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Possibly relationships- but definitely because of Elderly parents

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BlueLegume · 12/07/2025 21:40

Rough few years with elderly parents, very rough. I have had a few threads on here explaining. I stepped back (ish) a few months ago doing what I can for the EP (D)F who needs and accepts my input. My mother however is incredibly difficult. We currently do not live near but am about an hour away.

All that aside it has taken a massive toll on my marriage. I mistakenly thought I was trying to get things better for very nice husband. I have clearly missed every single thing as this evening he began a conversation about the future and what my plans are re my very elderly parents and what we would like to do. Don’t want to out myself so I will be vague about that but we planned to move very much further away to be near our own kids.

When I said I cannot give a definitive answer to whether I would want to do he said in terms of visiting Dad in his nursing home and an impossible situation with my mother - which I admit to being very frustrated about and probably having a whinge about far too much- he said ‘you are the most unpleasant human I know’.

I’m gutted. Really tough few years-scrap that life of people pleasing an awful mother now really sad that someone I love and admire so much hates me so much.

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TorroFerney · 15/07/2025 11:19

LadyJaneGrey18 · 14/07/2025 10:00

You all need to just stop doing what you’re doing and force her hand.

And that will in turn help with issues with your other half as you are doing the thing rather than talking about it, promising him and then getting sucked back in.

its a choice isn’t it, a really impossible one when you are mired in it but nothing will actually happen to you if you step away, it’s all internal thoughts and feelings we try to avoid.

BlueLegume · 14/07/2025 15:35

Hi @HoraceGoesBonkers the first part of your last post is spot on. Sadly as you will know from my previous threads she makes everything unnecessarily complicated and difficult. eg. Me: Why is your toaster in the hallway? Mum: It’s broken. Me: Let me have a look. Plug it in pop in some bread - works perfectly. Me: See Mum it works fine you have just turned it down to the lowest setting. Mum: It only works when you are here.

Rinse and repeat for the heating/oven/washing machine/kettle/iron/fire/blinds/hairdryer/microwave - you get the picture and are right she does all of this to control us. Clinicians would not have any of her nonsense. Anyhow thanks to all who have responded and I am stepping away (again I know, I know).

I need to heal myself again. Holidays abit difficult as still need to visit my father in his nursing home and as mother has alienated everyone else and is refusing to visit it’s down to us (bickering and resentful) as the adult kids.

House move wise I am not avoiding responding to questions etc but am wary I do not ‘out’ myself!! So it is still on the table and we are lucky to be able to move without too much hassle as finances are all in place.

What I will ask as a light touch is if anyone has any recommendations of somewhere nice to live, busy not rural within an hour commute of London I am all ears. Happy also perusing places I cannot afford for fun 😂

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HoraceGoesBonkers · 14/07/2025 14:07

@Mischance the problem is BL's mum is going out her way to invent situations to be assisted with, and then normally insists only her family could possibly help her with them, not someone she's paid to assist. If he steps up to help then it will only feed into the situation.

@BlueLegume Even if the house move is going to take a while, can you go off on holiday for a bit and not tell your DM? Holidays set mine off, the final nail in the coffin was her trying to contact me repeatedly about imaginary health issues when I was away.

BernardButlersBra · 14/07/2025 11:26

@Mischance problem is her mum wants the assistance but doesn't need it by the sounds of it. To be fair in her husbands shoes then l wouldn't be sacrificing my precious time and effort on someone who basically can't be bothered doing it for themselves. Then shoots down all suggestions to instead try to control someone else to do it

JessicaTookMyLunch · 14/07/2025 10:36

Sadly parents are like children, there is only so much you can do before letting them just get on with it. You describe it as an impossible situation but it isn't. If you and your sibling were not around what would she do? She is trying to force your hand, don't let her.

What you need to do is dedicate 5 minutes of time to yourself. Don't think about about what anybody else wants. What do you want? If no one was making any demands on you, where would you be? Would it be in a house nearer to your own children? Then start making moves to do that. No doubt your children are also frustrated by your capitulation to your Mother's demands.

Get on Rightmove and look, see what is out there. Start planning and looking ahead. You need to put yourself, your husband and your children first.

EmotionalBlackmail · 14/07/2025 10:07

It does sound like taking some real steps to make your move closer to your children would be a good idea.

It will put distance between yourself and your parents. I find 2-3 hours away is quite good!

Think of the amazing new life you could be having. Do you know which area you want to be in and what sort of house you’d be able to afford there?

LadyJaneGrey18 · 14/07/2025 10:00

BlueLegume · 14/07/2025 09:57

@Mischance yes he has been incredibly helpful and supportive. Sadly the issue is my mother who utterly refuses any sensible suggestions to make her life and our life more manageable so my siblings and I have had to navigate a riddle of stupid unrealistic expectations on top of also organising care for our very sick father.

We are all simply burnt out and frazzled by our mothers behaviour.

You all need to just stop doing what you’re doing and force her hand.

BlueLegume · 14/07/2025 09:57

@Mischance yes he has been incredibly helpful and supportive. Sadly the issue is my mother who utterly refuses any sensible suggestions to make her life and our life more manageable so my siblings and I have had to navigate a riddle of stupid unrealistic expectations on top of also organising care for our very sick father.

We are all simply burnt out and frazzled by our mothers behaviour.

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Mischance · 14/07/2025 09:54

BlueLegume · 12/07/2025 23:04

Thank you @Lastknownaddress Lots of really good points. Possibly heat of the moment. I am sleeping in a different room this evening. Think we have literally run out of steam with our elderly situation. Thanks for engaging will try and sleep and see what tomorrow looks like. You make some good points and I will attempt to see if I can address them. Sadly I think he is just done with the weight of responsibility I have been saddled with. I get it. Thank you though.

Is he not sharing that responsibility? If he's fed up with your weight of responsibility he should be helping you.

BlueLegume · 14/07/2025 09:54

@LadyJaneGrey18 total sympathy. I hope you find a solution.

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BlueLegume · 14/07/2025 09:52

@JessicaTookMyLunch spot on. Sometimes I just have a wobble and seeing how a few little things would help everyone - my mother included - I get frustrated . A food delivery here and there to save us having to drop her food off - she is refusing to leave the house and says she has no access to her bank account- she does. A cleaner - her house is in need of cleaning - I was doing it but it didn’t meet her standards so I stopped. A carer to help her do washing etc. She won’t allow anyone in except us. I am embracing that I have had a wobble, have taken it out on the very person who supports all this madness and need to reframe things and stand firm on what matters to me. I definitely panic inside thinking about how I could end up alone and sucked back to being her carer. I have a lovely family and I can see they are frustrated at me trying to solve an impossible problem.

Thank you everyone I sometimes need the voice of reason from strangers Flowers

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LadyJaneGrey18 · 14/07/2025 09:52

I agree with most of this, but we do have a responsibility to our elderly parents. They brought us up and made sacrifices for us. It’s the circle of life that we should try and help them as much as we can , but without this being massively detrimental to our own health and well being and marriages. The exception to this is if our parent has always been unkind or abusive and done nothing for us. I want to move hundreds of miles away to be closer to my adult children and my grandchildren, leaving my mother unsupported. I have got the stage though where I can’t bear to be in the same room as her or hear her voice. She’s spiteful and unpleasant. Will put on the nice act for a few months and then it all falls apart again. It’s destroying me. Don’t let your mother ruin your life and put yourself first.

JessicaTookMyLunch · 14/07/2025 09:45

I haven't seen your previous posts but from this thread alone you said "we planned to move very much further away to be near our own kids" so you are missing out on your own children's lives because you cannot stay strong on enforcing your boundaries.

What if, your Dh leaves you this month, moves closer to your children and continues to WFH near them and you end up moving closer to your parents to deal with them and spend the next 10 - 15 years doing that? All the while missing out on spending time with your children and whatever they are doing and destroying your marriage in the process.

Your priority should always be your Dh and your children. You are choosing to be "saddled" with responsibility. You can walk away. No one is holding a gun to your head. My own Mother told us we were never to become her carer because it would have such an impact on our marriages, our children and she never wanted that for us. She gave us permission to do that, you need to give yourself permission to turn into your marriage and remember who you made your vows to. The phrase "forsaking all others" isn't just romantic partners, it has a wider meaning, to prioritise your spouse and your relationship with them.

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TartanBarmy · 14/07/2025 09:26

I’m really sorry to hear that - so use the thread (I can’t find it!) to help you stay firm. Your mother is clearly an expert at drawing you back in but your husband and family have GOT to be a priority. Access the support on here. Say what she’s doing and listen to the chorus of people telling you to stick to your guns. You’re not an only child! She’s a cow! You love your husband! She is going to ruin your marriage! You will be single and exhausted and she will die happily knowing she really fucked your life.

BlueLegume · 14/07/2025 08:57

@TartanBarmy you remember correctly re previous thread. Got lured back in yes. We are trying this week to be kind to each other. Our only conflict comes from the situation with my parents - particularly my mother.

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rookiemere · 14/07/2025 08:20

Unfortunately elderly DPs who refuse to accept the reality of their situation, push us to our limits. My DPs are not bad people but have no thought to the impact on me of their refusal to get in necessary help. I have said things about them over the past few months that I am not proud of, but equally I wouldn’t take back because they are true. It’s a battle for survival and I am not going to sacrifice my independence for theirs.

It must be hard for your DH sitting on the sidelines hearing all your bitterness. It’s so easy to think about the right thing to do when you are not in the crossfire.

I would message him if it’s difficult to talk. Tell him you love him and your marriage is the most important thing in the world to you and what do you need to do to move forward. In truth it can’t just be you that’s caused the issues, but listening and understanding right now will move things forward more than justifying.

TartanBarmy · 14/07/2025 08:04

I may be misremembering but didn’t you start a thread where you had enforced boundaries and were stepping away from your horrible manipulative mother specifically because of your marriage? Have you been lured back in? You were determined not to be!

myplace · 14/07/2025 08:03

I may have misunderstood the context, is he saying you are unpleasant because of your attitude to your parents, or because you are miserable and hard to be around because of your parents?

Can you schedule yourself a holiday/sick leave, as in ‘Mum I’m not available for two weeks. I’ll be out of contact, my phone won’t work. I’ve been told I must have absolute rest.’

We’ll Happily tell you that you must have absolute rest or you will get ill!

I’m so sorry. I have had to put some boundaries in with EM. She’s a pain in the arse and like a PP, has never inconvenienced herself in her life. I hope you and he can find a way through together. 💐

HoraceGoesBonkers · 14/07/2025 07:50

Hope you're ok @BlueLegume and have talked over things with your husband.

Would doing more solid things around moving help, like looking at houses etc? It sounds as if you really need to go but also it will be a bit like ripping off a plaster.

Lastknownaddress · 13/07/2025 13:09

Littlefish · 13/07/2025 12:53

I think that that best way to make amends is by taking firm action, as others have suggested.

  1. If your mother won’t accept help, walk away for a set period of time to hopefully show her that she cannot cope without help and you are not going to provide the support.
  2. Book sessions with a counsellor/psychotherapist

This. You need to spend time on you and DH. The BACP link above is great and you can search by postcode. I recommend face to face counselling if you can. Get yourself away from the situation and do a brain dump once a week/fortnight/month/as needed. You owe it to yourself and DH, and your lovely children. They need you. Whole, well and knowing that you are loved. Start thinking of your future.

LadyJaneGrey18 · 13/07/2025 13:07

I don’t know why so many women feel this responsibility to be the sole support for their parents. Most men don’t feel this way. I have a manipulative unpleasant mother too. Happy for me to wear myself out doing her admin etc but behaves like an utter bitch. I am moving away next year. She’s never inconvenienced herself for me once in my adult life and rarely in my childhood. Why should I prioritise her now? Ask yourself the same question. Put yourself first.

B0D · 13/07/2025 13:00

It’s not any easy situation. I was lucky to get some free and very good counselling from the carers association local to my mother . There should be one in most areas.

BlueLegume · 13/07/2025 12:54

@Littlefish excellent suggestions

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Littlefish · 13/07/2025 12:53

I think that that best way to make amends is by taking firm action, as others have suggested.

  1. If your mother won’t accept help, walk away for a set period of time to hopefully show her that she cannot cope without help and you are not going to provide the support.
  2. Book sessions with a counsellor/psychotherapist
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