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FIL caught drink driving

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CrazyGoatLady · 27/12/2025 14:28

FIL (73) drove home from the pub on Christmas Eve, got pulled over for speeding and was over the limit. Said he'd barely had anything to drink, but his brother said he had 6 pints over around 4hrs so he must have been well over. It was about a 5 mile drive home, but on a stretch of A road that often has patrols on it. Fool!

We've had rows over it before and I've said if he ever did it with DC in the car I'd shop him myself. Nobody else was with him on this occasion.

FIL now wants us to help him pay for a good solicitor as he is going to opt for court to try and avoid a ban, as GMIL is very elderly, losing it a bit, and FIL is very involved with her care, he drives over to her house most days. I do not want to give him a penny, as he's been drink driving for years and I hate his attitude, nanny state, they just want your money, I'm a careful driver, it's fine, blah blah. DH is angry with him, but wavering for GMIL's sake.

If DH wants to help I can't stop him, but I don't want him using our joint/family funds to help him weasel his way out, and I feel like he should have thought of his elderly mother before getting in the car after 6 pints. Am I being mean here?

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SpinningaCompass · 27/12/2025 18:07

I would be livid if your DH wanted to throw away money to help him try to avoid a well deserved ban.

He knew exactly what he was doing and does it regularly. Pretty despicable, frankly. And he'll continue to do it if he gets away with it.

PyongyangKipperbang · 27/12/2025 18:03

People saying "oh you are as bad as you didnt report him!" well its not quite that simple.

Firstly the Op has explained that she has spoken to the police and they cant do anything without info on when and where he is doing it, which she doesnt have as they dont live nearby.

Secondly even with that information, its hit and miss whether anything happens. There was a guy at a pub I used to run who would get paralytic and drive home. Every single time I would report him saying he was over the limit, was at X location and would be driving to Y location and had drunk Z number of drinks over a 2 hours period. Oh and here is his full name and van reg. In 2.5 years of reporting him he was never once stopped. I kept doing it in the hope that if I reported it often enough it would flag up as an issue. But to my knowledge he still hasnt been caught.

Headstarttohappiness · 27/12/2025 18:00

SerendipityJane · 27/12/2025 17:44

In the first instance, he should review his home and car insurance policies which might include legal cover.

Even if you are guilty ?

He is innocent until proven guilty. MN is not a court!!
Everyone deserves legal representation if we are to call ourselves a civilised society. Everyone.
Having said that I hope he gets a long ban. Your DH needs to have a word with himself. Would he be feeling so conflicted if another person had been injured or worse? Good luck OP please stand your ground- I wouldn’t be giving a bloody inch on this one - this is social responsibility for public safety.

SerendipityJane · 27/12/2025 18:00

NextDG · 27/12/2025 17:52

Given what his insurance will cost if he is convicted but avoids a ban, it would be cheaper for him to travel everywhere by taxi.

I can guarantee that he will view insurance as an optional extra in his driving life.

Dawnintheageofaquariams · 27/12/2025 18:00

mondaytosunday · 27/12/2025 17:21

My friends DH talked his way out of a ban by saying his car was essential to his work (it wasn’t really and he should have been banned). He didn’t use a solicitor.

Points, insurance, speeding maybe.
You do not escape a drink driving ban, even if you are a troubled celebrity.
A local solicitor won't get you off.
Clarence fucking Darrow wouldn't get some old gimmer off.

Mariets · 27/12/2025 18:00

My friends husband lost his first wife when she was killed by a drunk driver on Christmas Eve while she was crossing the road. He probably didn't think either when he got behind the wheel after leaving the pub.
Your FiL deserves a fine and a ban and having a good lawyer shouldn't make any difference.

numbandexhausted · 27/12/2025 17:59

To start with drink driving/drug driving is an automatic disqualification, no ifs, no buts. If any solicitor tells him otherwise then run a mile. Years ago you could talk your way out of disqualification, my dad certainly did, but that’s not the case these days and the magistrates have to impose a disqualification. How long that ban is depends on how much he blew over as the sentencing guidelines differ depending on that.

He absolutely needs legal advice, if he’s blown high he’s at risk of custody and he needs legal advice to prevent this rather than worrying about a ban. The ban is inevitable and the quicker he gets that into his head the better. However, he will be entitled to see duty on the day at court, if you don’t want to pay you don’t have to it’s not your issue.

TheMorgenmuffel · 27/12/2025 17:58

He wouldn't get a penny off me and I would think very badly of my husband if he gave any.

I hope he loses his licence.

Cesarina · 27/12/2025 17:55

IIRC, if you get banned for drink-driving for more than 12 months, under certain circumstances you can opt to go on a rehabilitation course which can reduce your sentence by up to 25%.
The convicted driver pays for this him/herself.
I abhor drink-driving from the very depths of my being, but this is what the law says🤷🏻‍♀️

NextDG · 27/12/2025 17:52

Given what his insurance will cost if he is convicted but avoids a ban, it would be cheaper for him to travel everywhere by taxi.

User8008135 · 27/12/2025 17:52

Latteapparel · 27/12/2025 17:39

Get him off the roads now. My BIL is a fire fighter and you should see the amount of RTA’s he attends. He’s had to pull dead toddlers out of cars due to drunk drivers.
your FIL is a see you next Tuesday.

My friends a firefighter and said similar about pulling victims out of cars, he says that its so often more the drunks who survive and wipe out everyone in their path. Awful.

User8008135 · 27/12/2025 17:49

CrazyGoatLady · 27/12/2025 17:07

He's never done it when we have been physically present, as he may be reprehensible but he isn't stupid. So no, we have not had the opportunity to do anything about it. I wish we had. He brags about how many times he's got away with it, and I've said to his face I hope he gets caught and has the book thrown at him. And now he has, and I think he should face the consequences, not plead poor me I need to drive to my elderly mother, let me off.

Where will your dh stop if he does support him here? Sounds like FIL is an alcoholic who'll get straight back to doing it again. Is dh prepared to keep doing this?

Your FIL needs banning at the least.

If he's banned, do you think he'll drive anyway? Sadly, with what you've said he sounds like the type....

DancingFerret · 27/12/2025 17:48

Aweechai · 27/12/2025 17:42

Of course you shouldn’t help, drink driving is indefensible. However, shame on you if you have known about this for years and not reported him🥲!
it really pisses me off when people say they’ll report them if they do it with their children in the car…what about my children, and everyone else’s children?

RTFT.

The OP has already said she's talked to the police. Distance is the problem; FIL lives four hours away, and the police need to catch him in the act. Difficult to report if you don't live in the area.

SerendipityJane · 27/12/2025 17:44

In the first instance, he should review his home and car insurance policies which might include legal cover.

Even if you are guilty ?

Aweechai · 27/12/2025 17:42

Of course you shouldn’t help, drink driving is indefensible. However, shame on you if you have known about this for years and not reported him🥲!
it really pisses me off when people say they’ll report them if they do it with their children in the car…what about my children, and everyone else’s children?

Latteapparel · 27/12/2025 17:39

Get him off the roads now. My BIL is a fire fighter and you should see the amount of RTA’s he attends. He’s had to pull dead toddlers out of cars due to drunk drivers.
your FIL is a see you next Tuesday.

JustMyView13 · 27/12/2025 17:38

In the first instance, he should review his home and car insurance policies which might include legal cover.
If not, honestly, I’d tell him where to stick it. You warned him, and it sounds like he lied misrepresented the truth when asked how many.
He’s not mad at himself for doing it, he’s mad he got caught.

CrazyGoatLady · 27/12/2025 17:34

RenovationNightmare · 27/12/2025 16:12

I think that you should have reported him a long time ago, and I think you are unreasonable to only care about your children being in the car with him. What about other innocent drivers on the road or pedestrians?
Others could have been seriously injured. How would you feel if a drunk driver killed your family member and the drunk drivers family knew that they had driven drunk repeatedly and simply banned the driver from carrying their children.

Edited

As I've said to another poster who kept making this point, if I'd had the opportunity of knowing exactly when he was driving after drinking, I'd have shopped him gladly.

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outerspacepotato · 27/12/2025 17:33

Your money would go towards enabling him to drive drunk if you help him with a lawyer. You could be enabling him to maim or kill people. I'd rather set money on fire than give it to a shitty drunk driver who thinks he's above the law.

He brags about driving drunk. He's not about to stop and now he's on the police radar as a drunk driver.

Tell your husband giving his father money so he can continue to endager others on the road is not going to happen with joint funds.

Ban him from driving your kids anywhere.

shhblackbag · 27/12/2025 17:31

hoodiemassive · 27/12/2025 17:20

Honestly op, if my DH gave money to his Dad to help him get off a drink driving charge, I’d leave him.

Agree. I couldn't respect that.

shhblackbag · 27/12/2025 17:30

He could have killed someone. Selfish bastard.

MrsF111 · 27/12/2025 17:29

absolutely no money for the solicitor and I also would not be letting DC in the car with him driving whenever (if ever!) the ban is lifted.

SleafordSods · 27/12/2025 17:26

mondaytosunday · 27/12/2025 17:21

My friends DH talked his way out of a ban by saying his car was essential to his work (it wasn’t really and he should have been banned). He didn’t use a solicitor.

Was that for speeding, no insurance or drink driving?

mondaytosunday · 27/12/2025 17:21

My friends DH talked his way out of a ban by saying his car was essential to his work (it wasn’t really and he should have been banned). He didn’t use a solicitor.

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 27/12/2025 17:21

Waste of money.
DH's best friend is a solicitor, & he didn't even try to get himself off a DD !