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End of life - hand hold and advice

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walledgarden6 · 28/08/2025 21:07

My poor dad was discharged from hospital two and a half weeks ago to receive end of life care at home with mum (what she wanted). He’s late 80s, has vascular dementia, was pretty frail and immobile already, fully incontinent, but had a big stroke early July and spent 6 weeks in hospital. He didn’t recover, lost the ability to speak or swallow and the decision was made to stop all meds and remove his feeding tube about 4 weeks ago. He was taking the odd sip of juice until a few days ago but now that has stopped. It’s so hard watching him slowly fade and waste away. I feel terribly guilty for wishing him gone but I do, I just don’t want him and mum to suffer any longer. I know that sadly lots of people have been in this position, does anyone have any words of advice, or comfort? Is there anything practical I can do? Mum and I have started to discuss and ageee vague funeral plans but I can’t bring myself to do much more than that. The care and support mum and dad have received has been amazing though; some people are just so incredibly kind.

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HappiestSleeping · 17/09/2025 23:04

walledgarden6 · 16/09/2025 21:36

@HappiestSleeping thanks for coming back and letting us know how you are. I’m sure everything feels so difficult right now. I don’t have anything helpful to say I’m afraid but just know there’s a tiny corner of the internet thinking about you and wishing you well.

You are right about all the admin that comes with someone dying. One of the things that’s really helped me through the past couple of weeks is the kindness of people - family friends colleagues and strangers alike. I’ve seen a really nice slice of humanity that I’ve never experienced before and I’m grateful for that. I hope you’ve experienced similar kindness.

Thank you. It is a strange thing how people going through similar in this tiny corner of the internet can be comforting. It's what this sort of site should be, and sometimes is about.

You said I might tell you all about her but I wouldn't know where to start. We didn't get together until late in life. We later found out we had been in many of the same places when we were younger, but fate didn't have us meet then. Possibly a good job as I was an idiot when I was younger and probably wouldn't have recognised the fabulous person she was. I can't get used to speaking in the past tense, it sucks. I don't think we ever had a cross word. We disagreed, but it was funny rather than angsty. We just clicked. I feel like a part of me is missing. She's everywhere I look, and I hate that I can't talk to her anymore. It's not stopping me of course, but it would be better if she could actually hear me. There are so many things I still want to tell her about how every single part of me is better because of her. Our main rule was that she was never wrong. Even if it wasn't me, it wasn't her either, whatever it was, and that worked fine. It made us laugh. Laughing is so important, although we didn't get to do much of that in the latter stages.

I could write for hours about every little thing, but I imagine you get the gist.

How are you doing?

walledgarden6 · 16/09/2025 21:36

HappiestSleeping · 15/09/2025 14:07

I am sorry to read of your loss. I haven't been able to read anything other than superficial things in the last few weeks.

I am doing OK thanks, starting to get to grips with my new reality. It totally sucks. I am wading through all the legal processes, all the shit to do when one least feels like doing anything.

As you say, it is very sad, but we have to take comfort that the departed are no longer suffering.

@HappiestSleeping thanks for coming back and letting us know how you are. I’m sure everything feels so difficult right now. I don’t have anything helpful to say I’m afraid but just know there’s a tiny corner of the internet thinking about you and wishing you well.

You are right about all the admin that comes with someone dying. One of the things that’s really helped me through the past couple of weeks is the kindness of people - family friends colleagues and strangers alike. I’ve seen a really nice slice of humanity that I’ve never experienced before and I’m grateful for that. I hope you’ve experienced similar kindness.

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HappiestSleeping · 15/09/2025 14:07

walledgarden6 · 30/08/2025 20:08

@HappiestSleepinghow are you doing?

I am sorry to read of your loss. I haven't been able to read anything other than superficial things in the last few weeks.

I am doing OK thanks, starting to get to grips with my new reality. It totally sucks. I am wading through all the legal processes, all the shit to do when one least feels like doing anything.

As you say, it is very sad, but we have to take comfort that the departed are no longer suffering.

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 03/09/2025 10:09

I'm so sorry for your loss. Hopefully when you look back you will find comfort in knowing he was peaceful and you were with him.

SockFluffInTheBath · 02/09/2025 21:12

I’m so sorry for your loss @walledgarden6 . I’m glad your dad was peaceful and you were able to be with him.

walledgarden6 · 02/09/2025 21:03

My lovely dad died this afternoon. It was peaceful at the end, his breathing slowed right down, took a few slow deep breaths and he slipped away. Just in case that’s useful for anyone reading this in future (I had no idea what to expect). The nurse did come and give him some meds. Mum and I were both with him and I’m sad but relieved it’s over and he’s not suffering any longer.

Thank you to everyone for your words of comfort and advice, I really appreciate it.

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IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 02/09/2025 19:30

My DM had meds for the rattle in her lungs, for agitation and for nausea. The prescription was delivered on Friday and she died on the Sunday without being given any of it. In fact it was when my cousin was gone to ask if it was time to do something to ease the rattle she opened her eyes and gasped and then was gone within half an hour so she never had the meds. I know they were available because my cousin had fetched them from the pharmacy herself as the home were short staffed.

SockFluffInTheBath · 02/09/2025 12:55

@walledgarden6 the last few days and hours are hard. I just sat by my lovely MIL for as long as I could, she was asleep but responded to our voices until the last few hours. The nurses can give your DF meds for the agitation if you wish, just to allow him calm and peace. Sending you love.

@HappiestSleeping I'm so sorry for your loss. Your line about ‘gin and the dog’ is true here, too. I hope your dog brings you peace and some smiles.

MysterOfwomanY · 02/09/2025 12:08

Worth asking the medics about meds to help with his agitation.
Don't worry about the end. I take it you've probably not been with someone when they died before? I found that I recognised (and accepted) what had happened on a very primeval level.
Dead people are still the people you knew, but now have a much, much smaller set of needs (to be treated with dignity - tbh that's really our need) and they are safe from suffering and grief.
I hope that your Dad will be well cared for as long as he needs it, and that you will have peace of mind that you did what you could for him. 💐

walledgarden6 · 02/09/2025 11:20

My dad is still hanging in there despite several nurses telling us over the past few days that the end is imminent. He’s mostly unconscious and peaceful but has agitated episodes which are distressing. Hardly slept. This is hard.

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walledgarden6 · 30/08/2025 20:08

@HappiestSleepinghow are you doing?

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walledgarden6 · 29/08/2025 19:53

OLDERME · 29/08/2025 18:05

I am so touched to read all of these messages. Someone very close has just been admitted to a hospice. They are looking after her so well. All her family are in attendance. I just want to cry my eyes out. She is young and has a young family. . It is just too, too hard.

I’m so sorry to hear that. You’re right it’s too too hard sometimes, especially so when there’s a young family involved. Heartbreaking. I hope you get to spend some time with them and get to tell them everything you want to say. Sending love and hugs to you.

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OLDERME · 29/08/2025 18:05

I am so touched to read all of these messages. Someone very close has just been admitted to a hospice. They are looking after her so well. All her family are in attendance. I just want to cry my eyes out. She is young and has a young family. . It is just too, too hard.

walledgarden6 · 29/08/2025 16:29

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 29/08/2025 12:52

I'm sorry for all of you who are in this terrible limbo right now. With my mum it was just over a year ago but so fresh I can even remember the clothes I wore each day and what she was wearing.

We sat and talked as though she was still able to join in the conversation and, like others, played music she loved. Although she was declining slowly she had been fading quickly in the last week and hadn't responded to anything for the past week. She was in a care home and the carers came in every 20 mins or so to say goodbye and to check whether we needed anything. It was very peaceful at the end.

I will say that I was scared of being with her at the end but it was peaceful and she was surrounded by love. While there was nothing practical I could do I felt an overwhelming need for her to have the blanket we gave her last Christmas. There were photos of the grandchildren and the dog and the words "Take this blanket, wrap it tight, a special hug from us Goodnight!" I needed her to have that around as she died. The matron herself searched the laundry room to bring it up to the bedroom so that she was wrapped up.

That’s so lovely and I am so glad it was peaceful and your mum was wrapped up in your love. I am also scared of ‘the end’ but I will be there if I can. He seems peaceful and comfortable and ready to go now. His dementia took him from us a while ago but he knew who we were and there were glimpses of him still. I miss that. Thank you for sharing your experience with your mum and I’m sorry for your loss

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walledgarden6 · 29/08/2025 16:23

TantrumsAndBalloons · 29/08/2025 13:00

I am sorry you are going through this
I went through the same thing with my mum in June, but we were not able to bring her home, we stayed in the hosptial with her for 6 days though
Once she stopped taking food and fluid, she slept for the most part although for a couple of days before she died, she did know we were there, and she recognised my son and my husband when they came to visit.
You will find he starts to sleep very deeply for most of the time over the next few days, we found it a comfort to still talk to her as if she could hear us
It was very peaceful when she passed, she hadnt woken up for the whole of the previous night and morning, not even when the nurses were moving her and she just took 2 deep breaths and that was it
I am so glad I was there but I have to say it was the week leading up to her death was probably the hardest thing I have ever done, it is excruciating and painful so please look after yourself at this time

Thank you for sharing your experience and sorry you’ve also been through such a tough time. He’s sleeping pretty consistently now and there’s not much response from him. It feels like the end is nearer. I just hope it’s peaceful and ideally when mum is holding his hand.

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walledgarden6 · 29/08/2025 13:02

HappiestSleeping · 29/08/2025 12:02

My beloved found the strength to let go this morning. It has been a horrible week, and a horrible few years, but she is not suffering any more. Although this end phase took us by surprise, she didn't suffer for as long as might have happened, so for that, I am thankful.

And the old add age of better to have loved and lost is also true. If I'd have known what would happen, I still would have spent every moment I could with her. She was the final piece to my puzzle, and life will be fairly awful without her. Time brings acceptance though, so with the help of gin, and the dog, we march onwards.

I’m thinking of you HS and I hope you have some support around you. Come back and tell us about your lovely wife, if it would help. I hope your life won’t be awful without her, given time, I’m sure she wouldn’t want that for you. Sending love and strength.

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TantrumsAndBalloons · 29/08/2025 13:00

I am sorry you are going through this
I went through the same thing with my mum in June, but we were not able to bring her home, we stayed in the hosptial with her for 6 days though
Once she stopped taking food and fluid, she slept for the most part although for a couple of days before she died, she did know we were there, and she recognised my son and my husband when they came to visit.
You will find he starts to sleep very deeply for most of the time over the next few days, we found it a comfort to still talk to her as if she could hear us
It was very peaceful when she passed, she hadnt woken up for the whole of the previous night and morning, not even when the nurses were moving her and she just took 2 deep breaths and that was it
I am so glad I was there but I have to say it was the week leading up to her death was probably the hardest thing I have ever done, it is excruciating and painful so please look after yourself at this time

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 29/08/2025 12:52

I'm sorry for all of you who are in this terrible limbo right now. With my mum it was just over a year ago but so fresh I can even remember the clothes I wore each day and what she was wearing.

We sat and talked as though she was still able to join in the conversation and, like others, played music she loved. Although she was declining slowly she had been fading quickly in the last week and hadn't responded to anything for the past week. She was in a care home and the carers came in every 20 mins or so to say goodbye and to check whether we needed anything. It was very peaceful at the end.

I will say that I was scared of being with her at the end but it was peaceful and she was surrounded by love. While there was nothing practical I could do I felt an overwhelming need for her to have the blanket we gave her last Christmas. There were photos of the grandchildren and the dog and the words "Take this blanket, wrap it tight, a special hug from us Goodnight!" I needed her to have that around as she died. The matron herself searched the laundry room to bring it up to the bedroom so that she was wrapped up.

HappiestSleeping · 29/08/2025 12:02

walledgarden6 · 29/08/2025 08:01

I’m so sorry, life can be unbearably cruel. I always try and find something to be grateful for or look for the positives in a situation but sometimes that seems impossible. I hope you are doing ok this morning.

My beloved found the strength to let go this morning. It has been a horrible week, and a horrible few years, but she is not suffering any more. Although this end phase took us by surprise, she didn't suffer for as long as might have happened, so for that, I am thankful.

And the old add age of better to have loved and lost is also true. If I'd have known what would happen, I still would have spent every moment I could with her. She was the final piece to my puzzle, and life will be fairly awful without her. Time brings acceptance though, so with the help of gin, and the dog, we march onwards.

Rocknrollstar · 29/08/2025 08:51

DD and I sat with my mother for the last week of her life. We had wonderful support from carers and palliative nurses at night. The day before she died all the family and her friends came to see her and sat with her in turn. We thought it was a privilege that we were able to be with her at the end and we were so pleased that she had signed a DNR and we were able to refuse to allow her to be taken to hospital. Dying at home is so much better.

walledgarden6 · 29/08/2025 08:11

Itsallovernow23 · 29/08/2025 04:50

Im so sorry. My dad just died at home. I was the only one to look after him but he liked that i slept in his bed with him so I was there 24/7 for hus last ten days. It was really hard the last couple of days when he actively dying but I played him music he ans mum used to like, brushed his hair, but cold flannels on his head, used a mouth gel and held his hand. He really wanted to die at home, and he got his wish. And the people you are looking after have you.

what a wonderful thing you did for your dad in his final days. I’m sorry for your loss, it sounds like you were very close and I hope you are doing ok? Sending hugs.

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walledgarden6 · 29/08/2025 08:07

Losingtheplot2016 · 29/08/2025 04:07

Just joining in. I went on holiday last week and mum was poorly. I knew she was getting worse this week, but today I got a call on the drive back home. I arrived at her home at 2 and she died at 10.30. My brother got here two hours later.
i have to admit that at 5pm today she was very agitated and I felt so frustrated with the uncertainty. She’s been ill and near to death many times in the last few years - but now I’m finding it a shock we are finally here and it’s been so quick.
Death is so like birth - it feels like it might go on forever but then suddenly it’s over and things will never be the same. I’ve found it easier this time as Im not looking after a parent at the same time as losing one
Lots of love to you xxx

I’m so sorry you’ve lost your mum. I hope it’s some comfort that you were able to be with her at the end. I went on holiday when dad was in hospital and was scared I’d get that call when a long flight away. I absolutely understand what you mean about a birth, I’m very conscious that it’ll just be over one moment and I’m a bit worried how we’ll react afterwards. Like a birth there’s no way to prepare is there? Hugs to you.

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walledgarden6 · 29/08/2025 08:01

HappiestSleeping · 29/08/2025 04:43

Big hugs. I don't think it matters how many times it has been near, it still shocks when the moment arrives.

My wife and I have known we would end up here for a long while, but the actual manifestation has been different to how either of us envisaged. And much faster. We were wondering whether she might be well enough to have a few days away last Thursday as she felt quite good, and now I'm here waiting for her to take her final breath.

And things will definitely never be the same. She changed my life for the better in ways I can't put into words. My final gift to her is to make sure she is as comfortable as possible at this point.

I’m so sorry, life can be unbearably cruel. I always try and find something to be grateful for or look for the positives in a situation but sometimes that seems impossible. I hope you are doing ok this morning.

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Itsallovernow23 · 29/08/2025 04:50

Im so sorry. My dad just died at home. I was the only one to look after him but he liked that i slept in his bed with him so I was there 24/7 for hus last ten days. It was really hard the last couple of days when he actively dying but I played him music he ans mum used to like, brushed his hair, but cold flannels on his head, used a mouth gel and held his hand. He really wanted to die at home, and he got his wish. And the people you are looking after have you.

HappiestSleeping · 29/08/2025 04:43

Losingtheplot2016 · 29/08/2025 04:07

Just joining in. I went on holiday last week and mum was poorly. I knew she was getting worse this week, but today I got a call on the drive back home. I arrived at her home at 2 and she died at 10.30. My brother got here two hours later.
i have to admit that at 5pm today she was very agitated and I felt so frustrated with the uncertainty. She’s been ill and near to death many times in the last few years - but now I’m finding it a shock we are finally here and it’s been so quick.
Death is so like birth - it feels like it might go on forever but then suddenly it’s over and things will never be the same. I’ve found it easier this time as Im not looking after a parent at the same time as losing one
Lots of love to you xxx

Big hugs. I don't think it matters how many times it has been near, it still shocks when the moment arrives.

My wife and I have known we would end up here for a long while, but the actual manifestation has been different to how either of us envisaged. And much faster. We were wondering whether she might be well enough to have a few days away last Thursday as she felt quite good, and now I'm here waiting for her to take her final breath.

And things will definitely never be the same. She changed my life for the better in ways I can't put into words. My final gift to her is to make sure she is as comfortable as possible at this point.

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