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But you’re my carer!

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Dormit · 17/08/2025 17:47

How do you respond to this? I’m just back off holiday and my mum has asked me to go up (a 30 min walk uphill-I don’t drive) to make her a cup of tea because she’s upset and a bit shakey. When I said no, I got the but you’re my carer retort as though that means drop everything and do what she wants. She’s quite capable of making a cup of tea and food. Hospital has just discharged her and deemed her medically fit and safe and she’s just been on holiday. I’ve explained I’m cooking dinner for my children and can’t get up for a couple of hours. I’ve not had lunch yet today due to being on the phone with her and the hospital and messaging family who have only given me grief. I’ve just come back off a week holiday and feel like I wasn’t supposed to have any time off. Family are saying I shouldn’t take any money for what I do for her (£2 an hour). I’m her official carer and barely get time to eat lunch on days I am there (4-6 days depending) and yet family (who do fuck all) are saying it’s only what any daughter would do. I put in around 40 hours a week and am on call constantly. I do her shopping, gardening, cleaning, cooking, banking and all admin, hospital and GP appointments, transport booking, holiday booking, gift and card buying, DIY, liaising with all professionals and lots and lots of emotional support. I was exhausted and needed that week away and have come back to being told by family that I abandoned her. I organised carers to be there in the days that I wasn’t and she told me she wouldn’t need carers today so I cancelled them. I’m so pissed off.

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Cinaferna · 18/08/2025 14:58

moondune · 18/08/2025 14:22

Your problem is you've chosen to make it your 'job' by accepting money for it. Only you can decide if it's worth it. Accepting money has made it very easy for your siblings to absolve themselves of any responsibility.

It's not right, obviously, but nothing will change if you don't change things.

Except that it is illegal to employ anyone at less than NMW which is £12.21h. So OP should be getting £488.40pw from family for her work, not £80. And she should have 5 weeks holiday a year. Paid.

TeamBuffalo · 18/08/2025 14:37

I'd stop doing any of it if I were you. Tell your mum to advertise the post.

moondune · 18/08/2025 14:22

Your problem is you've chosen to make it your 'job' by accepting money for it. Only you can decide if it's worth it. Accepting money has made it very easy for your siblings to absolve themselves of any responsibility.

It's not right, obviously, but nothing will change if you don't change things.

Cinaferna · 18/08/2025 14:06

This is one of the few situations where I'd have no guilt at all telling a white lie. I'd say that you have a medical issue that is getting worse and due to this you have to step down as her carer.

The medical issue is your stress/anxiety/potential depression if you continue to be treated like the family's own Cinderella.

You do not have to explain it to anyone or justify the decision. But you do need to make the decision to stop and not then go back on it. Say you will visit once a week as a daughter but can't promise more than that, and that practical and strenuous regular care needs to be shared among other family members from now on or sourced from outside the family.

Dormit · 18/08/2025 13:56

My sister has told mum in no uncertain terms they she can’t go anything to help. She’s lucky to get a weekly visit. Sometimes it’s 3 weekly or once a fortnight or whenever she can fit her in. My brothers live too far away to be of much practical use and visit once a year but phone weekly in the case of the younger one, and every other day in the case of the older one. My sister used to clean and help her MIL and she was her priority until she died. The MIL had 3 DILs and sons so why my sister did it I’ve no idea.
DD gets her GCSE results this week and that’s my priority for Thursday.

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PropertyD · 18/08/2025 13:35

Campingisnexttogodliness · 17/08/2025 18:40

Buy dm a calendar.. Add in every third day as you helping. Add in 2 siblings the other days.
Not your fault if they don't turn up. Let dm nag them.

How familiar! The siblings will come up with all sorts of worthy reasons why they cannot do! Been there and got the t-shirt!

Dormit · 18/08/2025 13:35

SS are going to call her today. I’ve told them she’s become increasingly needy and that it’s killing me. I’m her PA, nurse, carer, confidante, friend, cleaner, gardener, cook, shopper, general dogsbody and I can’t do it at this level. She wants someone to make her breakfast but she’s quite capable of doing that. She’s managed this morning so can do it. She’s made a hot drink and got dressed so I don’t think she will qualify for ss input in terms of a carer.

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thebigyearahead · 18/08/2025 13:34

Campingisnexttogodliness · 17/08/2025 18:40

Buy dm a calendar.. Add in every third day as you helping. Add in 2 siblings the other days.
Not your fault if they don't turn up. Let dm nag them.

This is a very good idea.

Unicorn34 · 18/08/2025 13:21

I haven't read through the responses, sorry but I may duplicate what someone else has said but..... I am really sorry you are having this burden put onto you. I work in Social Care and see this happening every day.

All I can suggest is that you arrange for a Social Care assessment to be done, you can request this online usually. Your mum could be entitled to a care package at home (hopefully AM, lunch and PM at least) which would give you some respite. She may only need to contribute a little to this if she is under threshold too. Unsure what this is in your area.

Your mum is able to do some things for herself still and should be encouraged to do so, it will ensure she stays independent for longer. You dropping everything and running will only decrease her ability to care for herself, so you will be doing her a favour in the long run. She is asking you to do it as you are the easiest to manipulate, so you can only change the way in which you react - you cannot change her or your family members unfortunately.

Start to say No, firmly and calmly. The more you do it, the more easy it becomes. Try it when you are at home on your own, practice it through the day, tell people in your home that you are practicing and let them join in and support you! Honestly, you will be at high risk of carer breakdown/burnout if you don't, and then who will step up to help your mum?

Take care, sending a virtual hug. Its OK to say no, especially if there is an arrangement with an agency for three visits a day set up which will need to still be paid for if she turns them away.

Stoufer · 18/08/2025 13:18

I can’t remember how many hours you said you were doing per week, but if you are only getting £2 per hour, then if you were to even just do those hours in a NMW job, you would be getting an extra £10.21 an hour. So if you are doing 40 hours per week for your mum that is approx £408 per week in additional wages (pre-tax) that you are missing out on. So for a month, that is £1632 (pre-tax) additional wages that you are missing out on. Or look at it another way, that you are ‘giving’ your Mum. Can you afford to ‘give’ (subsidise) your Mum £1632 a month??? If you had that extra £1632 per month, what would you do with it? I imagine a good proportion would be building up savings / pension pot for your future.

Getting a social care assessment may make your mum actually face what things she can actually do herself - as she will have to justify it to an independent person - the assessor. She will never probably admit these things if it is just to you (as she wants to have your attention / help, as she is lonely). They will essentially come up with a recommendation about what care your Mum needs. Maybe it will be a care visit once a day, to provide support with a hot meal at lunch time (and maybe making a sandwich tea that your Mum can have at tea time)? Maybe also making a hot drink in a sipper flask that your Mum can drink throughout the afternoon?

It may work out cheaper for your Mum to then also have a cleaner (they can come once or twice a week, whatever your Mum prefers), and a gardener, rather than relying on carers to do household tasks (if she would rather have the carers focus on meals for her).

There are also charities that can allot a certain number of hours for a person needing care, and someone can come over for a couple of hours to keep them company, or take them out.

It will actually be better for her as well, in the long run, to outsource the ‘daily grind’ parts of her care to a paid carer / agency, whether that is paid for or subsidised by the council, or she pays for it herself. Ultimately, it will avoid family members (especially you) having ‘care fatigue’ and withdrawing from her substantially / or having a poor relationship with her, and it would mean that instead of using your precious hours to do the housework / gardening / cooking etc then you could devote the 4 hours that you would have spend on the garden actually taking her out to a garden centre for lunch, of to the local stately home / gardens, or taking her to a local social group / drop-in sessions, or even just sitting with her chatting and having a cup of tea / doing a jigsaw or whatever.

If she can face up to keeping whatever independence she can get - and doing / planning things strategically to get more efficient at managing daily life, then her relationships with family will improve and she will be less lonely.

And your situation will massively improve. You need to consider what time you are willing to commit to her on a weekly or monthly basis as a daughter (not a carer), whether it is more regular ‘popping round’ for an hour to visit on a few days a week, or whether you have a particular afternoon that you go over, and plan to do something nice with her. As she has mobility issues (with a walking frame), it may mean that she needs to get a folding wheelchair for trips out with you. But there are plenty of taxis available that can accommodate a folding wheelchair in the boot.

Sorry for such a long post - but changing things now (and being firm that you are no longer able to subsidise her care costs by £1600 per month), will have a massive improvement on both of your lives. She might say that she is not willing or able to pay for a high level of care - but she is essentially expecting you to pay for it (in the opportunity cost of you having to work for £2 an hour, rather than £12.21 an hour).

My parent has 2 carers, 4 times a day, and the total cost of this is around £2400 a month, but she only pays a proportion of that (as it has all been arranged via the adult social care team). It was a big transition for my mum (and one that she was very unwilling to have, at the start), but in some ways she absolutely loves it now, as she has started to see the carers as friends, and she really gets on well with them, and she really enjoys the social aspect of it.

Also - Wiltshire Farm foods, they have various meals like roast dinners that come with veg (in the different compartments in the ready meal container), and they are great. They also have things that are more like standard ready meals (like pasta, eg macaroni cheese) - and it may be cheaper to get the standard ready meal type meal from somewhere else (eg Iceland), and just use Wiltshire Farm foods for the more complicated meals (that come with veg etc). My mum has them - you can order them over the phone, and the person that delivers them can put them straight in the freezer for you.

Cranberryavocado · 18/08/2025 13:08

I would tell family to back off unless they are prepared to organise a rota schedule of care for her so it is shared across different family membersz then they do not get to dictate or tell you how and when you should be caring for her. Maybe your mum needs a proper carer too as you have children and cant be at her beck and call.

drspouse · 18/08/2025 13:06

OSTMusTisNT · 18/08/2025 13:01

It will only get worse. As you are claiming Carers Allowance and taking the Attendance Allowance none your siblings will ever lift a finger as that makes for a good excuse.

Personally I would stop taking any money and get yourself into part time work. Mum can then use the money to pay for help and all siblings will need to step up equally.

I think the OP is in part time work, but I agree about not claiming her Attendance allowance.
If the siblings want to arrange for paid carers on their days, that can come out of the AA.

drspouse · 18/08/2025 13:05

From what you've posted, you should qualify for PIP (even though you work and care for her) and your adult child may qualify for PIP (though perhaps with drug problems it won't be a good idea) and your DCs if neurodiverse and needing extra care would qualify for DLA.
I think it sounds like your priorities are:

  1. Sort out her phone because then you can work independently from her re. blocking etc. I have no idea though how easy it will be to un-link an iPhone from an Apple ID, because I've just got a new iPad and couldn't remember my password but because I had an Apple ID they wouldn't let me just start from scratch. But even if you have to set her up with her own email address that she doesn't ever access.
  2. Tell her which days you are available and block her number and those of your siblings on your non-available days. Put a calendar in her house showing days you are on duty and days you are not. Let your siblings know and order food (even if she says she doesn't like it, if she can't get through to you to complain she can eat it, or not).
  3. Do your gardening which you like doing on the days you are there anyway (stops her bending your ear about things you don't want to do).
  4. If there are any hospital appointments etc. on a sibling day tell them how to arrange hospital transport if they can't take her (scrap that, just tell them Hospital Transport Is Available and if they come over all helpless tell them Google it).
OSTMusTisNT · 18/08/2025 13:01

It will only get worse. As you are claiming Carers Allowance and taking the Attendance Allowance none your siblings will ever lift a finger as that makes for a good excuse.

Personally I would stop taking any money and get yourself into part time work. Mum can then use the money to pay for help and all siblings will need to step up equally.

Wasitabadger · 18/08/2025 12:50

Ask for another assessment by social services. I know that agencies can be a nightmare and mess you around. Your mum can ask for direct payments and employ a carer directly who can act in more of a PA type role.

I experienced the opposite previously. My half sister manipulated me into relocating and employing the biological mother as my carer and housing her. Then thought she could dictate when the biological mother was allowed to do tasks for me. Once I settled in to the new place I put a stop to it and was subsequently dumped by all. Now I have no contact after trying again a few more times. I have more stability and security. I understand as a fellow Autistic women it is difficult as you feel morally obliged to support. Your role is to be as healthy as you can for you and your children. Feel free to PM if you want further advice and guidance I am a policy analyst.

ScupperedbytheSea · 18/08/2025 12:26

This sounds awful. There is no reason it has to continue. If your mum has capacity, she needs to do her own thinking rather than relying on you.

I would let everyone know you can no longer manage the caring hours, and that you won't take any money. If you want, offer to visit on a day that suits you, and say you can spend x hours doing shopping/cleaning/gardening if she makes a list in order of importance.

Persevere with carers, it's not always ideal, but you'll burnout otherwise.

Then take a step back. You'll likely get a lot of pushback, but stick to your guns. You're being terribly abused by your family.

Stoufer · 18/08/2025 12:22

I think you should stop being your mum’s ‘carer’, and start being her ‘daughter’ again, like your other siblings. I think you need to protect your own future, it sounds like you may become financially vulnerable - in terms of think about how you will manage financially in the future.

I think now is the time to actually ramp up your proper paid employment - it sounds like you are subsidising your mum to the tune of £1000s of pounds a month - and unless you have substantial means / savings, then you are doing this at the expense of your own (and possibly your dcs’) future financial security.

You need to contact the adult social care department in your council, and ask for an adult social care assessment. You can be there when this happens, and can make sure you tell the assessor what things your mum actually needs doing for her, and what things she has done for her. They can make recommendations, and if your mum has savings over £23k (if in England) then any care need that is identified, she will need to pay for herself, but if she has savings less than £23k, then you can help her fill in a financial assessment form, which goes through income / expenditure / savings etc, and the amount she has to contribute will be worked out from this basis.

If she is on the lower end of the financial spectrum (not too much in savings, and not too much in income), then it may just be the attendance allowance that she will need to contribute to the care. I have to go - but will post again shortly!

TeaBiscuitsNaptime · 18/08/2025 12:22

Maybe you could check out charities for the elderly too for support. Meals on wheels etc.

TeaBiscuitsNaptime · 18/08/2025 12:20

It sounds like she needs someone else to have on standby (not you, you're doing enough by the sound of things). A neighbour or family member/friend maybe

Dormit · 18/08/2025 12:16

She’d managed to make herself a hot chocolate and eat some danish pastries that are individually wrapped and in a bowl for her. Some days I make do with toast or porridge for dinner if I can’t be bothered or I’m too tired or feel ill. Sometimes we all have to make do with whatever we’ve got, nobody’s going to suffer from not having a hot meal in the evening. I’ve said I’ll call at the chippy on the way up so she’s had a hot lunch and will make her a sandwich and put it in the fridge for dinner later. All the professionals have said she needs to move more so I’m reluctant do things I know she can do albeit with difficulty. If she couldn’t do things then they would be different. Her mentality is a significant barrier.

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MolkosTeenageAngst · 18/08/2025 12:12

Dormit · 17/08/2025 19:56

Sorry, I was speaking to mum in the middle of typing that.
Mum gives me her attendance allowance, or £400 of it which works out around £2.50 am hour based on the 35 hrs required to be an official carer. I do more than that so it’s less per hour. To pay someone, or rather multiple people, to do what I do a week, it would be costing a few thousand. I did start keeping a diary of my hours and in my week off when the carers were in I still spent 25 hours doing stuff for mum. Mainly coming and sorting out the shite carers.
I love doing her gardening and will spend 4 hours easy gardening each week. That’s £100 alone. Cleaning is around 3-4 hours. Then there’s meals, shopping and all the rest. It takes me an hour to get there and back. I go straight from taking my Ds to school, work solid, walk home, quickly eat lunch, pick up ds, walk home, make dinner, homework, showers, laundry etc then crash into bed around 9pm exhausted. I try to have one week day off and one weekend day. It doesn’t always work out like that but it’s an average. I did all her packing for her holiday, booked the holiday, booked the carers, booked a Waitrose delivery for when she got back, got her to get my sister to make her a meal the night before she went, and basically made sure everything was in place for her before and after and during her holiday whilst packing for myself and the 2dc. Yet, I’m not doing enough for what she pays me according to my sister.
I feel much better for a good rant, thank you. I’m off to find some chocolate!

You need to cut back on what you’re doing. 4 hours of gardening a week is ridiculous if you’re already pushed for time. It won’t affect your mum if the garden has a few weeds or if the grass is allowed to get a bit overgrown before you mow it. Unless your mum has acres of land you really shouldn’t need to spend 4 hours a week gardening! 4 hours cleaning a week seems a lot as well if it is just your mum at home alone, I assume she must live in a huge house. Maybe she needs to look at moving into a smaller place so that she can maintain her independence for longer.

Why don’t you use online delivery to do her shopping to save you having to go to the shops and back? Considering you don’t drive this would surely be much easier and save you time and effort. You can arrange a delivery slot for a time you would be there anyway.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 18/08/2025 12:07

She must be dying of thirst if she’s waited for you to come home from your holiday? 🤨

Cheeky mare.

Dormit · 18/08/2025 12:02

The children wouldn’t qualify for DLA I don’t think and seeing as I’m doing so much for my mum, I certainly wouldn’t. The money side of things is worrying. I do get the carers allowance and mum is quick to point out that it’s supposed to be 35 hours a week. So if I only go 4 days a week and stay for 4-4.5 hours then I wouldn’t meet that time specification. Obviously I do a lot at home for her too in terms of shopping and emails and phone calls. Then she gets upset that I’m “charging her” for doing things a daughter should do. Not a son, not her other daughter, just this daughter. Then there’s the derision from certain people that I don’t work as though I live on he life of Riley. I don’t feel like I have a life sometimes. Later today I’m going to phone SS and ask them to do an assessment. Then at least the box is ticked and we’ll see if she’s eligible for any help from them. I doubt it.

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newfriend05 · 18/08/2025 11:28

@Dormit I’ve been you in this situation .. You just have to put your boundaries up and if it comes to it, stop being your mum’s carer You seem to have enough on your plate as it is use that as an excuse and get out of it .. If it’s due to the money side of it, for example you get carers allowance are either of your children on DLA ? I promise myself, I’ll never get myself into that situation again. I just now say I’m not doing it.

Dormit · 18/08/2025 11:20

@Octavia64she sees that she pays me to do it so I’m expected to do everything. I hoover every time I go because the carpet shows every crumb. I empty the bins, take out the recycling. My sister barely manages to put her own rubbish in the bin. I too have chronic pain as well as being autistic and ADHD with 3 ND children one of which is now an adult and has drug issues. She doesn’t live with me. It’s a lot of stress and I get angry at the helpless act from mum then feel guilty for feeling angry and resentful. She’s managed fine on holiday with her friend so she can pull herself together out of this helpless crap.

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