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I'm exhausted by my Dad

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TeeNoG · 23/11/2024 16:54

My Dad will be 80 soon, and is a widower of 7 years. For the past 7 years I have been his main contact and sounding board.

The problem with this arrangement is my Dad's almost permanent anger. He's angry about the news, the world, and spends 80% of his time watching the news or people on YouTube. This culminates in massive rants whenever I make my daily phone call. Today he veered from the Jag ad to train drivers to iHT to GP's, wall in about 5 minutes. This is exhausting in itself but then it moves onto me. I don't know about anything in the world (I do), I'm an ignorant lefty (I'm not), i dont stand for anything (I do).

I'm quite politically aware, but my views are my own and i don't want to debate them daily over the phone with an angry man. i don't want to be insulted. I don't want to live my life thinking everything is awful.

Today I've hung up on him after the biggest attack in a while. I just don't need it. I don't know what I'm asking for here or what should happen next but it has to change. Anyone in or been in a similar boat?

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TeeNoG · 23/11/2024 20:09

@BlueLegume thank you, I will take a look.

@EmotionalBlackmail - I'm positive he saves it all for me. One of my siblings doesn't speak to him and the other phones weekly. He doesn't have anyone else really. And yes, mine too cultivates this other image - I can tell instantly if there's a neighbour or something visiting when he answers the phone because he has an entirely different voice!

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wyeaye · 23/11/2024 19:55

Yes my Dad loves to rant and rave when I see him. I'm also his sounding board and I hate it.

He doesn't insult me but fuck it's tedious. He's really not interested in anything I have to say and will give me a 2 minute window (max) to talk about what's going on in my life. But apparently it's ok for him to monologue at me for an hour.

I'm low contact as a result.

graduand · 23/11/2024 19:52

I had the same with a relative. I finally decided about a year ago to tell him exactly how his rants made me feel. There was a long silence (it was during a phone call), then the conversation resumed along ordinary and pleasant lines. He hasn't ranted at me since. The world didn't end (I thought by telling him how I felt, I would kick off World War 3. I didn't). I've thought a lot about this since, and concluded that bullies need to be told. He had been bullying me into listening to his stream of consciousness. And now life is much more normal.
I commend this approach! If your father is different from my relative, and WW3 ensues, just block him.

BlueLegume · 23/11/2024 19:51

@TeeNoG FYI i don’t always follow the advice when emotionally I am overwhelmed but it helps

BlueLegume · 23/11/2024 19:50

@TeeNoG hello - there’s so much excellent advice based on real life experiences on here. You will get the naysayers who expect if you don’t drop everything that’s means you don’t care - ignore them.

Have a read …the toolbox and glossary are really good…https://outofthefog.website

Out of the FOG | Personality Disorders, Narcissism, NPD, BPD

Helping family members & loved-ones of people who suffer from personality disorders.

https://outofthefog.website

EmotionalBlackmail · 23/11/2024 19:41

Do you think he'd do it to other people or are you the main audience?

Mine cultivates an image of being fun and witty etc and saves all the negativity especially for me.

TeeNoG · 23/11/2024 18:56

Thank you all. I have tried the grey rock technique (if that's what it's called) and honestly it makes him worse, it just winds him up.

I think the answer is to be firm - I have started and suspect he is deliberately pushing back at this. I would also like to call him less often, but truth be told I feel a lot of guilt for this. I don't want him to be lonely and unhappy but also know I can't solve that for him, and it's not my job to. Eurgh it's just so bloody hard.

Thank you for all of your comments, I definitely feel less alone now.

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JohnLapsleyParlabane · 23/11/2024 18:43

Oh I am right there with you. It's only been two and a bit years for us but the amount of insulation that my late mum provided has become very evident. I spent the first 18 months on a minimum of three points of contact per day at least one of them being a phone call or video call. Over the last year I've managed to bring it down to text or FB Messenger and only speaking to him about once a week and during those calls I basically just say "uh huh ", "mmm hmm" and "is that so", on repeat for an hour.
What has allowed me to do this is therapy and coming to the realization that I am neither his mother nor his wife and also that I get to hold boundaries that I set regarding what I consider to be acceptable ways of speaking to me and about me.
It's so hard. Sending you all the solidarity I can.

countrygirl99 · 23/11/2024 18:42

mathanxiety · 23/11/2024 18:36

@countrygirl99
You need to get her assessed for alzheimers.

She was diagnosed 4 years ago but it's pretty common in alzheimer's to forget you've been diagnosed and to forget all the issues you have so you think you are fine and everyone else is wrong.

Frostycottagegarden · 23/11/2024 18:40

Took me years to realise that I could just tell my mum to stop complaining and that I didn't need to hear it. She still tries, but I don't humour her any more.

At her worst, I get calls 8 times a day. I have no told her I'm not picking up the phone during working hours, but she still leaves messages and texts. I've had 5 calls and 2 texts so far today. I've taken 2 of them.

Difference is that it doesn't bother me any more.

OP, just tell your dad you call for a light chat, and you're not prepared to listen to his rants anymore. What's the worst thing that can happen?

mathanxiety · 23/11/2024 18:36

@countrygirl99
You need to get her assessed for alzheimers.

mathanxiety · 23/11/2024 18:35

Send him a card with your second from last paragraph written verbatim in it. ('I don't want to be insulted', etc).

Tell him also that you expect phone conversations from now on to be civil, cordial, and involve pleasant topics, and if he starts on his usual harangues and rants you will hang up on him and keep doing so until he remembers his manners.

Life is too short for that kind of depressing boorishness.

EmotionalBlackmail · 23/11/2024 18:24

Could you cut down on the phone calls? Daily is a LOT! I speak to mine once a week and use the grey rock technique which helps a lot.

countrygirl99 · 23/11/2024 17:43

Not the same but the last few visits to my mum I've been called a liar. I took her to a hospital appointment to have a 7 day heart monitor fitted when I went to collect it to take back the appointment hadn't happened, she'd never seen a cardiologist or had a heart monitor and got really angry. This week it was the last 2 Christmas's since dad died. She said they were dreadful because she'd been all alone snd none had even visited. Except I'd done a 2 hour round trip to pick her up and she'd spent Christmas with us. The first year she stayed over but she couldn't cope with our stairs so the 2nd year it was 2 2 hour round trips on Christmas Day. That one was particularly difficult because it was only a couple of weeks after MILs funeral and she kept asking DH how his mum was. All could think was " yes it was dreadful but not for the reason you gave". When I pointed out she'd come to us I got told I was wrong.

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