Please or to access all these features

Elderly parents

What to do - driving

135 replies

drivingmetomywitsend · 03/07/2025 17:33

My dad is 81, and lives with my mum who is the same age. They manage at home without any outside support, apart from me. Dad has been having episodes of dizziness/collapse for some time now, which have resulted in several hospital admissions while they try to get to the cause of it. He’s currently waiting for an appointment with the heart failure consultant. He also has worsening memory problems.

His last episode was on Monday night, and on Tuesday the doctor we saw said in no uncertain terms that he wasn’t to drive unless they told him he could. Mum can drive but hasn’t done for some time, and has lost her confidence. We’ve discussed her having a refresher lesson or two but she wasn’t enthusiastic.

Today dad had an appointment with his GP, which is only about 1/4 mile away, at the top of the road, but he insisted on driving as it wasn’t far….

I’ve pointed out that he is driving illegally and uninsured but they both brushed it off (“But it wasn’t far!”)

I suggested that mum tries a short trip tomorrow but I suspect that she won’t, and may even just tell me she has to shut me up. I am happy to take them to hospital appointments, as parking is also a nightmare there, but I am reluctant to become their default to drive up the road or to the local supermarket - they can easily afford taxis btw. I live 20 minutes drive away, and once I’m over there tend to get sucked into helping them with other stuff, so it’d be a chunk of my day.

What do I do? The doctor said to inform the DVLA, I thought that was unnecessary since he wouldn’t be driving, but now I wish I had at the time. If I tell them now would it look like the doctor had told them? I’m not convinced it would stop him driving anyway, and I really don’t want him to cause an accident.

OP posts:
EmotionalBlackmail · 03/07/2025 19:39

Beautifulcreatures2 · 03/07/2025 19:13

If one of these elderly people killed someone and were had up in court I assume they could be imprisoned for manslaughter?

Yes, that’s right.
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/crime/elderly-driver-jailed-for-18-months-for-killing-28-year-old-motorcyclist-in-horror-crash-3786306
Although many of them seem to get away with a suspended prison sentence as long as they give up their licence and express remorse.

Don’t forget too that the insurance is invalid if they drive when a doctor has advised them not to, so the insurance wouldn’t pay out for costs of any crash, treatment of victims etc.

AntiHop · 03/07/2025 19:37

I got in touch with the dvla about my mum without hesitation. We have a duty to keep people safe. My mum was furious with me of course but calmed down eventually.

AntiHop · 03/07/2025 19:35

DemonsandMosquitoes · 03/07/2025 19:22

Not necessarily. The man who killed my mum and the other poor lady got a suspended sentence.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

ClearHoldBuild · 03/07/2025 19:32

Beautifulcreatures2 · 03/07/2025 19:13

If one of these elderly people killed someone and were had up in court I assume they could be imprisoned for manslaughter?

Generally if they give up their licence they rarely get a custodial sentence.

DemonsandMosquitoes · 03/07/2025 19:22

Beautifulcreatures2 · 03/07/2025 19:13

If one of these elderly people killed someone and were had up in court I assume they could be imprisoned for manslaughter?

Not necessarily. The man who killed my mum and the other poor lady got a suspended sentence.

DemonsandMosquitoes · 03/07/2025 19:21

You inform the DVLA and let them use taxis. That’s what their money is for. Don’t get sucked in.
My DM and another woman were killed by a pensioner ‘drifting’ into oncoming traffic. He survived, just, but couldn’t remember a thing about it.

Gingercar · 03/07/2025 19:15

We took a couple of spark plugs out of my mil’s car when she wouldn’t accept she needed to stop driving. My husband is a mechanic and he kept saying “l’ll fix it next week”…

Beautifulcreatures2 · 03/07/2025 19:13

If one of these elderly people killed someone and were had up in court I assume they could be imprisoned for manslaughter?

TheodoraCrumpet · 03/07/2025 19:10

DH removed both sets of FIL's car keys, and later the car itself, when FIL was advised he no longer had the reaction times or physical fitness required for driving. He didn't appreciate the loss of independence, but as he was still mentally capable he could see the dangers, though I suspect that left to himself he might have decided he was still okay to drive short familiar routes.
It's very difficult when you're dealing with a more stubborn character. With other issues I would frame unwanted changes as something that needed to be done 'for now', or 'until you get back on your feet'.

MarySueSaidBoo · 03/07/2025 18:55

My Dad was horribly reluctant to stop driving, but I took his keys off him after he had a minor bump in a car park and wouldn't admit to being at fault. He was furious with me for weeks afterwards but it was completely the right thing to do. His eyesight was simply too poor, and he did accept it eventually.

JustMyView13 · 03/07/2025 18:48

ClearHoldBuild · 03/07/2025 17:47

Take the keys and tell the DVLA. Ask your local neighbourhood PC/PCSO if they can have a chat with him. You can find their details at police.uk

Yeah, all of this!

If you don’t, and he kills or injures someone - a lot of people would question why you didn’t do more to intervene.

NoWomanNoBuy · 03/07/2025 18:22

ArghhWhatNext · 03/07/2025 18:07

I have been training my dad to use taxis. He hated the idea, but couldn’t drive for a bit (hip replacement) and I can’t drive so couldn’t be his chauffeur. Got him an uber account and got him introduced to his local taxi firm whose drivers he really likes.
The more he does it, the more he seems to realise the benefits.

This might be your best bet. Try to frame it that taxis are safer and stress free whilst waiting for it all to be 'sorted out'.

CornishTiger · 03/07/2025 18:21

This is how you report via email ( it’s a web form)

https://www.gov.uk/contact-the-dvla/y/driving-and-medical-issues

personally I’d take the keys too!

Driving and medical issues - Contact DVLA - GOV.UK

https://www.gov.uk/contact-the-dvla/y/driving-and-medical-issues

RhinestoneCowgirl · 03/07/2025 18:19

Adding to the chorus of you have to take the keys away. BIL had to do this when FIL started having absence seizures and was in denial. He actually had one whilst driving, luckily was moving at very low speed in a side road and just rolled into the kerb. Very frightening to think of what could have happened. FIL was incredibly angry at the time but has come to accept it.

AnSolas · 03/07/2025 18:16

Another vote for remove the car (not just the keys).

You Dad will not stop driving

He may have a type of vascular dementia from disrupted blood flow or afraid to loose their independance.
Either way he knows he is not fit to drive but is in denial.

Your Mum is not able to drive either and not willing to accept the conflict which will happen if she has to stop Dad or drive herself.

Sadly what is happening now is advanced warning of how things are going to fall appart for a while.

They are now housebound this will have a massive negitave impact on memory and social skills.

On the being sucked in you need a "Not on the list" rule. You only do what you came over to do and then leave.

Long term you need a work out what they need to change to adjust to having no car and how to manage the "stuff" you are getting sucked into.

Nb they need to sort out the power of attorney for both money and health asap.

Plus check that you are listed as an authorised person on any service provider.

countrygirl99 · 03/07/2025 18:12

FIL wouldn't give up until a police officer had a word with him. Might be worth a try.

Katherineryan1986 · 03/07/2025 18:11

Beautifulcreatures2 · 03/07/2025 18:07

My mother is 88 and has had several minor accidents in the past two years. She has always been a terrible driver but now is an absolute liability. No one else is prepared to tell her she needs to stop . I don’t know what to do.

Of course you know what to do, you just aren’t doing it! Just take away the keys/car and have done with it. Make her an account with a taxis firm so she can book and use whenever she needs to.

CornishTiger · 03/07/2025 18:10

There was a programme the other day. A documentary on those killed by drivers who should have given up their licences prior to the accident.

It was heartbreaking. Can you try and get them to sit down and watch it with you?

Otherwise tell the doctor. Tell the police. And report to DVLA anon

Katherineryan1986 · 03/07/2025 18:09

Thank goodness my Dad realised for himself that he should not drive and asked me to arrange to sell his car. Just take away the keys, or drive the car to your house until it’s sold. He is endangering your Mum, pedestrians and other drivers. How would he feel if he had an accident? How would you feel knowing that you could have prevented it by taking away the car.
Just do it.

Beautifulcreatures2 · 03/07/2025 18:08

olderbutwiser · 03/07/2025 18:07

I dobbed FIL in to the DVLA anonymously. They arranged a test drive for him, which he failed. He was furious but abided by it.

How did you do this? I think I need to do the same.

RiderGirl · 03/07/2025 18:08

My husband's boss once bought a car off someone, he had about 15 minutes to look/buy/take away, as the daughter was selling it while her dad was at an appointment and he didn't know about it.....

ArghhWhatNext · 03/07/2025 18:07

I have been training my dad to use taxis. He hated the idea, but couldn’t drive for a bit (hip replacement) and I can’t drive so couldn’t be his chauffeur. Got him an uber account and got him introduced to his local taxi firm whose drivers he really likes.
The more he does it, the more he seems to realise the benefits.

Beautifulcreatures2 · 03/07/2025 18:07

My mother is 88 and has had several minor accidents in the past two years. She has always been a terrible driver but now is an absolute liability. No one else is prepared to tell her she needs to stop . I don’t know what to do.

olderbutwiser · 03/07/2025 18:07

I dobbed FIL in to the DVLA anonymously. They arranged a test drive for him, which he failed. He was furious but abided by it.

Swipe left for the next trending thread