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Ideas for solutions to help much appreciated. (Elderly DM and neighbour with dementia).

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MerrilyMoving · 08/08/2026 13:37

My DM lives alone, since my DF died 18 months ago.

She is 85, fit, active and generally really well.

I live an hour away.

During the last 6 months her elderly, male, married neighbour has started to cross from his garden to hers, has followed her to her door and has started to come and knock on the side door. The knocking can last 15-20 minutes if she doesn’t answer.
He has dementia and is non-verbal.

He lives with his wife who is frequently out of the home. He has adult children who visit. He wanders out of his home more when other adults are there but sometimes when he is at home he is alone.

DM is scared of him. She has tried to talk to his wife who blames my DM. ‘He doesn’t do this to anyone else’.
Suggestions by his wife, to resolve this have been that DM should stay indoors, shouldn’t water her garden and should buy a padlock for her gate.
His adult children have warned my DM not to upset their mum by talking about this to her.

DM has asked the police for advice about this man coming to the house. They didn’t have a solution, just checked he hadn’t touched her, hurt her or vandalised anything. If he does she needs to call 999.

My MiL had dementia too, so I understand the sadness his family will be going through, their denial, concern and care for him. However his wife and adult children shouting at my DM and blaming her is unacceptable.

I’m hoping wise people that you may have some solutions or ideas. I am thinking of a call to adult social care at the council, under safeguarding?

ETA we are installing a camera at DM’s tomorrow.

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Rockfrock · 20/08/2026 16:39

@MerrilyMoving Has the neighbour issue improved or worsened?

MerrilyMoving · 17/08/2026 14:01

whowhatwerewhy · 13/08/2026 07:12

Glad you have now installed a camera, and have advised from social services.
I do think your mom needs to take additional steps to secure her gate . This doesn’t mean she’s locked in . I have a simple chain on my gate to stop the dogs from opening it .

That looks great, easy to fit.

DM is still reluctant but I think my next step will be to go to our local agricultural store and try the catch out. If she knows she can open it, she may feel better.

All calm at the minute. His family seem to be spending more time with him.

Though DM can talk of nothing else…

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whowhatwerewhy · 13/08/2026 07:12

Glad you have now installed a camera, and have advised from social services.
I do think your mom needs to take additional steps to secure her gate . This doesn’t mean she’s locked in . I have a simple chain on my gate to stop the dogs from opening it .

Ideas for solutions to help much appreciated. (Elderly DM and neighbour with dementia).
MerrilyMoving · 12/08/2026 09:16

A quick update as others have put time and energy into providing advice and this thread may help others.

Camera is up, this will record and therefore give a log. It is set to show the gate too. DM see outside from the app on her mobile phone.

My call to Adult Social Care was advisory and helpful. I didn’t share any identifying details at this stage.
Advice was that I can make a referral on behalf of my DM as the vulnerable adult ASC will send someone to see her, they will look at her house and make any security suggestions. They will also visit the man’s family to discuss this with them.
I can also make a report (named or anonymously) about the safeguarding of this man.
I had a very professional conversation with the staff member, mainly talking out loud and answering my own questions as I did so, but also gaining an added understanding of the referral process.

I will talk with the man’s family if I get chance, in a low key, ‘happen to see them way’ or in a planned way if it happens again. This will be an objective conversation about my DM and our rights and next steps in making a referral on her behalf. They can’t object to that.

She is still reluctant to have a locked gate even though I have explained that this would mean he remains in full view. She does not like the thought of her freedom being restricted and a slight ‘why should his family not have to do anything, but I do’.

Time to move on from her thoughts would be a good thing. Let’s see how it goes.

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Clairescorner · 11/08/2026 17:35

I would advise her to keep a log of times, dates etc.

It also might be worth logging with the police on the non emergency number (101?) each time.

She is being harassed and it's not on (no matter the reason).
You could could try adult social services.
Also mp's can some times help with things like this(some of them have high up connections /can get things done in some places).
Unfortunately I suspect things will probably get worse before they get better which is why she should log everything. If his family are reluctant to get involved it could be a long slog /high threshold before ss step in/action is taken. I hope not but sadly expect you will need to keep reporting and keep escalating things with police/ss etc :(
I wish you well, it's a sad situation all round :(

user85642879067 · 10/08/2026 10:57

MerrilyMoving · 10/08/2026 10:10

A huge thank you! The ‘cow chain’ sounds like a great idea, less ‘lockable’ so easier for DM and others to get in and out, but perhaps enough to stop/delay the neighbour.

I will make a visit to our local agricultural store!

Unfortunately all ours are old antique ones so I can’t advise where to buy one in person, but I’ve just googled and there’s loads online.
A spring clip one, like a horses lead rope might work too if you cant find the T bar type.

unsync · 10/08/2026 10:55

@MerrilyMoving When you register your elderly, vulnerable loved one with SS, they keep a register (at least my County does). It means if there's an incident (fire / police / ambulance), these services are aware. Also, they will send an OT to see if there is anything they can offer to help with independence - half steps, rails, shower grab rails etc.

The PSR will ensure that they are notified in the case of a power cut / water being cut off and so on, and the utilities prioritise their reconnection where possible. It means that they don't need to worry about contacting the utility company if something goes wrong, they will be notified.

Also if your mother has a digital VoIP telephone, she can get a UPS so that in the event of a power failure, she is not left without communications.

There's lots of help out there, but tracking it down is tortuous.

With regard to the neighbour, are all the houses similar? If your mother's house looks like his, he may well think that it's his house, hence the trying to get into it. He could be coming out of his house, seeing the house opposite, recognising it as looking like his and 'going home'.

My father had dementia. They really do live in a completely different world. The easiest way of dealing with resultant behaviour, is to put yourself in their world and try and see things how they do.

It's a sad situation all round.

MerrilyMoving · 10/08/2026 10:10

user85642879067 · 10/08/2026 09:39

Securing the gate without locking is a good idea OP. Have you ever come across a Cow Chain? Not sure thats its proper name, but basically a chain with a bigger circle and a T shape on the ends that you put through the circle to secure. We have them on our horse paddocks and it’s amazing how many people that haven’t come across them can’t work out how to open them! They’d definitely outsmart him if he's not thinking well and lost fine motor skills while being easy to use if you know how. Such a shame his family won't engage because they’d probably have better ideas about what would put him off.

A huge thank you! The ‘cow chain’ sounds like a great idea, less ‘lockable’ so easier for DM and others to get in and out, but perhaps enough to stop/delay the neighbour.

I will make a visit to our local agricultural store!

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user85642879067 · 10/08/2026 09:39

Securing the gate without locking is a good idea OP. Have you ever come across a Cow Chain? Not sure thats its proper name, but basically a chain with a bigger circle and a T shape on the ends that you put through the circle to secure. We have them on our horse paddocks and it’s amazing how many people that haven’t come across them can’t work out how to open them! They’d definitely outsmart him if he's not thinking well and lost fine motor skills while being easy to use if you know how. Such a shame his family won't engage because they’d probably have better ideas about what would put him off.

LIZS · 10/08/2026 08:56

MerrilyMoving · 10/08/2026 08:47

Thanks, I have just ‘googled’.

It doesn’t help this situation though, I don’t think. Might be helpful for other things.
DM doesn’t consider herself vulnerable!

No i wouldn’t help here but worth doing nonetheless. DM is over 90 and doesn’t consider herself old or vulnerable!

are there any other neighbours who he is bothering or could keep an eye on her? Is he under a delusion that she is in his home somehow? Might be worth speaking to a dementia charity for their take on the situation and advice.

MerrilyMoving · 10/08/2026 08:47

LIZS · 10/08/2026 08:37

PSR is a database of those who may need more support if there is a power, communication or water outage. To deliver bottled water for example. It covers not only the elderly and households with children under 5 but those with health conditions, disabilities or otherwise vulnerable . The utility companies will have an online page to notify them.

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Thanks, I have just ‘googled’.

It doesn’t help this situation though, I don’t think. Might be helpful for other things.
DM doesn’t consider herself vulnerable!

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LIZS · 10/08/2026 08:37

MerrilyMoving · 10/08/2026 08:15

Thank you.

Your mother is vulnerable and needs protection, not just from him, but SS do need to be aware in case of emergency.

Do you mean protecting from his family too, when you say ‘not just from him’?

Is she also on the priority services register for her utilities? I would also advise you call AgeUK for help/advice.

I don’t know what ‘the priority services register for her utilities’ is. Can you tell me more and why this would be helpful?

PSR is a database of those who may need more support if there is a power, communication or water outage. To deliver bottled water for example. It covers not only the elderly and households with children under 5 but those with health conditions, disabilities or otherwise vulnerable . The utility companies will have an online page to notify them.

MerrilyMoving · 10/08/2026 08:15

unsync · 09/08/2026 22:39

Please don't do this. The man has dementia. Do any of you writing these kind of responses actually have experience with dementia and the effects of cognitive decline ?

And the OP's mother is an elderly lady, she needs safeguarding, not placing in a potentially harmful situation.

@MerrilyMoving Adult Social Services for both of them. The male neighbour needs a proper care assessment as he is wandering. This is hugely dangerous for him. His family should be ashamed of themselves blaming your mother. It's a total failure of care on their part.

Your mother is vulnerable and needs protection, not just from him, but SS do need to be aware in case of emergency. Is she also on the priority services register for her utilities? I would also advise you call AgeUK for help/advice.

Thank you.

Your mother is vulnerable and needs protection, not just from him, but SS do need to be aware in case of emergency.

Do you mean protecting from his family too, when you say ‘not just from him’?

Is she also on the priority services register for her utilities? I would also advise you call AgeUK for help/advice.

I don’t know what ‘the priority services register for her utilities’ is. Can you tell me more and why this would be helpful?

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unsync · 09/08/2026 22:39

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 09/08/2026 15:01

Could you encourage her to shout ‘Go Away, John!’, with her hand up like a stop sign? Or carry a bullhorn to blast at him?

And is there another neighbour she could ask for support? If I was aware of the situation, I’d drop everything to dash out and help when I heard the horn or saw him coming.

Please don't do this. The man has dementia. Do any of you writing these kind of responses actually have experience with dementia and the effects of cognitive decline ?

And the OP's mother is an elderly lady, she needs safeguarding, not placing in a potentially harmful situation.

@MerrilyMoving Adult Social Services for both of them. The male neighbour needs a proper care assessment as he is wandering. This is hugely dangerous for him. His family should be ashamed of themselves blaming your mother. It's a total failure of care on their part.

Your mother is vulnerable and needs protection, not just from him, but SS do need to be aware in case of emergency. Is she also on the priority services register for her utilities? I would also advise you call AgeUK for help/advice.

MerrilyMoving · 09/08/2026 21:49

Elsvieta · 09/08/2026 16:36

Well the padlock on side gate is a no-brainer - sort that straight away. But then it's a call to adult social care, definitely.

Well the padlock on side gate is a no-brainer

Except DM is locked in! The man with dementia is free to access all he wants.

As explained this limits her freedoms and other visitors and services that access her main entrance.

DM is reluctant for this to happen (though I think we will have to try this).

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Randomchat · 09/08/2026 19:04

My grandma was a nuisance to her neighbours when she had dementia. It was awful for everyone. But we always talked to them and listened and did our best to help them. We didn't ever make it their problem. I'm sorry your mum's neighbours aren't listening and acknowledging the problem. That's the least they could do.

I'm sorry this is happening to your mum.

MerrilyMoving · 09/08/2026 19:03

whowhatwerewhy · 09/08/2026 16:22

Could you put two handles on the gate , one that pushes down and one that pushes up . Similar to nursery/ reception class doors as he might not figure on how to work them .

Yes, I wondered about that.
Schools often just have a handle high up, obviously because children are small but this man is 6ft+. I wondered if a handle high up or just on the inside (metal gate) would be enough to confuse him.

Easier for DM not having to lock herself in.

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NoCommentingFromNowOn · 09/08/2026 18:46

I think you said you hadn’t seen this happen? Could you get ring camera/CCTV/whatever it’s called, but access the live footage from your phone? Then you have either a recording to show police or social services, or you can call the police yourself. When you dial 999 (because it will be an emergency) you just have to say ‘I’m calling from London but the emergency is in Leeds’ or whatever.

Ineffable23 · 09/08/2026 16:57

whowhatwerewhy · 09/08/2026 16:22

Could you put two handles on the gate , one that pushes down and one that pushes up . Similar to nursery/ reception class doors as he might not figure on how to work them .

Or the other thing lots of dementia wards do is do a code for the door, printed on a piece of paper inside a butterfly (no idea why it's always a butterfly) next to the door. So everyone who doesn't have dementia knows what the code is (so can deliver the post etc) while those with dementia can't get through.

Elsvieta · 09/08/2026 16:36

Well the padlock on side gate is a no-brainer - sort that straight away. But then it's a call to adult social care, definitely.

whowhatwerewhy · 09/08/2026 16:22

Could you put two handles on the gate , one that pushes down and one that pushes up . Similar to nursery/ reception class doors as he might not figure on how to work them .

Ineffable23 · 09/08/2026 16:11

I wonder if another idea would be to make a safeguarding report for your own mother. She's 85, and therefore very likely to be classed as a vulnerable adult, and being intimidated by a neighbour.

Until I saw your diagram, I hadn't appreciated re the gate that she would then have no way to receive post etc, so I do certainly see why she isn't a fan of that idea.

rookiemere · 09/08/2026 16:01

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 09/08/2026 15:01

Could you encourage her to shout ‘Go Away, John!’, with her hand up like a stop sign? Or carry a bullhorn to blast at him?

And is there another neighbour she could ask for support? If I was aware of the situation, I’d drop everything to dash out and help when I heard the horn or saw him coming.

I like the bullhorn idea !

MerrilyMoving · 09/08/2026 15:04

Nearly50omg · 09/08/2026 14:42

And why should she???? All this talk of fences and locks will make her even more scared!!! POLICE and senior officer and you go with her is only way forward. Less of the sympathy for the old bloke and more for your mum who is frightened in her own house and in her own garden and has been abused by the neighbours children!!!! Sod being nice and get angry on behalf of your mum!!! SHE is the priority to you NOT him!!! You are in work mode and need to be in how do I help my mum as a priority mode!!! Shouting at your mum for wanting to be safe in her own house??? NO not on! Police need to go and speak to them and tell them to lock THEIR doors for a start!!!!

I agree with the ‘why should she’ but there doesn’t seem to be another option. DM certainly doesn’t feel she should be the one locked in.

I am going to contact local Adult Social Care, when they open tomorrow. As I explained the police have logged it but are not prepared to act.

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PrizedPickledPopcorn · 09/08/2026 15:01

Could you encourage her to shout ‘Go Away, John!’, with her hand up like a stop sign? Or carry a bullhorn to blast at him?

And is there another neighbour she could ask for support? If I was aware of the situation, I’d drop everything to dash out and help when I heard the horn or saw him coming.