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Just having a ranty rant

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BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 13/08/2025 19:08

I don't particularly need advice because my Mother won't fucking well take it on board anyway. She's just winding me up because we can all see an imminent crisis looming except for her.

Mum is 83, widowed and has resources, more money than she could possibly spend so she can have whatever type of twilight years that she wants but she needs to be thinking about what she wants and to put plans into place. But, no, she's apparently 'not at that stage yet'.

She lives in a house that she and my Dad built early in their marriage, she has a glorious garden of about half an acre and a great view because she's on the side of a hill. She never wants to move out and I am happy to support that if it's what she wants. However, she can't get anywhere without a car and it's a bastard of a road that is about a car and a half wide for most of it, so that cars need to pull into gateways to pass. I'm not thrilled about her driving at all, although there haven't been any incidents and she doesn't go out at night. She has a lovely cleaner, who was previously a carer for my deceased uncle, who goes to Mum every weekday morning. She takes Mum to the supermarket and to appointments if they are in the mornings. But she has young DC and goes with them back to her home country for a month in the summer. Mum will, deliberately, not tell us when she goes away because we will fuss (ie check up on her more frequently).

So now, today, there is a mini crisis. The type of thing that I told her would happen and that she needs to plan for. She had to have a minor eye operation, she only told me about it last week. Her lovely cleaner is away and not back until the end of August. I dropped her into the hospital, went up to the house to let the puppy (that we told her not to get because she really can't properly care for him) out for a wee, picked her up from hospital, got her prescription and some painkillers and care items. She's not allowed to drive until after the follow up appointment in two weeks. AND YET APPPARENTLY SHE DOESN'T NEED ANYBODY'S HELP. She is driving me insane. She was sitting in the passenger seat of my car after hours of me too-ing and fro-ing and saying without a hint of irony that she never has and never will ask me for anything. She is still insisting that she is not yet at the stage of needing any sort of care or help.

AAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHH!

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WaggledMyAerialAndWolfedMyCustardCreams · 17/09/2025 21:05

I’m just dropping in to say that, for anyone who needs to offload, the Cockroach Cafe in this topic is a warm and welcoming place, full of lovely people who are all too familiar with these issues.

shellyleppard · 17/09/2025 20:46

@BlackAmericanoNoSugar it drives you mad doesn't it. You try and help your elderly unstable/unwell relative and.... they leave the bloody help in a drawer!!! Could I possibly suggest alarm cords around the house like they have in public toilets? Sending the biggest of hugs x could a carer pop in twice a day to keep an eye on the medication? Or would she not be agreeable?

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 17/09/2025 20:35

She has one of those @bjonesreborn, it lives in a drawer in her kitchen. Hmm

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bjonesreborn · 17/09/2025 20:25

@BlackAmericanoNoSugar would your mum be open to wearing a necklace/bracelet fall detector alarm? We got one for my 94yr old dad after my mum died. As he lives on his own now and we were concerned about falls. It’s great for peace of mind for us children (all aged 50+!!) we got one with gps so even if he’s not in the house it will still go off if he falls

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 17/09/2025 20:16

I'm back for a quick update. There's been changes that are both good and bad at the same time.

Mum's regular cleaner is back from holiday and going in every weekday morning. My cleaner and Mum got along really well so she is now going to Mum one afternoon a week, and Mum also has the other carer one afternoon a week. Which is really useful for things like hair appointments etc. When my cleaner first went up to Mum, Mum told her that I was a bossy bitch who stole her dog (when he was off being house trained) because I was jealous because my dog is boring and has no personality. I will own the bossy bitch part, but trash talking about my lovely dog is going too far. Grin

Mum has voluntarily given up driving, which is a huge worry off my mind (good) but she does live off the beaten track so she's now completely reliant on other people (bad).

The puppy has gone, good because he will hopefully go to a lovely active family but sad because he was her only company for part of the day. He tripped Mum up and she couldn't get back up off the floor and he was bouncing all over her and doing puppy nips. She phoned my friend, the one who house trained him, to ask if she could take him for a couple of days. When friend asked when she wanted her to take him, Mum said 'now, because I'm on the floor and can't get up'. Hmm My friend had a chat with Mum and they decided that they might wait a few weeks and then go to the rehoming place to see if they had any quiet, adult dogs that might suit her better. Mum absolutely forbid my friend from telling me that she'd had a fall caused by the puppy, so my friend waited until she was in the car on the way home and then phoned me anyway. Grin DB has gone up this evening to check on Mum and get the puppy paperwork.

We are trying to find someone to sleep overnight, although Mum is massively resistant to the idea. She doesn't need any personal care but she's not capable of getting up by herself if she falls so it would be good to have someone around who could call us if needed, or an ambulance if needed and has the maturity to know which is the better option. According to Mum, she never falls. I should resist but every time she says that, I list the most recent falls. I should just ignore her and not let her trigger me because she just claims I'm making stuff up. I'm also a bit worried about her taking her medication which seems erratic. I'm especially worried about her eye drops for glaucoma, as far as I can tell from counting the drop capsules she is only remembering to do it once or twice a week. They're done at bedtime so I'm not there to remind her but hopefully if we do find someone to sleep over and they remind her as she's off to bed then she will do it.

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BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 17/08/2025 18:12

Freysimo · 17/08/2025 17:45

It's all very well for puppy going to be house trained but unless your mum is consistent and keeps things up it's a waste of time and pup will soon regress. Is there no way she could have been dissuaded from having a pup? I'm in my 70s but when my old girl goes, there's no way I'd have a pup. It would be irresponsible.

I know, I know. But there isn't much that I can do really except what I can. We were pretty sure that she wouldn't be able to organise a puppy for herself so DB and I were just putting up with her asking us to help and then being pissed off with us when we refused. I don't know the person who arranged the puppy for her so I can't get in contact with her to take the dog back and anyway Mum turns into some kind of passive aggressive dementor when told that it's not good for the puppy to be with someone like her so she would probably never talk to me again.

I will set up a dog walker when he's a little older so he will be socialised with other dogs. When Mum was your age she would also have thought that people over 80 shouldn't have puppies, but then she became over 80 and she would quite like everyone and their opinions to fuck right off.

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Freysimo · 17/08/2025 17:45

It's all very well for puppy going to be house trained but unless your mum is consistent and keeps things up it's a waste of time and pup will soon regress. Is there no way she could have been dissuaded from having a pup? I'm in my 70s but when my old girl goes, there's no way I'd have a pup. It would be irresponsible.

countrygirl99 · 17/08/2025 17:42

I've decided dealing with one of my siblings re elderly parent is worse than dealing with the elderly parent. A lot worse. Will crack open a bottle of champagne once mum is gone and I never need to talk to him again.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 17/08/2025 17:23

My sympathies to everyone also having issues with elderly relatives. It's just exhausting and I'm completely not the right personality for going with the flow when she agrees one thing and then denies that she ever agreed, in fact denies that the subject was even raised.

The lady who looks after my aunt is delightful and Mum got on really well with her when they met this afternoon. So she's going to come one afternoon a week for a couple of hours, Mum seemed to be looking forward to it but will mostly likely be surprised when she turns up.

The puppy is going to my friend's house for a week to hopefully be house trained. Mum refused when I raised it last week, then thought it would be a good idea when we brought it up at lunchtime today. Apparently she still thought it was a good idea in DB's car while he was driving her home. But by the time I was up there so she could meet the potential carer she was all upset that people were 'stealing her dog'. She also said that he didn't poo indoors despite my DB having just cleaned one up in the kitchen. Hmm The dog is still going, I will go and meet my friend up there and dognap him if we have to. Hopefully it will only take a week for him to get the hang of it.

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StepsInTime · 16/08/2025 08:21

MrsSkylerWhite · 15/08/2025 21:47

Christ, tell me about it. Right up to Covid mum, now 85, was vivacious, energetic, physically A1. The decline came quickly and was obvious to us all but she was having none of it. Refused to talk to any doctors in the early stages when meds could possibly have helped. , “I’ll fly til I die”. Fine, nice sentiment but she’s making life thoroughly miserable for stepdad now, several years on.

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MrsSkylerWhite · 15/08/2025 21:47

StepsInTime · 15/08/2025 20:34

What really breaks my heart is how much better the last years of life could be if it wasn’t for the denial. Move to a smaller place = more energy for fun stuff rather than worrying about the house. Move closer to family = less loneliness. Get a cleaner = more energy for other stuff. Set up direct debits = less time holding on the phone. Learn to use a mobile = less mornings/afternoons spent at home waiting for a callback that often doesn’t happen. Etc etc

Christ, tell me about it. Right up to Covid mum, now 85, was vivacious, energetic, physically A1. The decline came quickly and was obvious to us all but she was having none of it. Refused to talk to any doctors in the early stages when meds could possibly have helped. , “I’ll fly til I die”. Fine, nice sentiment but she’s making life thoroughly miserable for stepdad now, several years on.

StepsInTime · 15/08/2025 20:34

What really breaks my heart is how much better the last years of life could be if it wasn’t for the denial. Move to a smaller place = more energy for fun stuff rather than worrying about the house. Move closer to family = less loneliness. Get a cleaner = more energy for other stuff. Set up direct debits = less time holding on the phone. Learn to use a mobile = less mornings/afternoons spent at home waiting for a callback that often doesn’t happen. Etc etc

KickAssAngel · 15/08/2025 19:39

TammyJones · 15/08/2025 12:46

Did mum take it on board ?

To a point, temporarily.
It got her Mum to accept having a cleaner and moving to a more appropriate home - which were big wins, and essential.

Since then, 2 years on, her Mum has "stuck" - obviously, she did what was needed, and now doesn't need to make any further adjustments, in her mind.

Sadly, with aging, it's a continuous process, and with a stubborn parent, an endless succession of persuading them to accept the next new thing. It's also a balancing act of not wanting to just give up and sit in a wheelchair doing nothing

StepsInTime · 15/08/2025 19:38

Tbh if I tell my mother her attitude is causing me stress, she doubles down “oh no, I don’t want that. You think about yourself, I’ll take care of it all”

StepsInTime · 15/08/2025 19:37

KickAssAngel · 14/08/2025 23:03

One of my co workers made her mother a slide show titled "how you not being a burden is causing me stress and costing me money".

It wasn't done in jest.

Can you get a copy of the slides for us all here? Grin

DemonsandMosquitoes · 15/08/2025 13:18

‘Cross that bridge’ was FIL saying. Then straight on the phone to family when things went awry. It left a very bitter taste when he passed tbh.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 15/08/2025 13:16

Mugon · 15/08/2025 12:32

Re the driving, my parents have held on to their cars longer than they should. My DS has shown them the Uber app and how easy and convenient it is, how you can see exactly where they are and when they will arrive, be dropped at the door etc and it's like they've gained exciting secret knowledge and aren't they modern 😆

It wouldn't have worked if I'd done it, but DGS...

Unfortunately taxis won't pick up from Mum's place, they will take an advance booking on the app and then cancel at the time for pick up. If she tries to use the app at the time that she wants to leave then there aren't usually any within 10 minutes drive and she won't get an acceptance. So she can only ever get a taxi to her house and not from her house.

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TammyJones · 15/08/2025 12:46

KickAssAngel · 14/08/2025 23:03

One of my co workers made her mother a slide show titled "how you not being a burden is causing me stress and costing me money".

It wasn't done in jest.

Did mum take it on board ?

Mugon · 15/08/2025 12:32

Re the driving, my parents have held on to their cars longer than they should. My DS has shown them the Uber app and how easy and convenient it is, how you can see exactly where they are and when they will arrive, be dropped at the door etc and it's like they've gained exciting secret knowledge and aren't they modern 😆

It wouldn't have worked if I'd done it, but DGS...

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 15/08/2025 12:27

My friend was telling me yesterday that her mother used to complain that she didn't need people always around and coming in and out of the house. So my friend said "If that's what you want we can give it a day without help and see how you get on". Then while my friend was still standing there her mum decided to go to the loo and couldn't get up out of her chair. My friend did help her, obviously, but not until her mum agreed that help was needed. Although that only stopped the denial for the rest of that day. Grin

Anyway, my cleaner is now going up to Mum three mornings a week until Mum's cleaner gets back and on Sunday we are meeting with someone who is a carer for my aunt who may be able to do two afternoons a week helping with whatever Mum needs like driving her to places or running errands etc.

Mum says that she doesn't need anything but what worked well yesterday was sending her a text at about 9am to say I would be up at lunchtime and to send me a text if she needed anything. That gave her time to think without pressure and she sent me a couple of texts (butter and white wine, the essentials). So I think I'll do that at least every second day and I can also check her fridge and she what she needs.

My DB is great, I read so many threads on here where the daughter is doing all the running around and the son does nothing. My DB goes up to her at the weekends and he has taken over all her admin, bill paying, insurance forms etc. So at least the load is shared.

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KickAssAngel · 14/08/2025 23:03

One of my co workers made her mother a slide show titled "how you not being a burden is causing me stress and costing me money".

It wasn't done in jest.

FishermansFool · 14/08/2025 22:20

See below

Just having a ranty rant
FishermansFool · 14/08/2025 22:18

i randomly saw this on BBC website and was shocked but not surprised

FishermansFool · 14/08/2025 22:10

Keep an eye on her driving so to speak. My DF still thinks he's fine to drive and wants the DVLA to return his licence. He wouldn't voluntary give it up and so he had to go for a test at the GP request. He had 2 accidents in one day but didn't even realise he had the first.....child on a bike,which could have turned out so much worse.
Eye ops don't always return the patient back to where their baseline was either.

MrsSkylerWhite · 14/08/2025 11:41

Honestly, just leave her to get on with it.