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Mum needs a nursing home after car accident

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GlassLampshades · 14/09/2024 08:20

Hello,

Can anyone point me in the direction of amazing resources, podcasts, websites etc where I can start to understand this whole new world that I've just arrived into?

My mum is late sixties and was in a car accident at the beginning of the year. She has a brain injury as a result, is currently in a specialist unit, and has been told she needs to leave as they can't do any more for her.

They advise a nursing home at mum's cost. My mum is bed bound due to the brain injury which has caused paralysis. She can use her hands and arms and can sometimes pull herself up to sit, but requires 2 / 3 people to move her. She does not use the toilet and only moves out of bed with a hoist to a chair where she sits for a few hours a day. She can hold a simple conversation but has clear cognitive issues, doesn't seem to grasp her situation, no short term memory.

I need to quickly understand how we go about financing this. My dad is also late sixties and in the family home in good health. The house is wholly unsuitable (a crumbling victorian terrace) for him and he would like to sell in the near future. The social worker says a decision needs to be made on Monday.

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stopringingme · 14/09/2024 09:32

@GlassLampshades

Tell the social worker that they will need to either help or wait until you can sort this out.

They can not discharge your Mum without something in place.

Does insurance from the time of the accident cover anything - either hers if she was driving or anyone else involved as her life has been changed so completely.

Wishing you and your family best wishes 💐

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 14/09/2024 09:02

Your poor mum, and your family what a horrible situation.

You have some difficult weeks ahead of you.
I would not allow her to come home. That is the optimum situation as far as the social worker is concerned. They'll install a few bits and pieces, give the minimum of external care and your family including your aged father will be expected to do everything else. The reality of this is so so difficult.

If she stays put in hospital they will HAVE to find a suitable solution in order to release the bed. It's a perennial problem and I sympathise with hospital staff but they also know that this is true.

What I don't know is the standard of care /quality of the home that will be found. I think that will be your hardest battle particularly as it may not be geographically easy to visit. It may be worth seeing if there are any reciprocal arrangements with ROI if you are near the border.

But even if you wanted to, you couldn't sell your parents house and release enough equity to fix this quickly. Your father may live for a very long time yet and may have his own care needs.

sleeptight1 · 14/09/2024 08:47

"They advise a nursing home at Mum's cost". Who is they? The social worker?
Have they financially assessed your Mum and her assets?

sleeptight1 · 14/09/2024 08:43

I don't live in NI but worked fora short period of time in Neuro Rehab working with people who had brain and spinal injuries. Many of the patients had life changing injuries. As part of discharge planning, Occupational Therapists would visit the patient's home and assess if any adaptations or equipment were needed for a safe dicharge. Sometimes equipment could facilitate safe discharge sometimes not and alternative accommodation would be needed to be arranged with a social worker. Remember it is not yours or even your Dad's financial responsibility to provide ongoing care for your Mum. The Social worker would need to do a financial assessment to ascertain your Mums (NOT your Dads as well) financial position. I have a questionmark whether your Mum may be able to access NHS Continuing healthcare due to the accident? No expert though.

The thing that jumps out at me is the social worker telling you she needs an answer by Monday? My response would be that she may want one, but she won't be getting one.

Where are the health professionals involved? There would be an MDT involved with your mum in hospital made up of Doctors, OT, Physios etc who would be involved in discharge planning.
For example, the OT would assess your Mum's cognitive and physical function and outline her difficulties (and strengths). Only from a thorough OT assessment would they be able to say what your mums living environment needs to look like and what support/care she needs. Your Dad needs a home and they cannot force him to sell his home to pay for your mums care.

StrongandNorthern · 14/09/2024 08:40

I would say the most important thing is to ask for a Continuing Healthcare Assessment. This is NHS funding. Don't allow people to rush you! You need time to research your options - as you say -it's all new territory.

Velvian · 14/09/2024 08:34

Does she have savings, capital or assets outside of her and your dad's home?

I guess she has had a Continuing Health care Assessment, as you mentioned she has nursing needs.

Henleylady · 14/09/2024 08:33

That is really helpful. Be careful what advice you get as care provision and financial support is really different across the UK.

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/northern-ireland/information-advice/care/find-care-support/ I would call a NI advice line on Monday - Age UK has one for example. Even if they can't help they should be able to signpost to others.

A quick Google has this - your mum may meet this...

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/northern-ireland/information-advice/health-wellbeing/health-services/nhs-continuing-healthcare/

Your social worker is unreasonable giving you a Monday deadline and no information about the support that is available.

Care is complex and you've got to know the system and also what to know what to ask about.

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/northern-ireland/information-advice/care/find-care-support

GreenSedan · 14/09/2024 08:30

Im so sorry about your mum. What an awful thing to happen.

I'm suprised that the hospital doesn't have someone liaising with you to help with next steps. If they are leaving it entirely up to you, I would start by contacting your local adult services team. They will be able to advise amd you'll soon become an expert. I hope you find somewhere that is a good fit for you all.

GlassLampshades · 14/09/2024 08:26

NI

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Henleylady · 14/09/2024 08:25

What country in the UK are you in?

GlassLampshades · 14/09/2024 08:24

I think the nursing element might be.

I should have said as well there is a DOL in place. I don't really know if that is relevant.

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ratherbesurfing · 14/09/2024 08:21

I’m no expert, but surely she needs nursing care with that level of issues. In which case it would be at least partially funded wouldn’t it?

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