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GnomeDePlume · 16/06/2026 07:43

A new thread.

This is a place where anyone dealing with elderly parents/relatives/friends can rant, vent, scream into the void.

There is no judgement just understanding, support and good advice.

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MotherOfCatBoy · 22/08/2026 07:08

@BeMintFatball that’s a lot. You poor thing.
All I can suggest is, sleep on it and take care of yourself. Tomorrow is another day.

Eclipsing · 21/08/2026 23:52

@BeMintFatball , that's just awful. Hope you get some sleep tonight.

EagerQuail · 21/08/2026 22:25

BeMintFatball · 21/08/2026 22:16

Hi all, first off I am very drunk. As you know I went straight from seeing
my mother dead to traveling across the country to support my disabled daughter in her Duke of Edinburgh award.

well it hasn’t gone well. I don’t really understand what I have done that is so wrong ? I have not broken down crying in front of her or the group once . But it’s been made clear I am not wanted. My husband has come to collect
me. Leaving a crying Dd behind but I am some sort of witch evil mother and the organisers know better than my 23 years lived experience of handling DD. The place looks very institutional and Dd is asking is she going to be sectioned again.

Husband has had a cardiologist call him and basically he needs open heart surgery. Meanwhile I have a sobbing Dd on my phone. DH not reading the room that I can’t deal with his health right now but he tells me anyway. And I end up ugly cryIng in
hotel beer garden that I can’t lose him as well.

Honestly wish I wasn’t here but I have no will and the whole point is I want to secure DD2 future . Fml has never been more appropriate. Given a social worker a snotty message because she has not replied to a message I sent a week ago.

the care home wanted the room back and me and eldest Dd packing her belongings up in black bin bags with her dead in her bed barely cold is horrific to most people and we should not have been subjected to that.

so yeah , this week has been a lot . If you understood any of this well done . And if you didn’t, well I am very drunk.

ill loom in again when I’m sober. Goodnight all.

Be kind to yourself and don’t add tomorrow’s worries to today’s load
I Think I’ve also reached my mental load this week . I’m going to have tomorrow off and go again Sunday

ElderlyDilemmas · 21/08/2026 22:24

@BeMintFatball I’m so sorry, there is so much wrong there. We are here for support, come back when you are ready.

BeMintFatball · 21/08/2026 22:16

Hi all, first off I am very drunk. As you know I went straight from seeing
my mother dead to traveling across the country to support my disabled daughter in her Duke of Edinburgh award.

well it hasn’t gone well. I don’t really understand what I have done that is so wrong ? I have not broken down crying in front of her or the group once . But it’s been made clear I am not wanted. My husband has come to collect
me. Leaving a crying Dd behind but I am some sort of witch evil mother and the organisers know better than my 23 years lived experience of handling DD. The place looks very institutional and Dd is asking is she going to be sectioned again.

Husband has had a cardiologist call him and basically he needs open heart surgery. Meanwhile I have a sobbing Dd on my phone. DH not reading the room that I can’t deal with his health right now but he tells me anyway. And I end up ugly cryIng in
hotel beer garden that I can’t lose him as well.

Honestly wish I wasn’t here but I have no will and the whole point is I want to secure DD2 future . Fml has never been more appropriate. Given a social worker a snotty message because she has not replied to a message I sent a week ago.

the care home wanted the room back and me and eldest Dd packing her belongings up in black bin bags with her dead in her bed barely cold is horrific to most people and we should not have been subjected to that.

so yeah , this week has been a lot . If you understood any of this well done . And if you didn’t, well I am very drunk.

ill loom in again when I’m sober. Goodnight all.

Eclipsing · 21/08/2026 18:20

Compared with many of you I'm doing very little elder care, but I'm thinking and feeling a lot. I suppose I have it much easier as I don't think I'd cope physically or emotionally if I had to look after my mum!

Oh god, it's such a long story and try as I might I can't seem to shorten it for the telling.

My widowed mother is well into her 90s. Until pretty recently she looked a lot younger and was very active. But she's been ill, and she's lost her sight, and (of course) refuses to acknowledge that she needs any help. This has caused some very nasty rows where I have been painted as the most wicked daughter that ever lived for suggesting that she might consider a cleaner. She has told me that she doesn't want me to visit her again as she "gets so anxious" about my "disapproval" of her living circumstances. (In fact I get very upset by it, it's filthy. She's not a hoarder but the place stinks, as does she, and it's actually a health hazard).

So I'm sort of off the hook and that offers a degree of relief. After a very difficult relationship for most of my life we now get on fine on the phone as long as we keep things superficial. I live too far away to drop in, any visits have to be planned, accomomdation found etc (and it can cost a fortune as she lives in a holiday spot) so it's certainly easier, practically speaking, not to visit. My OH and DD don't want me to visit on my own again as it takes me weeks to recover my mental equilibrium when I do go.

My mother's not on her own. My sister lives close to her but they've fallen out too. I'm not close to my sister - my mother actively used to play us off against each other from being small children so we never formed a relationship, but we do text regularly about mum. But most worrying is that my brother lives WITH her. She sings his praises to us but he actually does very little and isn't able to do much more - he has moderately severe autism. diagnosed late, and she has kept him close over the years, infantilised and institutionalised him. He doesn't work, has no social life, and genuinely doesn't know how other people live. And until recently she has actively refused to let him learn how to do things in the house. He can't even use a tin opener!! Whilst he is nominally her carer, in fact she's really his, and the situation tips close to being abusive at times. (I think she may well be "on the spectrum" too. Sigh).

She disbelieves every suggestion I make - and I spent a professional lifetime working in healthcare with the elderly so I know how these situations go. That then causes more ill-feeling between us. So I've decided I will no longer make any suggestions or try to help directly, unless another emergency/crisis makes it unavoidable.

I don't like the idea I may never see my mother again in this lifetime but maybe it will be best this way; at least we get on when we chat on the phone. But the situation makes me unhappy.

Why do people want to push away their loved ones when they already have very little in life?

There's so much more I could say, these situations never develop overnight, do they? Just to add that she tells me she's determined to live to be 100 (and I really hope she doesn't in her current state).

Enormous kudos to all of you who are breaking your backs caring for stubborn unpleasant old folk.

EmotionalBlackmail · 21/08/2026 18:10

The Dressing Gown of Doom.
Never heard of it before but that’s very accurate!

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 21/08/2026 16:55

NDornotND · 21/08/2026 16:35

Yes, but he has a penis you see. This renders him above menial caring tasks, which are reserved for non-penis-havers, who are contractually obliged to put everyone else's wants and needs above their own.

It's always made me wonder how having a penis renders its owner entirely incapable of looking after children, doing housework, operating a washing machine and caring for elderly relatives.

Penis-Owners are also generally unwilling to let their wives have a day in bed when the wives are ill - somehow or other, the Penis-Owner announces they're even more ill, and they immediately don their Dressing Gown of Doom in order to prove their point.

Wankers. Literally.

NDornotND · 21/08/2026 16:35

EmotionalBlackmail · 21/08/2026 12:06

I’ve suggested “D”B covers the hospital appointment.

But he has a job and a family so there’s no way she could ask him to do it.

I don’t know what she thinks I spend my time doing with my own job and family!

Yes, but he has a penis you see. This renders him above menial caring tasks, which are reserved for non-penis-havers, who are contractually obliged to put everyone else's wants and needs above their own.

EmotionalBlackmail · 21/08/2026 12:06

I’ve suggested “D”B covers the hospital appointment.

But he has a job and a family so there’s no way she could ask him to do it.

I don’t know what she thinks I spend my time doing with my own job and family!

Sortingmyself · 21/08/2026 08:29

EmotionalBlackmail · 21/08/2026 07:09

I am nearly at the end of my tether. Phone call with “D”M where she went on about how important family is and tried to organise me into taking her to a hospital appointment she hasn’t even had the details for yet.

Meanwhile I’m almost on my knees with dealing with the school holidays (primary aged children) and full time job and having to pay a fortune for childcare and organise reciprocal play dates to cover it.

She never once asked how I am, how we’re managing, or how her grandchildren are.

Sounds bloody exhausting!

It's a perfect storm for you - kids, job, irritating elderly parent. 😑

I hope you've pushed back on the hospital appointment!

rookiemere · 21/08/2026 08:17

@EmotionalBlackmail sympathies. I can pin point exactly when DM lost her empathy which was quite a few years before physical symptoms set in. I still don’t know if it’s a natural old age thing or in her case if it was the start of her dementia showing, but it really hurts when it happens.

GnomeDePlume · 21/08/2026 07:29

@EagerQuail that is good, well done.

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GnomeDePlume · 21/08/2026 07:26

I am starting to suspect that my DM is going to live forever. My DGCs will be visiting her in their dotage.

But the reality is that DM's life hangs by a thread. She hasnt left her bed in many months, can do nothing at all for herself. Doesnt know who she is let alone who anyone else is.

I have said to DB that I dont want her to be given ABs again. I doubt he agrees. For him even this existence, not even a life, should be preserved.

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EagerQuail · 21/08/2026 07:20

MIL finally moved to her nursing dementia home yesterday. I feel such relief, it’s been such a long road to get from unsuitable home care to a permanent place. We now have the flat to clear which feels like one final push and we should get some of our lives back after previously having to spend every spare moment arranging care and admin and assessments for care

GnomeDePlume · 21/08/2026 07:15

@Eclipsing 💐because I think you probably need the support. Welcome to the thread nobody wants to be on.

Vent/rant away, there will be no judgement here. Probably a lot of nodding understanding.

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EmotionalBlackmail · 21/08/2026 07:09

I am nearly at the end of my tether. Phone call with “D”M where she went on about how important family is and tried to organise me into taking her to a hospital appointment she hasn’t even had the details for yet.

Meanwhile I’m almost on my knees with dealing with the school holidays (primary aged children) and full time job and having to pay a fortune for childcare and organise reciprocal play dates to cover it.

She never once asked how I am, how we’re managing, or how her grandchildren are.

ElderlyDilemmas · 20/08/2026 22:54

Welcome @Eclipsing these threads to tend to be somewhere people jump in and out in moments of stress/crisis/frustration so please feel free to just tell us what's on your mind. I use a different name here too for privacy reasons.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 20/08/2026 22:50

Welcome @Eclipsing , chat away whenever you feel comfortable.

Eclipsing · 20/08/2026 22:42

Hello everyone. I'm bookmarking, and NCed from other boards on MN. I could really do with a place to vent though I'm worried that other family members could be here, read and identify me. The fact that I don't know and can't ask if this might be the case says all you need to know about my family dynamics.

Anyway. I don't want to barge into the middle of other people's conversations so I'll prob follow for a wee bit and try to pluck up the courage to post.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 20/08/2026 22:31

To be fair, DM can afford whatever she wants so she's not going to be penny pinching. She has already started saying things like she doesn't want strangers in her house though, which is definitely going to make around the clock care complicated. And there is a non-negligible chance that she will outlive either DB or me or both of us as there is very little physically wrong with her (apart from eyesight, hearing and brain power) and both DB and I have serious health issues. If she would consider moving into a home at some future stage it would be a lot more secure for her, all we would need to do would be appoint someone (younger and healthier than us) to make sure the care home bill is paid in the event that we can't organise things. If she stays in her own home everything is will be hugely more complicated, lots of little time suckers like organising home maintenance or phoning the care agency if a carer fails to turn up.

ElderlyDilemmas · 20/08/2026 21:58

It’s huge isn’t it @bigdogpaws I reckon if you count all the time I spend on my parents admin it would amount to about half a day a week (including all the time spent in endless dialogue with mum because she fusses so much about it all). I don’t have to take her to appointments yet as she can walk to GP and pharmacy and isn’t under the hospital for anything (if she was she is capable of bussing there at the moment), but it will start to happen.

Choconuttolata · 20/08/2026 20:14

Yep, running two households is not just a few phonecalls and a bit of paperwork at all @bigdogpaws. But seeing as it is generally the wimmins doing it it is deemed of no importance as is the four hours spent today taking DF to another medical appointment.

bigdogpaws · 20/08/2026 16:44

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 20/08/2026 12:49

I had to control my face when my Mum blithely told a healthcare professional that she will never need to go into a home because she can just have people in to care for her in her own home. As though there is no admin whatsoever involved in that, in her mind she can afford it so it will happen.

It's interesting how easily everyone overlooks the admin and planning involved in these things. For nearly 2 years now I have been dealing with all Mum's household admin and finances (and not in the most efficient way, because she still has capacity and doesn't want to change to online methods etc), organising house maintenance/cleaning/gardening etc plus managing all her healthcare needs, making sure she has adequate clothes/toiletries etc. She and a lot of the extended family dismiss this as 'just a bit of paperwork and a few phone calls'.

Jennalong · 20/08/2026 15:36

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 20/08/2026 12:49

I had to control my face when my Mum blithely told a healthcare professional that she will never need to go into a home because she can just have people in to care for her in her own home. As though there is no admin whatsoever involved in that, in her mind she can afford it so it will happen.

As though there is no admin whatsoever involved in that, in her mind she can afford it so it will happen.

But is the affording it at today's prices ?
My mil thinks you should be able to get a cleaner in for 2 hours for around a tenner and that a gardener is happy to work for several hours for £25 !

She's 90 and hasn't caught up with today's prices so won't have them because they charge too much .