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Elderly mum needs a shoulder replacement and wants me to do her care afterwards but I’m not up to it

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Cardiganwearer · 06/11/2025 10:05

DM is 80. She fell on her shoulder and broke it in Feb 2023. The hospital just put her arm in a sling and hoped it would heal. It hasn’t at all, the bones are not near each other to be able to heal as far as I can understand. She is in terrible pain as you can imagine. She hoped to get away with injections as she did not want an operation with a GA as she has many other serious conditions (heart failure, stage 3 kidney disease, rheumatoid arthritis, unstable high blood pressure, under active thyroid) But yesterday she was told that injections might make her arm useless and the only thing to do is a total shoulder replacement.

She was widowed 4 years ago when my DF died. So lives alone now. When she first broke the arm she stayed with my DSis for 2 weeks broken by a weekend at her home with me staying with her. My sis was going crazy so I got meals on wheels and a fall alarm etc sorted so she could move back. She has now asked for me and my sister to look after her like we did after her original fall when she has the operation. But things are all different now. My sister has an ill teenager who is pretty much housebound and in no way could they cope with my M there again. DSis also cannot leave DN unless his dad is there and he works very long hours.

So that leaves me, effectively. She cannot come to my house (stairs, no downstairs loo, no spare bedroom) and we would all go crazy. We are me, DH and DD 17, doing A levels. DH has fragile mental and physical health and is massively affected by any stress and a very private person to boot. For all of our sakes, it is absolutely no go. I would also worry she would never leave!

So that leaves me pretty much moving in with her for however long. Our relationship is pretty dreadful although she is fairly oblivious. Everything is fine if you ignore it! I actually went LC with her in July 2024 because I couldn’t stand the belittling and nastiness anymore. She would shout at me if I suggested things to help (eg LPA, antidepressants for DF, pharmacy deliveries instead of walking miles to the chemist in all weathers) so I stopped trying to help and stepped right back. I actually had chronic pain in the skin on my arm and pelvic pain that has disappeared since going LC. She was massively affecting my health, both physical and mental. I have always been the scapegoat and my sis the favourite. This has extended to the grandchildren too. So when DF died and then my DSis was largely out of circulation, she took all her unhappiness out on me. This has been my role since I was 5 when DSis was born. The dumping ground, the emotional punchbag. M is repeating her own family patterns. She was also the oldest daughter with a favourite younger sister. She complains long and loud about this while seeing no parallels whatsoever.

The weekend I was with her, I felt I was disappearing, being erased. My personality, my interests are not acceptable to her. My DH and DD visited and I cried the whole time because I wanted to go home with them. (Completely involuntary, I am not a crier). DM would not help me with the children (I have another grown up DC) when I had life threatening post natal depression and in fact made things a lot worse. It’s lucky I’m still here. I had to have counselling to cope with her behaviour. She did childcare for my DSis of course!!

I feel weakened by the post natal depression which I had for about 6 years. It doesn’t take much at all to slide back into suicidal ideation. DH thinks doing her care would break me again.

I feel I would last a day max looking after her. And how long would it be? How long is a piece of string? Will all her other health problems? And then I’m Carer. Even if our relationship was perfect, I am not a nurse in anyway and have a repulsion of doing personal care.

So I’m going to have to tell her today, that I can’t. I’m willing to do cleaning, laundry, shopping, admin, sorting care but not the care itself. I feel very guilty as you can imagine. I feel I have been telling her by not going oh, I’ll look after you Mum! Whenever surgery has been mentioned. But no, it will need to be explicit clearly.

I don’t know what I want from writing this really. Some info about how your olds got on with a shoulder replacement. Some reassurance I’m not a monster for not wanting to do this? It’s so hard.

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clamshell24 · 06/11/2025 12:36

You don't have to do this. Social services and hospital won't push it on you if you make clear it's impossible: there is a discharge system for this. Flawed, but there. And reablement/rehab will be funded so she needs to use it. Good luck.

EmotionalBlackmail · 06/11/2025 12:34

In similar circumstances (hip rather than shoulder), mine had to go into a care home for a couple of weeks after surgery.

There are lots of people for whom having an elderly relative to stay for recuperation wouldn’t be practical, nor can they stay with them or do it by visiting.

The care home is a much better option as it’s 24/7 staffing, people who know how to care and assist, different people(!) making the meals.

catofglory · 06/11/2025 12:29

You need to ensure that both your mother and the hospital know you are not available for aftercare. It is very common for the elderly person to tell the hospital that family will do the care, and then the hospital don't arrange anything.

As others have said, do not give any explanations as to why you are not available. If you give reasons, people will try to find ways around them. Just keep stating that you aren't available.

Chazbots · 06/11/2025 12:27

My DM had this op and if she has a good as result as my DM had, it will be a good thing.

She definitely needs to make other arrangements. Caring means organising appropriate care sometimes, not killing yourself to do it personally.

I've been in this situation a few times and looking back, I should have insisted on outside help, rather than trying to muddle through, get overwhelmed and on a couple of occaisions, leaving abruptly, which was less than ideal.

SweetBaklava · 06/11/2025 12:22

Alongside both of my siblings, we cared for our elderly windowed parent after surgery and god it was hard work!!!! I couldn’t imagined doing it under the circumstances you find yourself in. It would be a hard ‘no’ from me. Be very boundaried and only commit to what you’re happy to do.

Roosch · 06/11/2025 12:20

Just tell her you can’t look after her.
If any hospital staff ask say the same.
Use your own health or your children as reasons - no one can argue with that.

You can recommend she has her operation or goes to a nursing home.

Changename12 · 06/11/2025 12:11

You are not an available. This is a critical time in your daughter’s life. As already said rehab or carers. My mother had 2 months rehab in an NHS hospital last year after a fall and a fractured hip.

StripedPillowcase · 06/11/2025 12:00

Is she one of those people who will defer to a refusal of it's from someone else? 'My Doctor says I'm not allowed to drive every day', 'My husband says I have to be at home to look after him and DC' ?
You can make it up, she doesn't need to know.

CandidOP · 06/11/2025 11:57

An aunt of mine researched local care homes as an after operation solution although in the end she decided against having it done. Maybe your mum would be more comfortable if you were able to do a bit of research and then take her to the most suitable home for a visit having worked out the costings. You must be very firm with both the Hospital and Social Services if they get involved that you are not able to care for her at all. Don't volunteer for even a day. It is tough but you will have to be firm - kinder for all involved if you are just upfront and have a solution to offer. You may find anyway that with no one at home she will qualify for a place in Rehab.

thedevilinablackdress · 06/11/2025 11:52

Stand your ground and tell everyone and anyone what you will and won't do. I get on ok with DM, but when she got it of hosp after an operation recently, I told everyone (the hospital discharge people, the OT, the physios, the post discharge team) that I would be there for a few days, then I would be there once a week to support housework and food shop. I'm not saying you should even do as much as that, but by standing form and biting back the guilt or urge to do more, care was put in place.

user5972308467 · 06/11/2025 11:47

My relatives care home regularly used to have people in to convalesce after a hip/knee replacement, so imagine that'd be possible if you have a look about. Might be easier than care at home for at least the first 2 or 3 weeks.

My very fit and strong 75yr old neighbour had their shoulder replaced, I’d say they were in a sling for three weeks or so and back to normal after 2/3 months.

tsmainsqueeze · 06/11/2025 11:42

Cardiganwearer · 06/11/2025 11:01

I am half an hour away and I drive. But not happily, I was late to driving and find it very hard and tiring. Going over everyday would take a toll just from the driving. I also don’t work (for pay, gosh I work otherwise) so from an official point of view I am thoroughly available. Truth is I’m holding up my DH, my two DDs (one hopefully off to uni, the other living away but chronically ill and needing A LOT of support, my DSis who is distraught about her DC and feeling her way through all the red tape, and my DM. At slight arms length due to the LC but really it has brought contact down to “normal” levels, we were enmeshed before. I’m just starting HRT too. It’s too much basically.

Do you know what ? - you don't have to justify anything about why you won't be your mothers carer ,good mother or bad .
She needs far more than one person can give ,her needs may go on for months totally impossible for you to do that every single day plus be on call through the night even if you were willing to do it.
I may be facing similar care duties in the future and i too am repulsed by the thought of personal care , i just don't think i can do it but i can do the practical jobs so don't feel guilty over that .
Spell out in advance to your mom that you alone cannot give what she wants and needs and that carers / temp nursing home etc are the likelihood and leave her to stew over it.
You have to think of yourself and your family in all this too.

DaisyChain505 · 06/11/2025 11:39

She has over 23k savings. She’s is more than in a comfortable position to pay for some temporary care after the op.

Stand up for yourself and tell her that it just isn’t on the cards for you to do it and you’ll be looking into private care for her.

Whereismyfleeceblanket · 06/11/2025 11:27

When she goes into hospital have a pre practiced speech ready for anyone who asks how your dm will manage at home.
I am unable to assist with any care upon dm's discharge..
Rinse and repeat...
The old boot is reaping what she sowed imo. I haven't seen dm since 2012...no surgery will change that.

Cardiganwearer · 06/11/2025 11:23

Thanks everyone. I just have to tell her now. She has some savings, but not much above the £23k I imagine. She gladly had carers to help with my dad when he was ill but is averse for herself. I get it. But I can’t do it. She is frightened of care homes. I get that too. She would move in with me or my sister in a heartbeat and think herself no trouble whatever. But everyone else would just move round her to make it look like that.

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Lottapianos · 06/11/2025 11:22

OP, I can relate to so much of what you wrote - the enmeshment, the demands, the coldness, the feeling that you don't really exist when you're around your mother. Please don't underestimate how harmful all of this is to your mental health. I get it, and it's truly miserable. You don't have to carry on taking it

You know that you are simply not in any position to provide her care. You need to be very clear with your mother - explain what you are prepared to do and then stick to your guns. She will not like it, and there may be rage and guilt trips but stand firm. You have your husband on your side. You do not have to do what your mother expects you to do

And be VERY clear with the hospital that neither you nor anyone in the family are in a position to care for her after discharge. They will expect you to do all of the caring unless you make that explicit

curious79 · 06/11/2025 11:18

You are not a monster by any account. You need to stand firm on what you know will be the very real impacts on you and your family if you don’t.

your mum will have to have / find an alternative

Cardiganwearer · 06/11/2025 11:14

Thank you everyone, you are really helping. My DH is very worried about me doing her care. He is still traumatised by me being so depressed. I was hardly on this planet, he had to take over everything and did fear for my life. My M’s response was well, you won’t kill yourself if you have to physically look after the children all the time so I’m not looking after them at all. No matter what I was suffering. Then she was furious I got a childminder so I could rest and start to recover. Never mind I was not giving the stimulation children need because I was shut down, I should have been looking after them myself, I wasn’t working!! The irony is she had PND with my sister and I have heard about it since I was very young. M doesn’t think she should keep anything back for children so I knew all their problems etc from a young age. I think it is a case of I suffered, why shouldn’t you? God why don’t I want to look after you mother?

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BadgernTheGarden · 06/11/2025 11:11

Explain to the hospital and see what they can offer, say you will not be able to look after her, you are too far away and have your own family. Try to get it sorted out in advance and then present it as THE solution, not open to discussion. The care homes can be really nice and I would have thought that was the best option if available.

DaisyChain505 · 06/11/2025 11:02

You need to prioritise your mental well being and family.

Is she financially able to pay for private in home care?

Cardiganwearer · 06/11/2025 11:01

I am half an hour away and I drive. But not happily, I was late to driving and find it very hard and tiring. Going over everyday would take a toll just from the driving. I also don’t work (for pay, gosh I work otherwise) so from an official point of view I am thoroughly available. Truth is I’m holding up my DH, my two DDs (one hopefully off to uni, the other living away but chronically ill and needing A LOT of support, my DSis who is distraught about her DC and feeling her way through all the red tape, and my DM. At slight arms length due to the LC but really it has brought contact down to “normal” levels, we were enmeshed before. I’m just starting HRT too. It’s too much basically.

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WinterBerry40 · 06/11/2025 10:58

As you,say you,can offer one day's care . Perhaps the first day , out of hospital , stay the night but pass care to paid carers coming in before the 2nd night ?
As you say you can do shopping and do her washing clothes , getting medicine etc but no more .

Chewbecca · 06/11/2025 10:57

It has to be rehab centre or carers at home. You can't do this without too much collateral damage.
Tbh, I would be surprised if a surgeon would operate particularly with the unstable BP so it may be a moot point anyway and you may be worrying for nothing. Cross the bridge when you come to it? If asked now, say 'there are lots of options to look into when the op date is set'?

zipadeedodah · 06/11/2025 10:55

You've done nothing to be guilty about. As others have said, there are things you can organise that will help her .

The main issue with care is that people say they don't want it/carers. Care is based on peoples needs though, not their wants. So if she needs carers she needs carers!

Glennponder · 06/11/2025 10:53

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