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Cockroach cafe - Spring to Summer 2026

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FiniteSagacity · 14/03/2026 23:18

New thread for us all to gather and have tea, cake and something from the stronger shelf as needed.

Keeping the cockroach name in honour of those who have graduated the thread in spite of the suggested thread names!

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MysterOfwomanY · 11/04/2026 18:28

@WhatHaveIFound oh I'm sorry. It's always hard on the people left behind when it's such a shock. Give yourself a bit of space if you can, in similar circumstances I found I would just forget stuff and my decision making was dire for a few days.

rookiemere · 11/04/2026 18:19

I am sorry for your loss @WhatHaveIFound.

user555999000 · 11/04/2026 18:15

WhatHaveIFound · 11/04/2026 15:04

I'm completely lost as my dear dad died yesterday.

Everything happened so quickly. At 11am he was settled and I was heading to London for an event, by 1.30pm his breathing had changed and I phoned my sister overseas to suggest she travelled home and at 3.30pm he died.

Almost 20 years with Parkinson's and he celebrated his birthday only one month ago.

So sorry for your loss @WhatHaveIFound

user555999000 · 11/04/2026 18:14

Sortingmyself · 09/04/2026 08:42

Just saying hi (different user name; have commented before on old threads with a different username) and to have a whinge.

Most 'special' occasions, I've made a thing of getting MIL and my DM/DF over for a meal. It's usually something like 11am till 4.30pm...try and get DC to stay too. The last times we did this was Xmas and Mothers Day.

Unlike previous years, DH and I, for Easter this year kind of decided we weren't going to do anything. The DC were off doing their own thing so we didn't plan a big lunch or anything...we did pop in and see my parents and helped DF with stuff he wanted doing in the garden so spent around 3 hours with them.

I popped in yesterday after work for a bit and the first thing DM said to me was 'I was disappointed not to have seen you over the bank holiday'...said with a sad smile and puppy dog eyes. She has a shocking memory (think dementia but she won't have tests) so it's likely she forgot she saw me but when I said 'but mum, we came on saturday and stayed for a while' she just scrunched her nose up at me and turned away briefly before pretending that she hadn't said anything. Now I know my DM, that nose scrunch and head turn was done because she was put out that she hadn't had an invite over the Easter period.

DF shook his head and rolled his eyes at me whilst I just said 'it's just never enough for you mum is it. Whatever I do is never enough'.

When I left she said 'it would be nice to see the kids...we don't see them much now...they can't be bothered with their boring grandparents anymore...' said with a tinkly laugh. I don't know how I stayed civil. Why would you make a comment like that?!! She's so used to reverting to emotional blackmail to get her own way and it's infuriating but because she has dementia, I have to just forget about it. (I did say to her though that 'you saw DS on saturday. and my kids have a life of their own mum. they'll come and see you when they want to; I'm not forcing them to'. I cried all the way home.

for the last 4.5 years, because of her medical incident (now bed/wheelchair/sofa bound and doubly incontinent) I have done ALL their life admin...sorted her coming out of hospital/care home...dealt with social services over the years, sorted her benefits, sorted her prescriptions, medical appointments, nappies, hoists, wheelchair, hearing aids, blue badge...you think of it, I've done/organised it. At the beginning I saw them 3 or 4 x week and now I've reduced to 2 x week and I'm fucking tired of it. Tired of trying to hold it together with work, my own health issues, menopause, kids with their mental health issues and Uni/work issue and whatever I do for her is never enough. It never has been.

The guilt I had in not arranging anything over easter high but I just ignored it and got on with what DH and I wanted to do and after her comment yesterday the guilt just vanished entirely. That realisation that no matter what I do will always be lacking because all she wants is for me to be glued to her so I can entertain all her waking moments because she's so fucking selfish and it's all about her.

There's no point saying anything to her because she won't remember she said anything (although I do have suspicions that she might remember certain stuff...) so I'm screaming into an abyss...Sorry that was so long but it's just scratching the surface. Similar to a lot of you so I don't feel so alone...

Every single word you have written here @Sortingmyself resonates. Hope you are ok.

FiniteSagacity · 11/04/2026 18:14

I’m so sorry @WhatHaveIFound 💐

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NDornotND · 11/04/2026 15:31

Condolences @WhatHaveIFound Flowers

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/04/2026 15:18

@WhatHaveIFound I'm so very sorry to hear that your dear father has died.
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BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 11/04/2026 15:10

I'm very sorry for your loss @WhatHaveIFound. Flowers

WhatHaveIFound · 11/04/2026 15:04

I'm completely lost as my dear dad died yesterday.

Everything happened so quickly. At 11am he was settled and I was heading to London for an event, by 1.30pm his breathing had changed and I phoned my sister overseas to suggest she travelled home and at 3.30pm he died.

Almost 20 years with Parkinson's and he celebrated his birthday only one month ago.

FiniteSagacity · 11/04/2026 14:16

@Sortingmyself glad you’re thinking of what you are willing to do. Often ‘it’s a marathon, not a sprint’ so we need to spend our energy judiciously.

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FiniteSagacity · 11/04/2026 14:14

@rookiemere oof - the risk of getting sucked in! - the saddest part is that the negativity means you’re less likely to call or visit where there’s no obligation!

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Sortingmyself · 11/04/2026 13:52

FiniteSagacity · 11/04/2026 11:32

Plumped cushions 💐 🫖 ☕️ 🍰 in welcome to those new to and returning to the cafe. Many thanks to the wonderful regulars who share their wise words, which are such a help. Maybe we need a motto ‘I am not responsible for other people’s happiness’ or ‘I have limits’.

@Sortingmyself I wanted to check in on you as I recognise that moment - when you suddenly realise the slow creep has become zero time when you are not ‘needed’ by someone and you just need to step back for your sanity. Then you get guilt tripped for doing so.

DH is being guilt tripped by DFIL over not visiting this Easter but DH had his hands full supporting me with our Dad’s funeral arrangements. DFIL is lovely and amazingly independent despite many health challenges, maybe he’s feeling his mortality a bit. I actually want to visit DFIL and have suggested we plan a longer visit but DH has very strong boundaries so he won’t reward the guilt trip with attention!

Thank you @FiniteSagacity that's kind of you. I'm sorry to hear about your DF 💐
Saw the parents today, as I usually do and it was 'business as usual'. No further comments other than I should stay longer as 'I'd only just got there' and 'I'd only been there for 5 minutes' 😬🙄 I just ignored and said 'see you in the week' but I think I might give myself a few days off and pop in and see them next Saturday and miss my usual 2nd visit on Wednesday. Just because I'm so tired of it all.
As I've heard so many times, I need my own oxygen mask first...😁

rookiemere · 11/04/2026 12:41

@FiniteSagacity it is sad when even those elderly people without dementia become demanding and unreasonable.

I had a phone call with one of DMs old friends yesterday, more of a family friend really, a lovely lady who is late 80s and living on her own. She was really angry with me because I hadn’t updated that DPs had gone into a care home. She is right and I should have let her know but the period leading up to it was frenetic and still ploughing through a lot of paperwork and visiting and other stuff, plus trying to catch a breath and actually live a normal life.

She was telling me how lonely she is ( never married no DCs) because one of her neighbours has moved away and said I needed to phone more often. I will do my best, and I think I am going to research any Age Concern support in her area, but the thing that shocked me was her total lack of interest for me or understanding of how much I have on my plate and how hard the last few months have been. I didn’t labour on it, but I did allude to it being a difficult period. Thankfully she lives far away or I could feel myself being sucked into the vortex of another elderly persons needs.

Unfortunately, I think it’s just a side effect of extreme old age where the need to survive overwhelms any other concerns.

FiniteSagacity · 11/04/2026 11:32

Plumped cushions 💐 🫖 ☕️ 🍰 in welcome to those new to and returning to the cafe. Many thanks to the wonderful regulars who share their wise words, which are such a help. Maybe we need a motto ‘I am not responsible for other people’s happiness’ or ‘I have limits’.

@Sortingmyself I wanted to check in on you as I recognise that moment - when you suddenly realise the slow creep has become zero time when you are not ‘needed’ by someone and you just need to step back for your sanity. Then you get guilt tripped for doing so.

DH is being guilt tripped by DFIL over not visiting this Easter but DH had his hands full supporting me with our Dad’s funeral arrangements. DFIL is lovely and amazingly independent despite many health challenges, maybe he’s feeling his mortality a bit. I actually want to visit DFIL and have suggested we plan a longer visit but DH has very strong boundaries so he won’t reward the guilt trip with attention!

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rookiemere · 10/04/2026 20:15

@TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne thank you so much for asking. It’s going well, it’s nice to have a bit of purpose and structure again as well as earning some money, and I walk in 2 days and cycle the other. I am really enjoying just being one of the team as I’ve always had professional roles before. It was tough going over the period when we moved DPs into the care home, but now I am glad I persevered.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 10/04/2026 18:54

How's your job going now @rookiemere?

funnelfan · 10/04/2026 17:34

StillNiceCardigan · 10/04/2026 16:54

Thanks for the support. DH has told MIL he won't see her till Sunday (hence the guilt tripping) so I'll chat to him over the weekend. The fact that I was completely horrified by the suggestion of MIL going back to her flat says a lot!

It’s a recurring nightmare for me (literally) in that my mum has discharged herself from the care home and has returned to her house. In the dream I’m bothered about whether the home will accept her back/keep her room for her. And arguing with her as she’s regained the power of speech and reason and she says she’s fine and there’s no reason to go back to the home.

I’m sure there’s plenty to unpack there about my psyche. 😁

StillNiceCardigan · 10/04/2026 16:54

Thanks for the support. DH has told MIL he won't see her till Sunday (hence the guilt tripping) so I'll chat to him over the weekend. The fact that I was completely horrified by the suggestion of MIL going back to her flat says a lot!

Mumbles12 · 10/04/2026 16:46

funnelfan · 10/04/2026 14:41

Can your DH pinpoint what exactly he feels guilty about? That may help him deal with it better. Eg his mums happiness is not and has never been his responsibility. He has ensured her safety and wellbeing by making sure she has the best care solution. The home has all the trained staff and equipment to deal with his parents’ needs, far better than he would ever be able to do if he lived with her 24 hours a day.

Wise words.

rookiemere · 10/04/2026 15:16

@TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOneis right. It’s not just about the elderly person. Their wants and needs are obviously important but it has to be sustainable for those providing the support and it sounds like the move is the right one in the circumstances.

funnelfan · 10/04/2026 14:41

StillNiceCardigan · 10/04/2026 14:12

Knowing DH @TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne he'll just torment himself with guilt but not actually do anything. I've said talk to the care home about her actual needs and involve BIL who doesn't care either way so long as he doesn't have to do anything.

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Can your DH pinpoint what exactly he feels guilty about? That may help him deal with it better. Eg his mums happiness is not and has never been his responsibility. He has ensured her safety and wellbeing by making sure she has the best care solution. The home has all the trained staff and equipment to deal with his parents’ needs, far better than he would ever be able to do if he lived with her 24 hours a day.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 10/04/2026 14:15

StillNiceCardigan · 10/04/2026 14:12

Knowing DH @TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne he'll just torment himself with guilt but not actually do anything. I've said talk to the care home about her actual needs and involve BIL who doesn't care either way so long as he doesn't have to do anything.

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Ah well, there's your solution.
You're right, it's been a nightmare for you for two years of misery.

At least your ILs are safe where they are now.
You must be exhausted.
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StillNiceCardigan · 10/04/2026 14:12

Knowing DH @TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne he'll just torment himself with guilt but not actually do anything. I've said talk to the care home about her actual needs and involve BIL who doesn't care either way so long as he doesn't have to do anything.

StillNiceCardigan · 10/04/2026 14:09

I agree completely @Choux she was miserable in her flat and now she's miserable in the care home. At least she's safe now. DH feels guilty about the fact that she's in there and worries about doing the best thing with her money. Sod that! The past couple of years have been awful and i'm glad not to be responsible for her wellbeing. FIL is in the care home too so the amount of money they are spending is huge but FIL is quite ill now so there's no guilt about him.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 10/04/2026 14:09

@StillNiceCardigan well if your husband wants to facilitate his mother's return to her home, he can do all the arranging, can't he.

You just step right back. So do nothing at all to help.

Or would he agree to telling her "sure, you can go home, mum" - and leaving her to arrange it?

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