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Struggling to cope with personality changes and parental dynamic

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rookiemere · 08/02/2026 11:21

Apologies in advance if this is long but I want to give as much detail as I can.

DPs are very elderly- DF92 and DM87. I am an only DC and live an hour away. Until 10 months ago they were doing “ok”. We would visit fortnightly and do things like change light bulbs and I would do a bit of light cleaning. DM has full attendance allowance because of macular degeneration and osteoporosis. DF has diabetes, crohns disease and memory loss. They steadfastly refused to get much in the way of adaptations such as walk in shower or a much needed cleaner.

10 months ago DM had a fall and has been more or less bedridden since. Her speech has become very poor - it was getting worse previously and I assume she has had a number of mini strokes. As we are in Scotland she gets free home carers 4 times a day. She uses a catheter now. I took her to the neurologist twice and he assumes she has some form of dementia. She is still fairly cognisant in lots of ways but now gets fixated over tiny things and has mostly lost her previously kindly personality and is very demanding and exacting about all the paperwork and things round the house she expects me to do.

DF is losing his memory but is absolutely adamant he wants to stay at home. Thankfully no longer driving so has a list of places he wants to go to when we come up. Not sure on his capacity to carry out daily tasks if DM or carers weren’t there to remind him. He has a district nurse giving him his insulin each day because he was forgetting to take it.

They shout at each other a lot now because DF struggles to understand DM and DF is effectively her carer. I have spoken to social services and the carers are meant to prepare the meals not DF but he won’t let them. I managed to persuade them to get a cleaner once a week so the house is not dreadful although neither she nor the carers appear to be on top of the out of date food in the fridge.

They have absolutely pots of money but fiercely resistant to spending it on care, although personally generous with us. I think they would be better off getting rid of the council carers and paying for longer sessions with a more consistent level of personnel or indeed a live in carer, but they won’t hear of it.

Anyway so far, so standard and I am a frequent visitor to the cockroach cafe where there are people dealing with much harder situations than me.

The issue is I have been having panic attacks around the visits. They need to be visited at least weekly to keep on top of things like paperwork and the fridge.DH has been amazing and has started doing most of them, but obviously I can’t abandon my DPs and DM likes to save up all her paperwork for when I come and then thrust it at me along with everything else that she wants done. There are no other friends or relatives who can help in any way. Yesterday I had just escaped but for various reasons DS had come up too and left the car I was returning with an oil light warning. Nothing terrible but I just have no emotional reserves at all and I absolutely lost it in the car to the point I frightened myself.

I have been to the GP and they gave me a choice of HRT or antidepressants. I went for the HRT as this is entirely situational. Basically I feel traumatised every time I see them - they decline slightly, DM is less like my actual DM, DM and DF shout more aggressively at each other and expect me to referee, I worry that they should be in a care home but won’t go - I just really struggle with it. I thought by now some sort of definitive crisis would have happened to force the issue, but no on they go. I feel like a horrible person for not coping with seeing them and wanting things to get worse.

I guess my question is what can I do about it? DH is adamant he will do most of the visits- he is worried about me and dare I say it a bit annoyed by my ongoing emotional distress. But as I say I can’t not go, they were ok DPs, DM especially but she is the one I find hardest now I think.

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RoastBanana · 20/02/2026 20:49

I found that the best way of dealing with the bank statement thing (I had very similar, she did not recognise normal monthly outgoings like council tax & I had to spend ages explaining them) was to move to online only statements - just say the bank phasing out paper statements, modern life, how annoying etc. Then if necessary you can show a statement on your phone, but you don’t have to go through the paper statements item by item each month, with unnecessary worry being caused.

rookiemere · 20/02/2026 20:18

@Obviouslynotallthere we’ve tried that, they’re not interested sadly. Not sure how it’s going to hold together for our planned two week holiday end May, but we’re a way off that yet and honestly I feel we have done everything we can to help with their situation so we’re allowed to enjoy our holidays.

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Obviouslynotallthere · 20/02/2026 19:46

You could discuss respite with them couch it as a break for them both. Twin room might be available

rookiemere · 20/02/2026 19:17

Thanks @GuiltFreedom I’ve actually been on HRT for a few months now, I think it’s helping a bit as in I am not as flat as I was.

I have been ok since the last visit- possibly because I haven’t been since Grin - it’s ok though no intransigent old people have been neglected as a result of this decision as DH has been doing the visits and only needs praise and thanks for this which I am happy to provide.
I have also started a new job 3 days a week, it’s fairly basic administrative work but it’s amazing to get out of the house and have a bit of purpose. DPs decline dovetailed with my work contract finishing so I think part of what I have been feeling was also attached to not working.

I will definitely keep autogenic therapy in my back pocket.

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GuiltFreedom · 20/02/2026 15:13

The HRT really helped. I was already making the best of it all, generally very positive so CBT didn't really seem to be a good fit.
Because I'd been in flight or fight so long, disproportionate reactions to things I'd normally take in my stride, I went for Autogenic therapy. Ten sessions, learn a bit more of the technique each time. The therapist was lovely, kind, supportive and it was just so nice to be asked 'how are you' and not have to give anything back.
I use the Autogenic training as a quick 'deep breathe' , sometimes a longer reset but the main thing was it gradually brought me down from running on longterm cortisol.
My therapist was based the South West, I think the website has details properly trained & qualified across the country.

rookiemere · 08/02/2026 21:29

Thank you @CrazyGoatLady I know you are having a very hard time at the moment. I am lucky because DS is self sufficient ( apart from using my car and not sorting out issues Hmm) and DH has the time to do more visits.

The really hard part that gets me every time is I still wait for DM to say thank you and appreciate what i am doing. So I organised her mobile hairdresser and made a point of mentioning her hair looked nice - no mental connection that it was me that organised it, just on to the next demand. Conversely DF has generally become a bit nicer since his mental decline, says thank you and he doesn’t want to be a burden ( whilst simultaneously refusing additional care and being a huge burden). That’s before he snaps and starts shouting at things or gets annoyed that I want to throw away out of date food.

Anyway I am going on now, and some really helpful tips - I am going to google box breathing.

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CrazyGoatLady · 08/02/2026 21:15

@rookiemere you are a carer because you are doing the work of caring, as am I, even though we don't live with or even near our olds. Caring isn't just hands on things, it's all the thinking you have to do and the multiple things you have to have in your head in between visits. The phone calls, paperwork, etc. The emotional labour. The dread too, and the guilt we often have to deal with because we no longer really have family relationships with them, we are caring and managing and it becomes a chore, a duty. Weirdly, the crises are easier to manage than the day to day grind, because at least in a crisis I can go into "work mode". Visits when DGM is home are more waiting for the crisis and knowing whatever you're doing won't really be enough to prevent it. The uncertainty of when it'll land and what it'll be this time is the difficult bit.

My post hospital/CH/home visit ritual is a hot shower with one of those aromatherapy steamers, a stiff drink, a cuddle with the dogs on the sofa, some chocolate and mindless TV. I'm AuDHD, routines help quell the post visit anxiety about what I might have forgotten/what the next phone call will have in store! If you need structure, then definitely build in those bits of time to breathe. Go to the shop and have some time to yourself, get a decent lunch while you're out and away from the biohazard fridge, grab your favourite coffee, put a podcast or music on while you eat. If I'm really feeling fed up, I go on YouTube and put Thomas Benjamin Wild's "I've no more fucks to give" on. Won't change my mood but at least I'll laugh!

rookiemere · 08/02/2026 20:58

@Octavia64 wine is always a good answer. It’s quite funny, I am a social drinker not really bothered about it, but I always have a bottle of my favourite cheap plonk rose in the fridge for the evening after parental visits.

@Holesintheground thinking about it, I think the visit was structured wrong. I usually do have a decompression routine afterwards and sit in a nice park for 15 minutes- even if it’s just in the car - down the road from them to eat my packed lunch. For various reasons- DS not warning me about the oil light, having the dog in the boot - this visit wasn’t designed to make that possible. I have become quite rigid in menopause and I guess controlling the structure of the visits helps me to feel on less of an out of a control train ride.

Gawd knows what I will be like when the actual crisis comes, as surely it must.

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PermanentTemporary · 08/02/2026 20:42

Another vote for post redirection. Only problem is that the PO will write to them to let them know it’s happening- which is of course right as far as it goes - but just to let you know that.

Also a vote for box breathing, I was doing it just last night. It really does help. A bit. I’d be going truly mad in your place.

Octavia64 · 08/02/2026 20:32

I was referred for CBT once.

the referral was rejected on the grounds that the things I was anxious about were real and were actually happening.

CBT is largely about controlling anxieties etc by comparing them with reality. If your reality is genuinely such that those anxieties are truly based in it CBT will not help.

i recommend wine.

thedevilinablackdress · 08/02/2026 20:29

A meditation app helped me maintain some of my sanity.
But so did realising that I can't do everything, can't change who DM is or the choices she made/makes.

Holesintheground · 08/02/2026 20:22

Think about things you can put in place like snacks in the car for emergencies (nuts, dried fruit maybe). Build things into your routine when you visit to help yourself - eg stop at the last nice supermarket before theirs and get a meal deal so you know you'll have easy food. If I'd done a long day at the parental house I would book a hotel for myself that night, rather than staying at theirs or driving straight home - so I knew I could have a few hours on my own to decompress, stare mindlessly at a TV and not have to do or say anything. I didn't tell them of course. Might not help for you but it did me.
I would push on the fridge issue as this ought to be something the carers could do if just binning out of date food. Can your DH pick it up with them?

PropertyD · 08/02/2026 20:03

I remember at the hospital when Mum was in after a uti. Age UK were in the corridors trying to help adult children like me trying to support their elderly parents.

She kept calling me a carer and twice I had to correct her and say I wasn’t and had a job, a husband at home and was just trying to help out. Looking back she was correct - I was a carer. Mum wanted me to be one and although she didn’t want to be a burden I found myself in the role.

PropertyD · 08/02/2026 19:57

I so feel for you. Parents with tons of money but want YOU to do things. In their muddled view they want you to do it. They can control you and make a big old fuss.

I ditto what others have said about the post. Get it directed to you. The letters will set your Mum off and things that should take 10 mins take hours. I used to be given a list of things to do with the sad face and the occasional crying if I didn’t do it within their timescales.

Very elderly parents can be incredibly selfish and self absorbed. Mum used to say to me if she couldnt get me to do things then who? Good that you have LPA. That makes a big difference.

unsync · 08/02/2026 19:43

It is such an awful thing to go through and so many of us too, with very little support from officialdom. Nothing prepares you for it. It's like jumping out of a plane with no parachute only to land on a never ending rollercoaster! At least we can all commiserate together.

For the panic attacks, look up box breathing technique - takes a while to get the hang of but it will calm you down and draw your focus inwards. Breath work is very good for calming the nervous system.

Good luck in the new job.

rookiemere · 08/02/2026 19:25

Thanks @CrazyGoatLadyand @unsync. I am already an enthusiastic member of the cockroach cafe and find it very supportive, but it does seem as if others are dealing with even more horrible situations than me ( at least I don’t have a ghastly sibling) with better equilibrium.

I am reluctant to join a real life carers group as I am reluctant to see myself as a carer, but yes it’s the grinding responsibility that never stops that brings me down. Sadly several friends are in a similar situation so we meet up and moan about our DPs which does help. It’s just sad that so many of us are in a similar situation and I can only see it getting worse.

I guess - thinking about yesterday- there were a few things going on the day that made it more complicated than normal, plus I hadn’t had lunch. I think I need to be more realistic for future visits about what I can do on the day I go,and bring along food that I can stuff down in the car or something. It’s just been a huge shock. I pride myself on being quite a level headed person and I have never had ongoing panic attacks before.

I am starting a new part time job next week and I am hoping that will provide some relief and a change of focus for me.

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CrazyGoatLady · 08/02/2026 18:40

@rookiemere I'm not sure CBT can help much when the issue is actually your circumstances, rather than your own cognitions and feelings being the issue. It's not supposed to be used to reconcile people to awful circumstances really. It's more for things like anxiety, OCD, etc, where there is a problem with things like perception of risk and perspective. Not sure that applies when your parents are declining in mental and physical health, won't accept help and want family to do everything they want to their exact standards, and you're dealing with ambiguous loss and anticipatory grief! I guess maybe if you're finding yourself ruminating a lot or catastrophising, perhaps it could be helpful though with that side. I tend to prefer the third wave cognitive therapies like Acceptance and Commitment therapy or compassion focused therapy, especially if you struggle with self compassion. Or transactional analysis if you find yourself caught up in drama triangles with family a lot. I used to use that as a tool in family therapy when that was a big part of my job (now moved up the greasy pole and don't do clinical work, but I do miss it sometimes).

Herbal remedy wise, I've had some success using melatonin and CBD at night when the thoughts are racing and I'm drowning in things to do and am tempted to stay awake and do them rather than rest. Also a good magnesium supplement and omega3. I've found a lot of supplements a tad pointless but those I really do notice if I don't take them for a bit.

unsync · 08/02/2026 18:39

@rookiemere The most useful thing I found was the support group. Speaking to people who have been where you are where you can unload everything with no judgement helps. Unless you've been there, you have no way of knowing how stressful and painful it is. I also do meditation with sound which is soothing.

I've done CBT, it won't help in a situation you are not in control of, but I guess it may help you react differently to the triggers. I'm not sure that herbal remedies are strong enough when your fight or flight response is in a constant state of readiness. I have had prescription medication for anxiety in a different situation. That does help. Also, go visit the Cockroach Cafe thread on here, lots of people going through the same or similar with their parents, everyone's just lovely and lots of helpful support.

I'm sorry to say that the situation usually resolves itself with some sort of catastrophic event which will force the solution. I'm sorry I can't be more optimistic, but it is grim. Your OH sounds lovely though, cherish that and find joy in the small stuff. 💐

rookiemere · 08/02/2026 17:23

Thank you for the additional responses. @unsync I have identified a nearby care home that recently opened. DH visited and we could get them on the list for intake mid March once a home assessment takes place - therein lies the rub as obviously DPs would need to consent to this. I also spoke to an agency about getting in full time home care if say DF had to go into hospital, but again of course their ability to provide this depends on what resources they have available. I am worried that there is an emergency that will require me to go live there for a period as I simply don’t think I can, although obviously I guess I would have to if needed.

I maybe used wrong term for DM she occasionally leaves her bed using her rollator thing so she isn’t bed bound as such, but spends most of her day in bed. Physically she doesn’t seem to have declined as much as you would expect in 10 months of minimal movement.

I think it’s DM who is covering up DFs behaviour/abilities and I don’t think he would cope for long on his own. It’s become a horrible codependent relationship that isn’t bringing much joy to anyone. I guess it’s sweet that they want to look after each other - or are canny enough to realise that each needs the other to stay at home - unfortunately I appear to be collateral damage in the process.

I was hoping that maybe somebody had good recommendations for herbal remedies or CBT, to help me cope better.

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Octavia64 · 08/02/2026 14:16

You need a break.

take it.

the panic attacks are telling you that you need a break.

unsync · 08/02/2026 14:14

Start looking for care homes before the need arises, although it sounds like that may be needed sooner rather than later. If your mother is bedridden, she should be hoisted when moved. Do you think your father may benefit from a respite break? This would probably force the issue of residential care, as he's probably covering up a lot of her behaviour.

You need to look after yourself. I recently found a carer support group which is extremely helpful with dealing with the anxiety that being in this situation causes.

CrazyGoatLady · 08/02/2026 14:12

Just want to send you a ton of empathy @rookiemere as it really is awful when they change so much and they can no longer even comprehend the demands they are placing and the toll it takes so they can have everything as they wish, or even that you have needs of your own at all. Hopefully getting the post redirected might reduce the saving things up. I'm glad your DH can help, and yes it is different due to less emotional investment for them. 💐

rookiemere · 08/02/2026 13:52

@catofglory that’s a great idea on the post redirection, thank you.

If I organised additional care they would refuse it and at the minute at least social
care are involved.

At the moment I believe they would both be deemed to have capacity so there’s a limit to what I can force on them.

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rookiemere · 08/02/2026 13:47

@catofglory I know a dementia diagnosis may not change things but DF has said previously that if a doctor told him he needed to go into a care home, he would. A dementia diagnosis would help with that.
A large part of the issue is that between the two of them they are just about functioning as one unit. DM tells me she has to remind him to go to the toilet, so if he was on his own I suspect it would become obvious quickly that he couldn’t cope. I don’t want to force him into a home until he’s ready, if it was just him or indeed just her it would be easier I think to get appropriate care in.

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catofglory · 08/02/2026 13:44

You don't need to contact every organisation, just complete a redirection form at the post office so all correspondence is automatically redirected to you. If something arrives that you want them to see, take it over when you go.

Annoying repetitive conversations with people with dementia are par for the course unfortunately.

But as you have POA you can make the decisions about what care they have, and you have access to their funds to pay for it. You don't need your father to agree. I didn't even ask my mother, I went ahead and organised it. The advantage of POA is that you don't have to watch them muddle along, you can step in and change what needs changing.