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Ideas for solutions to help much appreciated. (Elderly DM and neighbour with dementia).

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MerrilyMoving · 08/08/2026 13:37

My DM lives alone, since my DF died 18 months ago.

She is 85, fit, active and generally really well.

I live an hour away.

During the last 6 months her elderly, male, married neighbour has started to cross from his garden to hers, has followed her to her door and has started to come and knock on the side door. The knocking can last 15-20 minutes if she doesn’t answer.
He has dementia and is non-verbal.

He lives with his wife who is frequently out of the home. He has adult children who visit. He wanders out of his home more when other adults are there but sometimes when he is at home he is alone.

DM is scared of him. She has tried to talk to his wife who blames my DM. ‘He doesn’t do this to anyone else’.
Suggestions by his wife, to resolve this have been that DM should stay indoors, shouldn’t water her garden and should buy a padlock for her gate.
His adult children have warned my DM not to upset their mum by talking about this to her.

DM has asked the police for advice about this man coming to the house. They didn’t have a solution, just checked he hadn’t touched her, hurt her or vandalised anything. If he does she needs to call 999.

My MiL had dementia too, so I understand the sadness his family will be going through, their denial, concern and care for him. However his wife and adult children shouting at my DM and blaming her is unacceptable.

I’m hoping wise people that you may have some solutions or ideas. I am thinking of a call to adult social care at the council, under safeguarding?

ETA we are installing a camera at DM’s tomorrow.

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MerrilyMoving · 09/08/2026 14:55

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 09/08/2026 14:18

So her front door is behind the gate and she doesn’t want the gate locked as she’d be locked in?

A big bell on her gate would give her time to get in the house of he does come to the gate.

The layout is like this (site diagram as new) The entrance door (red area) is at the side. With the gate moved forward, the door is behind the gate. The gate would have to be locked to prevent him trying her door, knocking on the door window etc.

DM is reluctant to be locked in. She also tends her front garden, cuts her lawn, waters her pots and did have a space to sit (not used now). She is scared to be out there, partly incase he comes across the (quiet) road from his own house and partly because his family seem to be implying that DM encourages him as he doesn’t do this to anyone else. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Ideas for solutions to help much appreciated. (Elderly DM and neighbour with dementia).
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ExplodingSmittens · 09/08/2026 14:45

Nearly50omg · 09/08/2026 14:38

Why should she be locked in??? The old man is the problem and the family should be locking HIS front door for a start!!!! The police need speaking to about the old man AND his abusive relatives as frankly they need charging for shouting at her and neglecting the old man! They won’t want him in a home s will lose their inheritance but if they want to keep him at home they need to keep him safe AND the neighbours!!! Sod being nice to them!!!!

If you looked at my previous posts I was suggesting this as general home safety measure. I have mine locked and have had for years. It’s absolutely no problem and I do feel safer on the back garden alone.

Nearly50omg · 09/08/2026 14:42

MerrilyMoving · 08/08/2026 22:22

The man with dementia lives opposite, across a quiet road. DM would have to fence her large front garden with something quite substantial.

And why should she???? All this talk of fences and locks will make her even more scared!!! POLICE and senior officer and you go with her is only way forward. Less of the sympathy for the old bloke and more for your mum who is frightened in her own house and in her own garden and has been abused by the neighbours children!!!! Sod being nice and get angry on behalf of your mum!!! SHE is the priority to you NOT him!!! You are in work mode and need to be in how do I help my mum as a priority mode!!! Shouting at your mum for wanting to be safe in her own house??? NO not on! Police need to go and speak to them and tell them to lock THEIR doors for a start!!!!

Nearly50omg · 09/08/2026 14:38

ExplodingSmittens · 08/08/2026 23:00

Definitely put a padlock on the gate. I was burgled many years ago and have always had a padlock on the side gate since then.

Your DM might not want to be “locked in the garden” but can you persuade her on a home safety aspect?

If you are fitting a camera will you have one where you can store cottage and talk to people in view?

Personally I wouldn’t approach the family. They seem in denial, irrational and deeply unpleasant. Your poor DM has to live their full time and I would be worried about her if the family have already shouted at her.

Why should she be locked in??? The old man is the problem and the family should be locking HIS front door for a start!!!! The police need speaking to about the old man AND his abusive relatives as frankly they need charging for shouting at her and neglecting the old man! They won’t want him in a home s will lose their inheritance but if they want to keep him at home they need to keep him safe AND the neighbours!!! Sod being nice to them!!!!

Nearly50omg · 09/08/2026 14:34

Your mum needs to put a complaint into the police as she’s being harassed not just bh she old man but by their children and then shouting at her too CAN have something done about it!!! She frightened by all these people and that’s not on and that’s what the police are for! Go with her to the police and ask for a senior officer and ask why this wasn’t dealt with properly the first time!!

the relatives are responsible for their dad NOT you and your mum!!! Their behaviour needs pointing out by the police that it’s not on and they need to be told to sort their doors out to stop him getting out!!! This isn’t your or your mums problem to sort it’s THEIRS!!!

Rockfrock · 09/08/2026 14:27

You could buy DM a couple of panic alarm key rings that make a huge noise when she turns the panic sensor on. She could have several positioned around house and garden.Their noise would alert others immediately.
But the errant neighbour must be doing other activities. His family being in denial can’t be a thing anymore. With that level of fixation he’s bound to be causing other issues within their home and the scales must have fallen from their eyes.

ExplodingSmittens · 09/08/2026 14:24

MerrilyMoving · 09/08/2026 14:17

Windows and integral garage/drive to the front. Open plan garden. Pathway to a side entrance. Rear garden and rear door. Gate added between the house and a fence shared with the NDN. This is the gate that would have to be locked.

So as well as a camera and locking the gate, would a box for her post be useful as well as a box for the milk and a light that she could turn on from the house that would illuminate him on darker days and evening?

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 09/08/2026 14:18

So her front door is behind the gate and she doesn’t want the gate locked as she’d be locked in?

A big bell on her gate would give her time to get in the house of he does come to the gate.

MerrilyMoving · 09/08/2026 14:17

ExplodingSmittens · 09/08/2026 13:51

You mention milk and post. How is the layout of your DM’s home? Our front door os accessible from the street but there is a gate before the back door and this is the one that’s locked.

Is your DM’s home similar?

Windows and integral garage/drive to the front. Open plan garden. Pathway to a side entrance. Rear garden and rear door. Gate added between the house and a fence shared with the NDN. This is the gate that would have to be locked.

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Bababear987 · 09/08/2026 14:15

What about a sprinkler system in the garden?

ExplodingSmittens · 09/08/2026 13:51

You mention milk and post. How is the layout of your DM’s home? Our front door os accessible from the street but there is a gate before the back door and this is the one that’s locked.

Is your DM’s home similar?

MerrilyMoving · 09/08/2026 13:40

fishfingergermanbight · 09/08/2026 13:22

I would start with beefing up physical barriers. Make the fences taller and more secure. Fit taller gates with locks. Perhaps if it’s harder for him to approach the house, he will be put off a bit. But I agree with advice above to talk to interested parties and SS if needed. Just thought that the fence etc thing could be done very much more quickly than all the negotiations you will need.

There aren’t any fences unfortunately. As I explained above the front gardens are open plan with fences not allowed. The man in question also lives in a house without a front fence, opposite DM.

DM is concerned that she is going to be locked in when she isn’t the issue.

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DozyCrow · 09/08/2026 13:36

Does your mum use a smartphone OP, or a tablet? As well as a Ring doorbell I also have a 'window cam' it's a small camera that sticks to the inside of the window and monitors outside. If it detects movement within its set range (which you can reduce or block areas out) it sends a notification to my phone and I get a beep. It's actually more sensitive than my Ring. You can also insert an SD card so that you can play back footage.

fishfingergermanbight · 09/08/2026 13:22

I would start with beefing up physical barriers. Make the fences taller and more secure. Fit taller gates with locks. Perhaps if it’s harder for him to approach the house, he will be put off a bit. But I agree with advice above to talk to interested parties and SS if needed. Just thought that the fence etc thing could be done very much more quickly than all the negotiations you will need.

Victorius19 · 09/08/2026 13:00

I wonder if it's worth ringing your DM's local adult social care helpdesk. Explain that your DM is vulnerable living alone and this man is scaring her, and that the Police/man's family aren't being very helpful. Your poor DM, this must be horrendous for her.

Wofflewaffle · 09/08/2026 12:52

What a hard situation.

if you are going to play nice then getting a phone number to contact every time he does this is a must. It spent be your mums problem, it’s for his family to deal with.

If they refuse this then you would be justified in escalating the matter.

ExplodingSmittens · 08/08/2026 23:00

Definitely put a padlock on the gate. I was burgled many years ago and have always had a padlock on the side gate since then.

Your DM might not want to be “locked in the garden” but can you persuade her on a home safety aspect?

If you are fitting a camera will you have one where you can store cottage and talk to people in view?

Personally I wouldn’t approach the family. They seem in denial, irrational and deeply unpleasant. Your poor DM has to live their full time and I would be worried about her if the family have already shouted at her.

Octavia64 · 08/08/2026 22:42

MerrilyMoving · 08/08/2026 22:06

Yes, I agree about the gate, sadly.

DM was more indignant about ‘why should I be locked in’ but I am wondering if this will change the man’s current fixation and perhaps after a few weeks this will pass.

There is the added advantage that he will be at the gate in full sight, rather than along the side of the house where nobody can see him.

It does prevent DM from easy access to half of her gardens, unfortunately and I’m not sure what would happen with the post, newspapers, milk delivery or unexpected visiting friends and family.

I have a plastic crate by the gate with parcels written on it in sharpie.

it’s pretty waterproof and most post/milk/etc gets put in there no problem.

I’d imagine once the habit is broken you won’t need it (and he’ll probably bother someone else less amenable)

Newspaperarticle · 08/08/2026 22:39

Several good suggestions from PPs here.
I would add that since the police won't do anything unless she is actually harmed - awful, I know - I would suggest that DM continue to call the police BUT tell them not that he is bothering her but that he appears to be a vulnerable, disorientated individual who is confused and at risk. That might get them to take notice.

Mossstitch · 08/08/2026 22:34

If I've understood this correctly, your mother doesn't have a front door so her main entrance would be behind a padlocked side gate, if so i don't think this would be safe, if there was a fire or some other emergency and the key wasn't readily available your mother would be trapped. Perhaps some other mechanism may be safer, just a bolt high up on the inside so that emergency services could access it but the man with dementia couldn't.

stichguru · 08/08/2026 22:32

I am not sure what the practical answer is, but please understand that these relatives are MASSIVELY failing in the duty of care. My mum had dementia and preventing her from doing things that hurt or scared, or potentially hurt or scared others was a massive part of the care we gave her. It is bloody disrespectful to the person with dementia to let them do things you know they would have not have done before they were ill.

NotMeNoNo · 08/08/2026 22:29

A combination padlock could be a solution, it's a bit easier than messing around with keys. Yes it is inconvenient for deliveries etc but if there is a Ring doorbell/camera you can screen them.

My mum wandered severely during her last year at home with dementia, we had to secure their garden in the end, until my dad finally agreed to a care home. We used a combination lock, there was a sticker with the code but mum couldn't read or remember it.

You definitely need a number to ring "please fetch Fred back he's over here again".

MerrilyMoving · 08/08/2026 22:22

Dontevenlookatme · 08/08/2026 22:18

I wonder if you could install a temporary barrier between the gardens OP? I understand about the no fence rule but realistically who is going to enforce it?

The man with dementia lives opposite, across a quiet road. DM would have to fence her large front garden with something quite substantial.

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Dontevenlookatme · 08/08/2026 22:18

I wonder if you could install a temporary barrier between the gardens OP? I understand about the no fence rule but realistically who is going to enforce it?

Ilikebluewhataboutyou · 08/08/2026 22:10

I am sure I have seen advertised ring type doorbells where you can talk to the person at the front door via a phone, even if you are not at the house yourself. Maybe something like this might work, especially if a man's voice shouted at him to bugger off or similar. In his demented state he wouldn't know that the male shouting at him wasn't actually in the house.