give up around week 6 as my knee was incredibly swollen and painful, which my GP reckoned was probably because of the bunions, so he eventually referred me for surgery. I'm just really nervous of messing up my feet, but according to my consultant (in the 2 minutes he spent with me in my 6 week post surgery checkup ) I can get on with normal life, but to expect swelling for up to a year afterwards.

Anyone any experience of post surgery running?

Is this running with groceries today? I'd go for a small tangerine and a grape if that's okay...

Hi Wheely - great workout. Would agree with Moshi but would add I think you need to drop the speed on the recoveries to make sure you push yourself as hard as you can on the speed intervals and maximise the cardio benefits of those bits. Haven't been down the gym for absolutely ages but when I used to run treadmill intervals my slow ones were about 8kph and fast were about 15kph. Although it's hard (and I'm guilty of it far too much) try not to worry about total distance or average speed - it's quality of the speed intervals that counts.

what is this about people running with assorted foodstuffs? is this some sort of quaint English Spring custom I am unaware of? perhaps should read rather than skim read thread

welcome to all newbies speedy and slower ones

peach good news glad to hear

here running rumbled somewhat last week when I had some weird belly pain for a few days, thought maybe something from surgery in Feb despite excellent recovery, did tests last week awaiting result but pain gone, very bizarre
resumed running

happy running all