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Deprivation of Assets ??

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moonsquirrel · 12/11/2024 13:52

I would be grateful if you could clarify if this situation might be viewed as deprivation of assets by the Local Authority.

A bit of background:
My widowed mother (86 years) had to sell the family house to buy an accessible flat in Aug 2021 as her mobility was suffering. The house title deeds were jointly in my mother and my brother's names as had been the case from purchase some 38 years prior, but my brother, having fallen out with my mother at the end of 2020, wanted no interest in the proceeds of the house sale and agreed that the whole £180,000 was all paid to her. She bought the Flat in Oct 2021 for £96,000 and gave me my brother’s half share, £90,000 in Jan 2022. I put the £90,000 towards a rental property to help provide income for our household (me, my wife and two teenage sons) as our self-employment had suffered during and after the Covid restrictions.

My mother's mobility has deteriorated and may have to go into residential care in the near future, which would mean selling her flat to pay for it & would then be subject to a financial review by the Local Authority, would the £90,000 that was my brother’s share be included as part of her assets or would this be treated as separate?

Question:
Will the £90,000 which we have invested in our rental property have to be handed back to pay for any ongoing care for my mother?

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MereDintofPandiculation · 12/11/2024 19:43

When she needed nursing home care, it was all fine and only her flat was taken into consideration as more than 7 years had gone by. Local authorities can look back as far as they wish. There is no 7 year rule.

(There is a rule saying gifts made more than 7 years ago aren’t counted as part of the estate for IHT purposes, but that’s a separate unrelated issue)

thenightsky · 12/11/2024 18:36

We did a similar thing. When my dad died in 2002, my mum put the house into half her name and a quarter each for me and my sister.

She then sold up to buy an accessible flat with on site warden in 2012 which was less than the value of half of the house, which meant my sister and I could take our quarter shares in 2012.

When she needed nursing home care, it was all fine and only her flat was taken into consideration as more than 7 years had gone by.

Edited for typo

moonsquirrel · 12/11/2024 18:08

Thanks, the house was in both names when sold but he didn't want any of it. You're right I'll need to seek expert legal advice on this.

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Canalboat · 12/11/2024 14:18

I think you might be as well to get some legal advice on this if it comes to it. Was house in both their names when sold?

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 12/11/2024 14:09

It depends on how the money came to you, if you got it from the sale directly you should be ok but questions will be asked if it came via your mother so for example your brother gave it to you mum then she passed it to you.

catofglory · 12/11/2024 14:05

If there is clear documentation that your mother only owned half the house, then it isn't Social Service's business what happened to your brother's share.

You don't have to worry about this until your mother's savings go below £23k, as that is the point when the Local Authority step in to take on the funding. You will then have to fill in a lengthy form about her financial status for SS, so answer the questions honestly but don't give them any information they have not actually asked for.

DurinsBane · 12/11/2024 13:55

I would assume not, as it was legally your brothers money that you received?

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