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If a parent goes into a care home will the LA come for some of the money from the sale of their house?

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Thebluespoon · 11/09/2025 09:01

Once the remaining partner (who is currently living in the house) dies?

I am not sure if I should have placed this thread in the Money matters section but thought there may be some people on here who have gone through this.

I am a bit confused following a meeting with my parents finanical advisor.

Mum has Alzheimer;'s, it's been 7 years since her diagnosis. She lives at home with my dad and between my dad, my sister and myself we have been helping to look after her. However, following an awful fall in June and subsequent hospital stay mum's dementia has progressed rapidly and she is now double incontinent and can only walk aided and even that is tricky. We now have private carers who come in 3 times a day.

We are hoping to keep mum at home for as long as possible but we are aware we are on borrowed time and there will come a point when the home carers are not enough and we will not be able to cope, at this point we will have no choice but to look into care homes.

Mum and dad have investments. Because of mum's recent change in circumstances Dad and I had a meeting with his financial advisor yesterday. My parents investments were changed after mum's diagnosis in 2018 and most of them are now in dad's name (all done under the financial advisor's advice). There is a fairly good chunk under mum's name but this wouldn't last too long if mum went into a care home tbh.

The financial advisor said as soon as mum's investments fall to below the £23,250 threshold the LA will step in and pay (obviously that will be after a full assessment).

Mum and dad own their own home and I know the LA can not force any sale of the house whilst dad is alive and resisding there but I was under the belief that if dad were to die or mum ran up a care bill which exceeded the amount she has in investments then the LA can take the remainding figure from the sale of the house (after dad passes away or if he were to die whilst mum is still in care). The financial advisor says this would not happen.

I am a bit confused as I hear constant stories of people in care homes having to sell their homes to pay for the fees or a large chunk taken out from the sale of a house once the remaining partner passes away and leaves the house empty.

Does anyone have any experience of this sort of issue?

Should also add that my dad's side of things are all in trusts, this was set up by their solicitor.

OP posts:
LupaMoonhowl · 12/09/2025 08:34

Perhaps let your father do the personal care rather than leaving it to you? And deal himself with the accountant rather than involving you in murky tax dodging?

justasking111 · 12/09/2025 08:27

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 12/09/2025 08:21

Yeah, you’re virtually a super hero for bullying a woman with a sick mother on the internet

your family must be very proud

Edited

You can't control what your parents do for themselves financially.

GhostLivesHere · 12/09/2025 08:25

I'm so sorry about your mum
Make sure you get support too

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 12/09/2025 08:21

WhatNextBanana · 12/09/2025 07:46

Insensitive to point out that someone else pays when you make plans to move money to avoid paying for parents own care when they can easily afford it, or factually correct. Too many people with lots of money wish to avoid paying their way snd letting the taxpayers pay will also denigrate people on benefits. The country cannot afford everyone moving money yo avoid paying fir their own care needs. I'll own my opinion because its what they are doing avoiding paying for mum.

Yeah, you’re virtually a super hero for bullying a woman with a sick mother on the internet

your family must be very proud

paranoidnamechanger · 12/09/2025 07:55

I do wonder OP what your opinion was when, back in 2018 after your mum was diagnosed with dementia, most of your parents investments were moved to your father’s ownership?

WhatNextBanana · 12/09/2025 07:46

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 12/09/2025 07:41

Slow handclap for your tone deaf insensitivity

pat on the back for you, what a marvellous person you are

Insensitive to point out that someone else pays when you make plans to move money to avoid paying for parents own care when they can easily afford it, or factually correct. Too many people with lots of money wish to avoid paying their way snd letting the taxpayers pay will also denigrate people on benefits. The country cannot afford everyone moving money yo avoid paying fir their own care needs. I'll own my opinion because its what they are doing avoiding paying for mum.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 12/09/2025 07:41

WhatNextBanana · 11/09/2025 22:50

Your own words

"My parents investments were changed after mum's diagnosis in 2018 and most of them are now in dad's name (all done under the financial advisor's advice). There is a fairly good chunk under mum's name but this wouldn't last too long if mum went into a care home tbh."

Moved investments into dads name so no care fees paid from her investments. Its legal tax avoidance. Now you want to avoid paying care costs for your mum going forward. Hence let someone else (poor taxoayers) pay for your mum. It is what it is. Own it, get advice and let others pay going forward.

Slow handclap for your tone deaf insensitivity

pat on the back for you, what a marvellous person you are

4catsaremylife · 12/09/2025 00:45

Thebluespoon · 11/09/2025 09:01

Once the remaining partner (who is currently living in the house) dies?

I am not sure if I should have placed this thread in the Money matters section but thought there may be some people on here who have gone through this.

I am a bit confused following a meeting with my parents finanical advisor.

Mum has Alzheimer;'s, it's been 7 years since her diagnosis. She lives at home with my dad and between my dad, my sister and myself we have been helping to look after her. However, following an awful fall in June and subsequent hospital stay mum's dementia has progressed rapidly and she is now double incontinent and can only walk aided and even that is tricky. We now have private carers who come in 3 times a day.

We are hoping to keep mum at home for as long as possible but we are aware we are on borrowed time and there will come a point when the home carers are not enough and we will not be able to cope, at this point we will have no choice but to look into care homes.

Mum and dad have investments. Because of mum's recent change in circumstances Dad and I had a meeting with his financial advisor yesterday. My parents investments were changed after mum's diagnosis in 2018 and most of them are now in dad's name (all done under the financial advisor's advice). There is a fairly good chunk under mum's name but this wouldn't last too long if mum went into a care home tbh.

The financial advisor said as soon as mum's investments fall to below the £23,250 threshold the LA will step in and pay (obviously that will be after a full assessment).

Mum and dad own their own home and I know the LA can not force any sale of the house whilst dad is alive and resisding there but I was under the belief that if dad were to die or mum ran up a care bill which exceeded the amount she has in investments then the LA can take the remainding figure from the sale of the house (after dad passes away or if he were to die whilst mum is still in care). The financial advisor says this would not happen.

I am a bit confused as I hear constant stories of people in care homes having to sell their homes to pay for the fees or a large chunk taken out from the sale of a house once the remaining partner passes away and leaves the house empty.

Does anyone have any experience of this sort of issue?

Should also add that my dad's side of things are all in trusts, this was set up by their solicitor.

My dad is self funding care and we had to sell his home as my mum predeceased him. However, the local authority can choose to ignore the property if a dependent spouse or carer is resident.
If they choose not to ignore it they can place a charge on the property to be settled after the resident dies. AGE UK are a brilliant resource as are Alzheimer's Soc.
www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/care/paying-for-care/

ScrollingLeaves · 11/09/2025 23:05

Mischance · 11/09/2025 20:24

Don't let these posters bug you. It is very clear that the financial shenanigans are nothing to do with you and emanate from your father and are his responsibility.
I am so sorry to hear of the toll all this has taken on you. When your mum goes into her home, do take some time for yourself ... you both deserve and need it.

Well said. Listen to this OP.

WhatNextBanana · 11/09/2025 22:50

Thebluespoon · 11/09/2025 20:05

That's exactly it, well done you for hitting the nail on the head, bravo.

Yes, I've spent the last 7 years caring for my mother, cleaning her up after she's soiled herself, crying my eyes out every time she looks at me blankly and asks who I am, slowly becoming more unwell because the stress has exacerbated my chronic health issues all because I can't wait to get my hands on my parents money. Yes, I'm hoping the tax payer (including my own DH) will foot the bill because I am so materialistic that I can't wait to get my hands on that money and buy buy buy.

How very perceptive of you.

Your own words

"My parents investments were changed after mum's diagnosis in 2018 and most of them are now in dad's name (all done under the financial advisor's advice). There is a fairly good chunk under mum's name but this wouldn't last too long if mum went into a care home tbh."

Moved investments into dads name so no care fees paid from her investments. Its legal tax avoidance. Now you want to avoid paying care costs for your mum going forward. Hence let someone else (poor taxoayers) pay for your mum. It is what it is. Own it, get advice and let others pay going forward.

Crikeyalmighty · 11/09/2025 22:31

@GingerPants blimey that’s a very sad story - what an absolute arse !! It’s why I also posted earlier about trusts, my friend is having a really torrid time now they actually need to access some money - and they used trusts . Not what they expected at all

GingerPants · 11/09/2025 21:02

You could tell your dad about my mum’s neighbour Edith whose financial advisor hid her money and who then fell, hit her head and broke a hip between the taxi and the front door. She was coming back from fenwicks where she had been buying two shades of Clarins foundation as she was between shades so mixed her own.

She went from hospital to a cheap care home and once she was in her son wouldn’t release any money to get her out. She was hauled around by untrained staff. There was not to do but daytime TV.

She spend her last months desperately trying to leave and drinking tea from chipped mugs. She died, miserable and her son got all her money and spent it all on an internet bride.

paranoidnamechanger · 11/09/2025 20:57

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/09/2025 20:43

Oh the irony of that two posts above, one after the other

aren’t some people total dicks on the internet?

OP didn’t do herself any favours in the wording of the thread title.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/09/2025 20:43

Oh the irony of that two posts above, one after the other

aren’t some people total dicks on the internet?

DiscoBob · 11/09/2025 20:39

Somersetbaker · 11/09/2025 12:49

Was it only yesterday that there was a thread about disabled people claiming PIP being workshy scroungers? Spending my taxes seems to be ok if the money goes to the well off but not if the poor benefit.

I do agree with your sentiment. But pip isn't a means tested benefit so when people go after PIP claimants they are literally just going after the disabled. You could be a multimillionaire and still claim PIP.

ParmaVioletTea · 11/09/2025 20:33

DiscoBob · 11/09/2025 10:14

Well I'd imagine they would as it's an asset. It wouldn't be fair for you to keep the money from the house while the taxpayer funds your mum's care.

This.

Mischance · 11/09/2025 20:24

Thebluespoon · 11/09/2025 20:05

That's exactly it, well done you for hitting the nail on the head, bravo.

Yes, I've spent the last 7 years caring for my mother, cleaning her up after she's soiled herself, crying my eyes out every time she looks at me blankly and asks who I am, slowly becoming more unwell because the stress has exacerbated my chronic health issues all because I can't wait to get my hands on my parents money. Yes, I'm hoping the tax payer (including my own DH) will foot the bill because I am so materialistic that I can't wait to get my hands on that money and buy buy buy.

How very perceptive of you.

Don't let these posters bug you. It is very clear that the financial shenanigans are nothing to do with you and emanate from your father and are his responsibility.
I am so sorry to hear of the toll all this has taken on you. When your mum goes into her home, do take some time for yourself ... you both deserve and need it.

RoverReturn · 11/09/2025 20:20

Mischance · 11/09/2025 20:15

The legal charge on the property would basically mean that when your father dies the LA can recoup money owed to them that was not paid because the house could not be sold while he had need of it as his main dwelling.

Not under current social care rules! They don't and can't put charges on houses where the spouse still lives there.

Mischance · 11/09/2025 20:20

I agree that it is very very unusual for an LA to relocate a settled older person when they can no longer financially top up.

Ihateboris · 11/09/2025 20:19

Mischance · 11/09/2025 20:18

Yes they are. CHC is a non-means tested health service funding stream and retirement or other pensions are irrelevant.

Thank you 😊

Mischance · 11/09/2025 20:18

Ihateboris · 11/09/2025 20:10

Apologies for hijacking the thread, but if someone is fully funded via CHC, are they still entitled to the state pension?

Yes they are. CHC is a non-means tested health service funding stream and retirement or other pensions are irrelevant.

Mischance · 11/09/2025 20:15

RoverReturn · 11/09/2025 18:35

This is not true. While OPs dad is living there the house is ignored. No charge will be put on it.

Edited

The legal charge on the property would basically mean that when your father dies the LA can recoup money owed to them that was not paid because the house could not be sold while he had need of it as his main dwelling.

Thebluespoon · 11/09/2025 20:11

catofglory · 11/09/2025 15:19

Obviously I don't know your mother's medical details. But dementia care - washing, dressing, continence care, help with eating, drinking and mobilisation - comes under social care, not nursing care. What you need is a dementia care home.

The last year of her life my mother was immobile, doubly incontinent, unable to feed, drink, wash or mobilise herself, and her dementia care home were able to deal with all of it.

Dementia care homes have a GP/nurse visiting regularly, but no on-site nurse. If your mother does have additional medical needs which require a nurse constantly present, you would need a dementia nursing home. They are few and far between. But from what you have said, that isn't necessary.

That's good to know. Thank you.

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Ihateboris · 11/09/2025 20:10

Apologies for hijacking the thread, but if someone is fully funded via CHC, are they still entitled to the state pension?

Thebluespoon · 11/09/2025 20:09

curlyLJ · 11/09/2025 14:58

OP, my mum is in a care home. She is self-funding after selling her house (not that she's particularly aware as she also has Alzheimer's 😔)
Anyway, she has enough money to fund 3 years in a very nice care home which is walking distance from my house. The care home said that if the time comes that the LA have you start finding her care, it is highly unlikely that they will move her from a place where she is comfortable and has resided for so long. They said they'd never seen that happen.

She gets a contribution to her care fees (about 10%) after an LA assessment, due to her care needs, but she doesn't qualify for full CHC, even though she's chair-bound and partially incontinent along with many other health issues including the dementia. It's very hard to get it fully funded on health grounds.

All that said, she's very happy in there and it has taken the pressure off me no end. I was so stressed because she was falling over multiple times a day and even though she had carers 3 times a day, I could not cope.

Good luck OP.

Thank you. It must be a relief to find somewhere so near. I hope we can do the same for mum.

She went into respite in April and the care home said much the same thing, they have never had to relocate a resident once the money runs out.

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