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Problem diamond ring

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BeMintFatball · 09/09/2025 01:33

My mother was given her mother’s diamond ring after her death. Nan died 47 years ago. .
Now my mother is very old and frail. We have spoken about her wishes for after her passing. She has singled out one niece that she would like the ring to be given to. However mum has several nieces and none of the others have been bequeathed anything.

I can already see this is going to be an absolute shit show. The others are going to feel hurt even if the reasons for the decision are explained.

For clarity the Will states that I inherit everything. The matter of the ring is verbal instruction from my mum not explicitly stated in the Will. I don’t want the ring. It holds no sentimental value for me.

Do you agree I point out to mum how unfair the others will see this. But then what happens to the ring? The only other surviving child of my grandmother is my Uncle. That would make sense it’s his mother’s ring we are talking about.

Personally I would like to sell the bloody thing and give the money to charity when the time comes. But that would also cause an uproar. My cousin asked my mother to show her the ring today. Awkward as she is not the niece that mum intends to bequeath the ring to.

I need to have a conversation with my mum. Knowing
my mum she won’t have the balls
to explain her wishes to the wider family and I will get the fall out.

The last few months I have had a basin of my mum saying one thing to me and another to my cousins. She’s been quite two faced and I’ve felt played.

Sorry that turned into a rant. What would
you do?

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Hummingbirdtree · 09/09/2025 08:39

SirStinkalot · 09/09/2025 04:12

I think I would just say to your mum that you don't agree with doing that. So if she wants to pass her ring on to a particular person, then she needs to do it herself while she's alive, or put it into her will. Otherwise you will do what you see fit with the ring if you inherit it.

That's what normally happens with inherited things!

Your mum doesn't actually have the right to force you into doing something that will cause so much bad feeling. You are allowed to say no.

Yes, I would ask your mother to give it to her niece now. Problem solved.

BeMintFatball · 09/09/2025 08:35

@bumbaloo you have got most of right. I am an only child.

Mother was the eldest of 3 DC. Her younger sister died 20 years ago and was the mother of the 3 eldest nieces. Had the younger sister still been alive Mum would have given the ring to her.

The youngest sibling is the uncle. His 2 children are the youngest niece and only nephew. They never knew Nan as she passed many years before they were born. Youngest niece and nephew are not part of the drama.

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FlumpyFlimp · 09/09/2025 08:16

My MIL is still alive but I am aware she has made some spiteful bequests in her will in order to divide and settle scores with daughter in laws in particular (although the solicitor advised otherwise). DH and his brother are executors and will have to smooth over as best they can and not hurt or offend as she intends.

It’s not in the will and it’s low value, I would humour your mother. Decide what to do after her passing. Is there a specific reason for that niece getting it? If so just explain what it is if you decide to pass it on.

If she has promised it to more than one person, just explain your mother was confused etc and suggest selling it and splitting the proceeds unless they come up with another solution.

IMO it’s pretty pointless leaving objects to nieces/nephews that they don’t want anyway and if they are not close. Unless it’s a small amount of cash I wouldn’t bother.

thedevilinablackdress · 09/09/2025 08:02

Eugh, the dramas I have seen over such things. I feel for you. In your circumstances I'd suggest either:
-If no-one else knows about her comment, keep the ring yourself for a while and decide what to do after some time has passed.

  • If more people do know, well that's fine it's her decision, not yours and you are not responsible for it, for what she does or says or thinks.
CeciliaDuckiePond · 09/09/2025 07:36

bumbaloo · 09/09/2025 07:34

The OP says there isn’t a whole lot of jewellery to share out

Which is why I said "or other small keepsake".

Hohofortherobbers · 09/09/2025 07:35

Agree, get her to do an informal letter of wishes, keep it in her jewellery box.

bumbaloo · 09/09/2025 07:34

CeciliaDuckiePond · 09/09/2025 07:24

I agree with this. Give each niece/nephew a piece of jewellery or other small keepsake.

The OP says there isn’t a whole lot of jewellery to share out

bumbaloo · 09/09/2025 07:33

So you are your mother’s ONLY surviving dc? And everything goes to you?

the nieces are your mother’s siblings dc yes?

your cousin who asked to see the ring is your uncle’s dd yes?

why would they feel entitled to anything. This is YOUR mother. She has left everything to YOU. Whatever verbal instruction she gave you as her only dc and the only beneficiary to her will is for you to carry out. No one else gets a say. If anyone complains just tell them to go have it out with her (which they can’t as she will be dead). Presumably there is no advantage to you to give it to your one niece so that’s evidence enough that she asked you to do this.

what she may have told other people is irrelevant as you are her dc and the only beneficiary.

farmlass · 09/09/2025 07:32

Relative of ours had written in will that expensive jewellery was to go to granddaughter.( her sons daughter )
but spent her life telling her daughter it would go to her .
Dishonest and a horrible thing to do .
At least you have the chance to chat to mum and possibly write down what she wants to happen .

TorroFerney · 09/09/2025 07:27

SirStinkalot · 09/09/2025 04:12

I think I would just say to your mum that you don't agree with doing that. So if she wants to pass her ring on to a particular person, then she needs to do it herself while she's alive, or put it into her will. Otherwise you will do what you see fit with the ring if you inherit it.

That's what normally happens with inherited things!

Your mum doesn't actually have the right to force you into doing something that will cause so much bad feeling. You are allowed to say no.

This is good advice. But also if your neices are disappointed because of something your mum has done that’s not your issue to solve. You are taking too much responsibility (typical when you have a difficult mother).

CeciliaDuckiePond · 09/09/2025 07:24

Dippythedino · 09/09/2025 01:54

If it's not mentioned in the will and nobody knows about her particular wishes, then I'd split the jewellery amongst the family. So at least each niece receives a piece of jewellery including the diamond ring.

You won't get much for reselling second hand jewellery particularly diamonds as they don't tend to hold their value. So you might as well give it to the niece it was intended for but also ensure that the others receive something as well.

Your mum will have passed by then and she nor anyone else need to know your inten.

I agree with this. Give each niece/nephew a piece of jewellery or other small keepsake.

DisplayPurposesOnly · 09/09/2025 07:23

She doesn't need to amend her will. She should do a letter of wishes (at home, no solicitor).

I don't see anything wrong with giving her niece the ring. But you could encourage her to identify other small personal items to go to other family members that could be included in her LoW.

parietal · 09/09/2025 07:18

Your mum can do a “letter of wishes” which sets out who should get the ring and any other sentimental things. It is not legally binding but does give you paperwork to show what she wants.

Jessbow · 09/09/2025 07:04

You legally inherit it, you dont particually want it

So you give it to your Uncle, the person you think should have it.Perhaps say that you think your mum thought Cousin Sarah would like it,but you'll leave that up to him

ShesTheAlbatross · 09/09/2025 06:57

Did she give any particular reason for it going to this niece - eg her own mother had wanted that, or this niece had always been particularly fond of the ring, or whatever?

If the will has everything going to you, then legally you can give the ring to whoever - it’s yours to give as a gift if you want. I think I’d just give the niece the ring. But I’d probably ask my mum “as you’ve said you’d like X to get the ring, is there anything specific you wanted to give your other nieces and nephew?”

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 09/09/2025 06:42

As the executor you follow the will. That’s it. You don’t have to give reasons as to why anyone has done anything. Let her bequeath whatever she wants to whomever she wants and any fall out is on your mum, not you and your mum will no longer be here to have to give explanations.

tougholdbirdy · 09/09/2025 06:37

Type out a letter of wishes staying who has the ring and get your mum to sign it. Ideally with a couple of witnesses. Not yourself though as you are a beneficiary of the will. Then it is in black and white.
tell your mum you can’t pass on the ring unless she does this.

BunnyRuddington · 09/09/2025 06:32

From recent experience I would keep an eye on the ring and anything else valuable, especially if a DCousin has alrwsdy been asking.

DeadsoulsAngel · 09/09/2025 05:06

BeMintFatball · 09/09/2025 05:02

@DeadsoulsAngel thats giving me Agatha Christie vibes but could work - provided nobody accuses me of coercion

😂 I love Agatha Christie but I was thinking more low key and less big reveal! More sort of a loving message to the whole family, maybe a few personal words to each person. Then a quick moment where she states she’s left everything to you, as is likely expected, but she does want dear niece to have the ring because…. Insert reason here?

BeMintFatball · 09/09/2025 05:02

@DeadsoulsAngel thats giving me Agatha Christie vibes but could work - provided nobody accuses me of coercion

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DeadsoulsAngel · 09/09/2025 04:56

Could your mum make a short video (with help of course), only to be played after her death, that expressed her wishes? She would be assured no one would see it until she’s gone but it would then be clear that this was not your decision at least?

BeMintFatball · 09/09/2025 04:53

I’m all for carrying out my mum’s wishes. I would like her to be open with the rest of the family and tell them what she has told me. But she really should give the others gifts too. There are 4 nieces and one nephew

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SirStinkalot · 09/09/2025 04:46

Of course people have the right to pass on their property as they choose. The problem is that OP's mum isn't doing this. She isn't giving it to her niece now, and she isn't leaving it to her niece in her will, or even telling her whole family her wishes publicly.

Instead, she's trying to make OP be the one to give the ring away after her death on the basis of a private (disputable) conversation. This is going to cause a shitshow for OP, particularly if she's been having other private conversations and telling more than one person that they'll be the one to get the ring. Which actually seems very likely, given that a different cousin has been asking to see the ring, and OP has already noticed that her mum has been saying one thing to her and another to her cousins.

backandforthup · 09/09/2025 04:27

Follow her wishes for goodness sake. Why can’t people let others do what they want with their property

NatWestPigFamily · 09/09/2025 04:20

It’s your mum’s ring and her wish to give it to the neice. She will have her reasons, you need to respect that. You don’t want it, so just give it to the niece. The other family will just have to get on with it. Or have the ring valued and give all the others the same value of money from your inheritance, but still give the neice the ring.