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Help. Mum about to be discharged from hospital

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JoJothegerbil · 03/12/2025 18:57

Mum had a fall on Monday, one of several she has had, but this one resulted in an ambulance trip to A&E. She’s concussed, less confused than she was yesterday and has what they are terming ‘a stable fracture’ in her back. She also has osteoporosis, is a type 2 diabetic and a medicated schizophrenic. She’s been moved to a community hospital today but we have been told that they are keen to discharge her asap.

My brother and I, her NOK, do not feel it is safe for her to go back home. The only loo is upstairs with no way of adding a stairlift, she’s a hoarder so the house in unhygienic and she won’t address the hoard, and she clearly is not bathing or managing her personal hygiene. Up until now, she won’t accept carers.

How do we address this with the hospital? I’ve made my feelings clear with a senior nurse today and she’s noted it down. We have not been given an opportunity to speak to a Dr at all.

I cannot care for her as I am the main bread winner and work full time. I already do a lot; take her shopping, take her to every medical appointment etc but I’m nearly broken. I’m the person that the Lifeline call when she falls so I’m often called out. My brother lives 200 miles away.

We want to be sure that a care package is in place for as soon as she is home. She will need to self fund for a bit as she has around £35k in savings. Up until now she’s been very resistant to care; refusing help with bathing (won’t have a shower), incontinence issues etc but I think we need to force this on her. I’m just so worried she’ll be sent home; she’s very clever at saying ‘she’s fine’ and how she manages well, and I’ll be left to sort her out again. I can’t do it, my job is stressful and I don’t have the headspace. Selfishly maybe, but I also don’t want to be her carer.

Sorry this is long! Looking for any advice at all at how to navigate this.

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FizzPlease · 03/12/2025 19:45

From personal experience, advise that, as others have said it is an unsafe discharge, and your Mum needs a comprehensive care package and until that is established she needs to stay in hospital or transferred to a facility that can do a comprehensive assessment of need. It always helps to say you appreciate they need the bed, BUT sending her home would be unethical and unsafe, and keep repeating yourself. Do not assist in any way or facilitate an unsafe return home. If she has fractured her back, it will likely be agony, and she'll need strong pain meds administered and regularly. Not helpful I know, but talk of "a stable fracture" sounds nothing to see here, but it will be agonising and recovery, with osteoporosis will be slow, if at all.

As the PP above says, wants and needs are entirely different and if the professionals, including social work, get any hint of a supportive, caring family - they will punt her off without a backward glance, or pay lip service by their "maximum" of carers, 10 minutes a pop, 4 times per day - which won't cut it at all. The house being half in trust is a separate concern, and you can ask for a full financial assessment alongside to see what your Mum can realistically afford to contribute to her care.

Resist, at all costs, taking her home and do not bow to pressure. You will help your Mum far better being an advocate for her needs to be met in a comprehensive and thorough way.

It is a horrible path to walk. Best of luck and hope your Mum is OK.

OSTMusTisNT · 03/12/2025 19:45

Been through similar, whatever happens she must get a full care package in place before she returns home. If that doesn't happen, don't pick her up from the hospital.

Don't be persuaded to help out short term or you'll find after a week or so that the promised care package never materialises.

This is no fault of the NHS or Social Work but until we are all prepared to pay enough tax to pay decent carer wages, all the wonderful carers will continue to leave to earn more working in Aldi.

MissMoneyFairy · 03/12/2025 19:35

Just seen your post, who owns half the house in the trust.

MissMoneyFairy · 03/12/2025 19:33

Does she have capacity to make her own decision about where she wants to live, having carers, does anyone have poa. I'd try and speak to the therapists, would she benefit from inpatient rehab.is the fracture long standing. You need to step right back, tell the nurses there is no help at home, the house is unsafe, don't facilitate her going home, let the staff sort it all out.

JoJothegerbil · 03/12/2025 19:31

Thank you.

Social services have assessed in the past and put up grab rails, sorted a Lifeline out and gave her 10 weeks of decluttering support (it’s not helped as the hoard is back). The house is unsuitable and there is no space for a downstairs loo or bedroom. To complicate matters further it’s in a trust, set up 28 years ago by my Dad before he died aged 56. Mum owns half, and the other half is in trust.

We have POA for finance but not health. Terrible advice from the solicitor who said it wasn’t needed.

I can’t go to the hospital tomorrow as I have an investigative procedure at any hospital myself, but I will tell my brother he needs to keep stressing the ‘unsafe discharge’. The nurse we spoke to today said that they want to discharge them to home asap as patients do better at home than in a hospital setting. Which I’m sure is true if they have support in place.

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knackeredmumoftwo · 03/12/2025 19:27

Please also remember that hospitals treat the acute illness and your Mums ongoing care is not there responsibility - sounds harsh I know but if you understand their angle it makes navigating the rest more logical.

your Mum as above needs an urgent assessment by a social worker and a short term care package to support her safely at home - what that looks like will be up to her/ you and social services

good luck

LIZS · 03/12/2025 19:22

There should be social worker on the discharge team. Tell them it would be an unsafe discharge as there is noone to supervise her and her home is unsuitable. They might send a ot to assess it and make suggestions for adaptations but that sounds unlikely to work.

MrsLizzieDarcy · 03/12/2025 19:16

Ring her local social services adult social care helpdesk and explain that you feel this is an unsafe discharge and that she needs to have a social worker assigned to her as a matter of urgency. You can also speak to the nursing team at the hospital and repeat the unsafe discharge over and over. At best she needs an occupational therapy assessment at home before her return there. However it can be like pushing water uphill with a fork if she's deemed to have capacity.

thedevilinablackdress · 03/12/2025 19:10

This is useful
https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/health-wellbeing/health-services/leaving-hospital/

You need to ask speak to occupational therapy and physiotherapy people at the hospital who should be assessing her for discharge. They should liaise with social services if needed or you may need to directly - I'm in Scotland so things can work differently. Make sure you tell them everything, raise your safety concerns and be very clear and firm about what you will and won't do re. care and support.

Discharge from hospital: What support will I get | Age UK

No one enjoys having to stay in hospital. Find out more from Age UK about what support you will receive before being discharged from hospital.

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/health-wellbeing/health-services/leaving-hospital/

DemonsandMosquitoes · 03/12/2025 19:10

Needs now outweigh wants. Make it clear to the discharge team you will be stepping right back and doing nothing. And mean it. Cite carer breakdown. No more shopping, no more transporting her about.
What were her plans for coping as she aged?
Youre not the selfish one. The wants of someone at the end of life don’t trump those of others in the prime of theirs. Remember, today is likely the best she will ever be. Think longer term and use this opportunity to extract yourself. It’s not sustainable.

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