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I can't do this anymore

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ChristmasGrinch24 · 04/12/2024 15:57

My mother in law has stage 4 cancer, caught it late.
I've been running around non stop for two months straight while also caring for two kids with disabilities.im also unwell myself with a disability.

Shes now at the point where she's not well enough to be living on her own, and she's moved into ours. And I just cannot cope.
This morning she wet the bed, so I can to clean it up. She doesn't know where she is half the time. Shes at risk of falling.
It's to much. To much on top of my other caring responsibilities. I haven't showered in over a week.

My partners sister is the biggest selfish known to man, she doesn't give a shit. She doesn't even ring up to ask how she is.

I can't have her staying with us, it's just to much constantly, what can I do?

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OnlyinBlackandWhite · 12/12/2024 21:40

OP, please call the ambulance- tomorrow am first thing, or even tonight.

If you carry round this very frail and in pain old lady she may fall, you may fall, your husband may fall down the stairs. If her bed is not changed, then she will get bed sores/have urine on her skin, she needs two people to lift her and two people to move her in bed, change her, wash her and so on.

You can't do this any more and it's reached crisis stage (by you I mean all of you together can't do this, let alone you as an individual person).

ChristmasGrinch24 · 12/12/2024 21:34

TriangleLight · 12/12/2024 21:32

It’s time you all started thinking of the sick old woman, confused and in pain and not these petty things. You’re setting up horrible trauma for your DCs too.

I work in this area and would be ringing and would be ringing an ambulance myself if it knew where she was. I can’t actually believe this

First thing in the morning. Ambulance. She can refuse all she likes. She doesn't live here so she can't just demand she stays here. I'm done I really really mean it.

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TriangleLight · 12/12/2024 21:32

It’s time you all started thinking of the sick old woman, confused and in pain and not these petty things. You’re setting up horrible trauma for your DCs too.

I work in this area and would be ringing and would be ringing an ambulance myself if it knew where she was. I can’t actually believe this

ChristmasGrinch24 · 12/12/2024 21:24

She doesn't want MIL in her own home because she doesn't want to be stuck here looking after her.
Shes had another accident in the bed and I've said she needs to change it "no it's fine till tomorrow she's not sleeping in it." UGHHHHH Angry
She wants DP to take her downstairs to change the bed tomorrow, dp cant lift her by herself and I've just nearly dislocated my knee and she's not strong enough to lift the wheelchair not to mention it's fucking dangerous.
I'm done for the evening, I'm seething.

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Petrasings · 12/12/2024 20:40

Op you are under enormous pressure. Ask sil to leave and it can be discussed tomorrow. Call an ambulance once she has gone, and the drs at the hospital can assess her needs properly.

My thoughts are with you all. This is the hardest situation 💐

TriangleLight · 12/12/2024 20:29

mathanxiety · 12/12/2024 20:14

On the off chance that there is a bed, is it not a chance worth taking?

The OP and SIL are going thirteen rounds as if their beef is the only important aspect of this situation.

It is not.

Quite

Flustration · 12/12/2024 20:21

You have such a lot of your plate at the moment. I sincerely hope that your DS's ultrasound goes well and that 2025 has something very nice in store for you.

What is your SIL's objection to your MIL returning to her home? Is she worried your DH wouldn't pull his weight and would leave her to it? It doesn't sound like you're getting the best versions of either of them at the moment, so perhaps better to keep your expectations low and not rely on either of them. Neither have the capacity to consider your needs at the moment, so you will need to be your own champion.

How does your DH feel about his mother potentially passing in your home? I think you have more than enough going on and are well within your rights to say no, but I also know that end of life is exceptionally unpredictable. My advice would be to either take immediate direct action to prevent it (and those options seem very limited to either hospital or her own home at this exact moment in time) or start to think about how you will make peace with her passing in your home if it does happen unexpectedly before a hospice bed becomes available. Sorry, I don't think you should have to face that, but I also think that having a mental plan of how you'd cope should it happen would be wise. For example, you could plan to buy a new bed and rearrange your room. Nothing will make it ok if it's something that is distressing for you, but having a plan helps us continue.

AInightingale · 12/12/2024 20:16

Can you take the kids and go to your MIL's bungalow alone OP? Leave your husband and his vile sister to it. I think you mentioned it was nearby. Even if not ideal, it would give you headspace. You are going through horrendous stress with your child atm too, that alone would break some people. Doesn't your SIL care about that? She sounds horrifically selfish.

mathanxiety · 12/12/2024 20:14

AInightingale · 12/12/2024 00:10

Do hospitals have the beds to do this though? Poor woman would probably lie in an ambulance for hours then be admitted to lie in a corridor. It's December and the NHS is screwed.

On the off chance that there is a bed, is it not a chance worth taking?

The OP and SIL are going thirteen rounds as if their beef is the only important aspect of this situation.

It is not.

mathanxiety · 12/12/2024 20:11

Uricon2 · 12/12/2024 17:50

From updates, the only real solution for you is to leave with your kids and go elsewhere, because from stupidity/grief/intransigence/whatever you are getting nowhere with your husband and SIL.

I feel extremely sorry for the dying woman in the middle of this, above everyone else, because she is being failed horribly by seemingly practically everyone involved.

ETA a safeguarding referral to social services would not in my view be uncalled for, for her, not anyone else.

Edited

Agree. That poor old woman.

ChristmasGrinch24 · 12/12/2024 19:43

Nope, SIL refuses to take her back to her house. She wants her to die here if can't get a hospice.
I'm not sure how id cope mentally if she died in my house. Just praying a palliative care bed comes available tomorrow.

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OnlyinBlackandWhite · 12/12/2024 19:14

You are having the worst time, OP. I hope your MIL gets a hospice bed very soon, a reassessment by the district nurses is urgent. So sorry.

narniabusiness · 12/12/2024 19:06

I’m so sorry to read about the awful time you are going through.
Is there any way that your MIL can go back to her house (I think you said it was 10 mins away) and your DH and SIL stay there with her, so that you and your children get your home back. From what you’ve said it seems that it wouldn’t be for long as sadly your MIL seems to be deteriorating very fast.

ChristmasGrinch24 · 12/12/2024 18:41

However it's traumising for the kids to see their aunt kicked out, not to mention their cousin.

My eldest is also being referred for a ultrasound & biopsy on a lymph node that's gone hard and not gone down in 5 months and causing him severe headaches, they suspect it may be cancer this evening. So things aren't good.

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ChristmasGrinch24 · 12/12/2024 18:39

DP would happily kick SIL out after her comments today, she was trying to get a hostipal bed set up in my lounge while we were out getting bits. I never agreed to that, I thought they would ask whose house is it.

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ChristmasGrinch24 · 12/12/2024 18:38

The dietician has pulled their care their side, and said I need to inform district nurses tomorrow to do another assessment via hospice as apparently that's what usually happens once dietician says there's no way forward with them.

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IAmTooOldFor · 12/12/2024 17:57

ChristmasGrinch24 · 12/12/2024 15:22

Sorry I can't quote because it won't let me on the app.
I've told DP if he doesn't put her in a care home I'm gone I'm taking the kids and I'm gone forever. I've told his sister that I'm stuck playing piggy in the middle and that this is disgraceful putting this all onto me knowing I'm disabled & have two disabled kids who are getting upset seeing their nan die her reply was "yes even the adults are getting upset it is what it is."
So yeah, guys I'm trying my hardest im sick of this shit.

Well done 👏 👏 👏. You are important. No one is advocating for you x

Uricon2 · 12/12/2024 17:50

From updates, the only real solution for you is to leave with your kids and go elsewhere, because from stupidity/grief/intransigence/whatever you are getting nowhere with your husband and SIL.

I feel extremely sorry for the dying woman in the middle of this, above everyone else, because she is being failed horribly by seemingly practically everyone involved.

ETA a safeguarding referral to social services would not in my view be uncalled for, for her, not anyone else.

SheilaFentiman · 12/12/2024 17:30

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 12/12/2024 17:05

@ChristmasGrinch24 is this your house or your dp's house??? throw her out!! call the police to eject her or charge her for breech of the peace or assault if necessary!!

Edited

OP has previously said it is a rental and given she and DP have two kids, I presume they have a joint lease. So how is she supposed to throw SIL out and what do you think the police will do if one person living in the house wants SIL to be there and SIL is not breaching the peace in any way.

What is the point of these outlandish comments?

AInightingale · 12/12/2024 17:09

@allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld the last thing the OP wants, it seems, is to bring her MIL to A&E and have her languish there for hours, days even. And yes the SIL sounds impossible, but bringing the police in is hardly going to help matters!

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 12/12/2024 17:05

@ChristmasGrinch24 is this your house or your dp's house??? throw her out!! call the police to eject her or charge her for breech of the peace or assault if necessary!!

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 12/12/2024 17:03

@ChristmasGrinch24 throw your sil out of your house!! cheeky lazy barsteward!!! your partner needs to take the bull by the horns before your whole family falls apart!! she needs to be taken to hospital where they will find a bed for her!!!! you dont seem to realise that they always always always manage to find beds in these circumstances. you are not even getting help in the community!!!!

CandyMaker · 12/12/2024 16:19

District nurse has said she is not eligible for daily visits, even if living at home. She will not yet meet the criteria for drugs that are given in the last few days.

SheilaFentiman · 12/12/2024 16:14

greylemons · 12/12/2024 16:12

Tramadol and morphine are not the correct drugs for her now. She needs professional help probably a syringe driver. So cruel, please get help.

I am not sure of your background, but OP won't have prescribed these herself, so why do you say they aren't the right drugs? GP and district nurse are aware of the situation.

greylemons · 12/12/2024 16:12

Tramadol and morphine are not the correct drugs for her now. She needs professional help probably a syringe driver. So cruel, please get help.

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