Old men and using the toilet ….?

Going from the op’s original post the problem seems to be when her dad and FIL get up to use toilet during the night which a lot of older people have to do (especially when alcohol is involved) so she wouldn’t be cleaning up after each visit to toilet during the day.
So this would at least alleviate the problem of the nightly visits where they’re getting up to use the toilet and save upstairs carpet
Agree it’s grim but it’s a way to go there’s no way I would have been asking my dad or fil to wear incontinence pads while visiting.

Same issue with my late father, it was too awkward for me to say anything so I just checked the toilet after him and cleaned up but was silently seething. He had a key to my home and if he was passing would call in to use the loo. I would get home from work to find puddles of pee all over the seat and pooling at the back of the toilet ffs. No way he couldn't have known he had done it. In the end I made an excuse and took the key off him. If he couldn't treat me and my home with respect he wasn't having access to it while I wasn't there. He didn't have mobility/healh issues or cognitive issues so there is no way he would not have known. I sound awful I know but I do wonder are most old men like this? I loved him but as far as this was concerned I just felt he was dirty and lazy. He didn't wash his hands either but I know that wasn't a result of him getting older as he was never a hand washer

It gets intolerable though, and very difficult to prevent smells. Incontinence pants is the way to go. I’m in my late seventies, Better start stocking up now!

I feel your pain we lived woth my partners mum for 18 months who is in her late 70s and the amount of times I had to clean poo and wee from the bathroom floor or the loo as she didn't quite make it. Its sadly just an age thing. I think all you can do os keep cleaning it up really.

Yes but OP would have to mop every time he went to the toilet which is probably a lot! Better to use water proof backed pads, of which a lot would be needed. What about downstairs and carpets? He probably wouldn’t wear incontinence pads so I’m afraid I’d be visiting him in his own house as I would dread him visiting mine!

But equally, why does OP have tje lovely task of cleaning down others urine??

Fair point but at least it could be washed down with disinfectant mop of a day and put away when family returns home
Better than having urine seeping into carpet

That doesn’t stop the trail from the bedroom to the bathroom! Plus unless the mat has waterproof backing, it’s useless. This is an old thread. Perhaps OP would let us know how she solved the problem. My solution would be to always visit them at their house!

With my dad I put a pedestal mat round the loo which caught most of it and it saved a lot of work, I could just throw them in the wash.

Yeah you're not wrong. It does require dexterity to safely open and close it.

It's true if they are just gonna pish all over your home it's not fair on anyone. They need to use continence products like pads or adult nappy type thing if they're that unable to control bladder.

But that's not Ops problem so yeah, politely decline their visits.

Especially if they knock it over or drop it!
I’m afraid short visits and no overnight stays is the answer!

It would need to be absorbent, though, otherwise there would be puddles.

Get these disposable mats

Also heard that shaving foam to clean around toilet area is really good for neutralising urine odour
How about putting down a transparent plastic runner from bedroom to bathroom to protect carpet area

Possibly the reason it's less of an issue in care homes is that the gentlemen aren't allowed to drink alcohol to the extent that they are drunk.

Advise them to sit due to the risk of injury if they suffer micturation syncope. It is common in older men especially if they get up in the night and have a stand up wee.

All men should sit unless using a urinal.

They could piss into a bottle. The ones you get that they call portable urinals. That would stop them getting up to the bathroom at night as they can just go into the container? Surely if your penis is fully inside it can't make any splashback? I guess if it fails then you've got a pissy bedroom too.

You need an enzyme pet pee cleaner, will get rid of the smell too

My MIL uses a pedestal mat and bath mat both are washed with laundry disinfectant daily and replaced. They aren’t super thick ones so wash and dry quickly, they always look pristine when I visit and there is no smell in the bathroom despite it being internal with no window.
The only carpet is also now on their stairs, the rest of the flooring is vinyl, she said it was for ease with their Labrador but I did wonder about the upstairs hall, their dog slept downstairs but FIL has mobility issues and also likes a tipple so I suspect he didn’t always make it to the bathroom.

Obviously removing carpets in your house for occasional visits wouldn’t be a good idea but I would definitely get mats and chuck them in the wash with some dettol laundry sanitiser and method bathroom spray smells lovely!

How are they leaving a trail, surely their clothes would absorb it, unless they’ve left it too long, and there’s a tsunami! That means they are sitting on settees and chairs with their urinated trousers. Either way it’s horrible and intolerable. They need to be made aware of how it affects the OP’s family, and wear pads, or not visit at all. Surely the fathers’ homes must be absolutely reeking of urine.

No sorry, there's no way I could cope with that. Missing the pan is one thing, trail from bedroom to toilet? Unless very cognitively impaired they know. Sorry they would need to stay elsewhere.

He doesn't know, he can't really feel it, see it or smell it. He'd be mortified if he did realise and in no way is doing this deliberately. This is us and old man thing, aging is hard and often embarrassing cut him some slack.

Surely it’s on their clothes too, so transferring urine to sofas etc ? I wouldn’t have them to say any more. What state are their houses, bedding etc in? Wouldn’t it be more dignified for them to use the male equivalent of Always “ discreet?”

Bathroom runner, specifically for their visits. Put it down when they come, wash it on 60 when they leave. Let them know exactly why. If no dementia, they should be embarrassed at leaving such a mess!

What I meant was prostate cancer is the no. 1 cancer in men and obviously, cancer in general is a big killer.