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So bloody exhausted waiting for someone to die 4

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StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 25/11/2024 10:14

continuing from our last thread

www.mumsnet.com/talk/elderly_parents/5036546-so-bloody-exhausted-waiting-for-someone-to-die-3?page=40&reply=140073671

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PermanentTemporary · 15/12/2024 11:41

God that's really awful Radio. Yes its not as if any of us were sitting around with nothing to do when this tsunami rolled in.

Radionowhere · 15/12/2024 11:13

Yes @PermanentTemporary he probably is. He needs to step back a bit. Unfortunately he's very rigid in his thinking, there's a right way to do things and that is the way it will be done. I think he's being completely OTT on this. MIL, at this moment in time, doesn't need constant monitoring. She's really pretty good just now. But his mind is made up.

I'm being stubborn by not rolling up my sleeves and mucking in with him, he's used to me doing the bulk of the drudgery, to the point that of course he doesn't realise the burden of it all that already sits with me.

Maybe I need to tow the line but I think we'll both crack then. There's a degree of self preservation but also a family, a home and a job to deal with. My life was already full on before this.

Have had a horrible few days. He took his mother to an appointment on Friday and forgot her medication, phoned me to go and get it, I was at work at the time. Anyway, I took longer to get it than he wanted and he was furious, shouting at me, on speaker in the car with his mother sat beside him. He'd bloody forgotten the damn thing, not me. Just so hurtful being spoken to like that, and his mother hearing all of it. Not sure how much more of this I can take. I know it's stress but I really dislike him just now.

PermanentTemporary · 15/12/2024 09:42

@Radionowhere that's really tough. He sounds close to cracking up and that can't be easy on you either. Is there anyone else involved?

How are you doing @Guineapiggiesmalls?

@NefretForth I'll confess to a craven relief that my DM can't speak much. Before her stroke she was cognitively declining and unhappy and conversation with her was getting increasingly draining. I hope you can treat yourself to a nice time after the visit. I need to go right now but am putting it off...

CaveMum · 15/12/2024 09:42

Hugs and strong cups of Brew for everyone.

I was supposed to be visiting my parents this weekend but youngest DC has had a flu-like bug all week (poor soul has been wiped out by it, barely able to get out of bed and eaten very little) thankfully he’s on the mend but as both my parents are CEV they decided they’d rather not risk me bringing anything into the house.

NefretForth · 15/12/2024 09:27

And hugs from me too. Bracing myself to visit MIL - she’s so unhappy and every time we see her she begs us to take her home. I never realised until she declined that loss of capacity also meant loss of ability to realise you can’t take care of yourself. She’s bed bound and can’t even hold a cup any more,the home is bringing her tea in a sippy cup. I could howl (but can’t to DH because it’s so much worse for him, so I come on here instead).

TomatoPotato · 15/12/2024 08:46

A heartfelt hug for everyone on here. It’s grim and getting grimmer.

Kettricken · 14/12/2024 23:56

My FIL has finally been told by a consultant this week that his lungs are shot from this chronic infection and COPD. And while there are treatments to relieve his breathlessness he’s not going to get better. We all knew this but it seems he has somehow been thinking that there was a cure out there. He’s going to have oxygen at home now and small morphine doses for the shortness of breath. The gold standard framework has been mentioned but I don’t know what that means in practical terms or how long he’s got left. MIL knows this will be his last Christmas, although in September she didn’t think he’d make it to this Christmas so who knows. Does anyone have experience with the gold standard framework? MIL doesn’t have a lot of confidence in their GP surgery but the hospital consultants and community respiratory nurses are very good.

Radionowhere · 14/12/2024 23:04

DH in a foul mood. I'm not being supportive enough of him in his all consuming caring. I have no more to give. I think he resents the position he's found himself in but can never admit he doesn't want to be spending this time with his mother, even to himself. So much easier just to start stupid arguments with me.
He's decided that his mother must not be alone for more than 15 minutes during waking hours as longer than that may mean she has to use the commode. She is unable to get herself to the toilet but can still stand and transfer. Anyway, that's his life now. Personally I think using a commode occasionally is not the end of the world, but, no, we must keep her dignity. While everyone else exists in stress and misery. She's significantly better these last weeks. This may go on for many months. Total madness.

Guineapiggiesmalls · 13/12/2024 13:46

Notjoyous · 13/12/2024 12:50

@Guineapiggiesmalls I never post, usually just lurk but my heart goes out to you. My mum has a terminal primary brain tumour and its utterly soul destroying a times.

If you are under hospice and have been given just in case medicine, I am assuming your mum has been given a short prognosis. Have you explored applying for fast track CHC funding? It means NHS will fund care for your mother and she will get longer carer visits (about 2.5 hours in total day) than if carers are provided through your local authority. Your hospice should be able to apply for you and its usually approved within 48 hours.

Sorry if I've got it wrong. Just no one told me about NHS funded care when we were told my mum's brain tumour was terminal and it has made a huge difference.

Thank you. The hospice were out this week, I need to chase this up. Having to do all the care between me and my aunts is soul destroying. Mum is less mobile than she was two weeks ago, but when I try and mention hospice she just says ‘whatever you want’ and clearly doesn’t want to discuss it. Our prognosis is 2.5 months median but it’s complicated because they couldn’t do a biopsy (because of other health conditions) and so it’s all speculative. I’m scared this could go on for months on end, and not sure how we’d all cope.

Notjoyous · 13/12/2024 12:50

Guineapiggiesmalls · 09/12/2024 17:21

We had the hospice ladies out to visit today, so no avoiding the ‘journey’ we’re on now… I wasn’t there, but my aunt seems to think they’ll make thing a lot easier on us which is a relief.

Definitely understand the struggle of trying to keep things happy at this time of year when you’ve little kids, we put our tree up last night (despite me absolutely not wanting to). But it on the other hand it feels like we’ve got the distraction of Christmas, and come new year things might look a lot more bleak.

@Guineapiggiesmalls I never post, usually just lurk but my heart goes out to you. My mum has a terminal primary brain tumour and its utterly soul destroying a times.

If you are under hospice and have been given just in case medicine, I am assuming your mum has been given a short prognosis. Have you explored applying for fast track CHC funding? It means NHS will fund care for your mother and she will get longer carer visits (about 2.5 hours in total day) than if carers are provided through your local authority. Your hospice should be able to apply for you and its usually approved within 48 hours.

Sorry if I've got it wrong. Just no one told me about NHS funded care when we were told my mum's brain tumour was terminal and it has made a huge difference.

AInightingale · 13/12/2024 08:30

Your dad sounds like a right trooper @brittanyfairies and I'm glad he is receiving good care where he is. Hope he enjoys his beer.

brittanyfairies · 13/12/2024 07:03

Good morning, sadly I'm joining you. My DF was admitted to hospital with pneumonia and heart failure in the middle of November, today he is being sent to a nursing home for end of life care, all treatment was stopped yesterday.

All the stress is falling on my sister who is the only one of my siblings in the UK, my brother and myself are overseas. Dad did want to go home to die and my poor sister was trying her best to sort this but it would have been a massive impact on her life and mum is no use and in fact seems to be trying to manipulate my sister into running around after her, so he's off to a very nice nursing home today.

His heart is failing, he lost the ability to swallow but refused a feeding tube, so his lungs are now filling up with everything he eats. Now that he's not on a liquid diet he's scoffing cakes and has asked my sister to bring in beer for his Sunday dinner. My brother and I FaceTimed yesterday and he just kept saying how marvellous it was that he had all three of us together, he was really delighted.

Durham and Darlington Health Trust have been very good and he was in rehabilitation in Sedgefield for a week and the staff have been truly amazing, they had already arranged funding for him before they told us that he was being moved out to a home, it's removed so much stress from the family.

As a family this is the worse time for us but we have all laughed so much together, I was fortunate enough to get home for a week last week and spent a lot of time in the hospital with dad, these will be the memories I have when he leaves us, we all had such a good time together - my sister and I seemed to revert to being naughty teenagers😀

Thank you all for reading, I'm alone here so it's nice to have somewhere to talk.

Tara336 · 09/12/2024 17:31

We had a call.today DF found on the floor of his room at the home, no injuries but they said he can walk a few steps with assistance, he was walking ok last time I saw him all be it slowly and with his walker. I am taking a turn to visit Christmas Day I don't know if he will be with us next Christmas but if I'm honest I didn't expect he would this year

Guineapiggiesmalls · 09/12/2024 17:21

We had the hospice ladies out to visit today, so no avoiding the ‘journey’ we’re on now… I wasn’t there, but my aunt seems to think they’ll make thing a lot easier on us which is a relief.

Definitely understand the struggle of trying to keep things happy at this time of year when you’ve little kids, we put our tree up last night (despite me absolutely not wanting to). But it on the other hand it feels like we’ve got the distraction of Christmas, and come new year things might look a lot more bleak.

HoraceGoesBonkers · 09/12/2024 16:56

Checking in. More than 2.5 years since DF went into the nursing home, he's still hanging on in there...

I need to go and see him before Christmas and am not looking forward to it much. If I'm lucky he sleeps and if not he seems to be distressed.

Userccjlnhibibljn8 · 09/12/2024 16:43

Hello, joining in this thread, thank you @TheShellBeach for signposting it to me. I've read some posts, but not the whole thread, so apologies if I get things wrong. 2024 has been a spectacularly crap year, as I have lost my husband in complicated circumstanes and now I am dealing with losing my father.
My 93 year old father has Parkinson's and has been in hospital for the last 4 weeks, to be honest for not much of a reason, but once he was there it has proved a challenge to get him out. However I hope he on his way to a care home in the next few days. I realise I have spend such a long time on tenterhooks with every call from my parents, and now I really have the feeling that I have lost who he was. He still has capacity, and both my mother and I believe he is shutting down mentally. He told me that when he ended up having to put his father in a home almost 40 years ago (he had some form of dementia) his father never spoke to him again, and I fear this will happen to me, so on one side I almost hope the call will come announcing that he is dead, but on the other, that somehow I will get a bit of him back again when he gets out of the hospital environment. So much of life feels on hold at the moment.

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 08/12/2024 19:13

@Guineapiggiesmalls deffo didn't think you were being insensitive x

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AgitatedGoose · 08/12/2024 13:11

Definitely not insensitive. I’m exhausted with it all particularly as my step dad now seems incapable of sorting anything out and it’s all down to me. I’m absolutely dreading Christmas as I’ve no alternative other than to spend the holiday period with him because he’d be on his own otherwise. I’ve even had to use precious annual leave from work to do this. He goes on about money all the time yet he’s saving £££ every month.

TheShellBeach · 08/12/2024 12:09

I’m sorry if me saying that came across as insensitive, it definitely wasn’t intended that way. I can’t imagine how rough it must be living this for nearly five years.

@Guineapiggiesmalls I'm pretty sure that @StiffyByngsDogBartholomew didn't think you were being insensitive. She was just remarking that we literally don't have a choice, and that not having a choice makes our lives very difficult.

This thread is for venting those feelings and supporting each other through it. You're in the right place, and we understand what you're going through with your mum. How is she today?

TomatoPotato · 08/12/2024 09:55

Not insensitive at all. This is what this thread is for.

I was out at a drinks party last night and was chatting with a guy (school dad) who I’ve known for 10 years but haven’t seen for a while. He was tipsy and slightly agitated and his first words were basically forgive me but my mother has just died after 7 years of dementia. We talked about the emotional toll on the family and the difficulties of looking after aging parents coupled with kids still at school. So even though he was relieved, he was clearly in distress. We’re all heading for the same rollercoaster of emotions, but we’re in different theme parks IYSWIM.

Guineapiggiesmalls · 08/12/2024 00:37

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 08/12/2024 00:20

You go on because you don't have a choice and because you don't know at the time just how much longer it will go on for.
if someone had told me in 2020 that mum would still be here seeing in 2025 I think I would have had a meltdown.

I’m sorry if me saying that came across as insensitive, it definitely wasn’t intended that way. I can’t imagine how rough it must be living this for nearly five years. I feel like I’ve been on edge constantly for the last two months and even that has been overwhelming.

Although I’ve lost a lot of family, it’s always been in hospital so the idea of being at home and it being long and drawn-out is alien to me.

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 08/12/2024 00:20

Guineapiggiesmalls · 07/12/2024 18:48

Thank you.

The district nurse dropped off the emergency bag of drugs earlier, which is reassuring but makes me wonder if they think death is closer than we realise. Mum seems to have rallied today, but is struggling to walk and is very forgetful.

I truly don’t know how people manage years of this. The anticipatory grief and the pressure of caring is exhausting.

You go on because you don't have a choice and because you don't know at the time just how much longer it will go on for.
if someone had told me in 2020 that mum would still be here seeing in 2025 I think I would have had a meltdown.

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PermanentTemporary · 07/12/2024 22:16

@Guineapiggiesmalls I hope between you you've got some time off work. Unbelievably hard time for you.

TheShellBeach · 07/12/2024 19:06

I truly don’t know how people manage years of this. The anticipatory grief and the pressure of caring is exhausting

Yes @Guineapiggiesmalls it is very, very draining.

Can you get help from the home hospice team?

Guineapiggiesmalls · 07/12/2024 18:48

Thank you.

The district nurse dropped off the emergency bag of drugs earlier, which is reassuring but makes me wonder if they think death is closer than we realise. Mum seems to have rallied today, but is struggling to walk and is very forgetful.

I truly don’t know how people manage years of this. The anticipatory grief and the pressure of caring is exhausting.