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Whyismycatanasshat · 05/09/2024 23:42

I need to ask if anyone knows if there’s a way to stop my dying parent coming home to die instead of going to a hospice.

Long story. My parent is dying of cancer which has spread and has been hospitalised, waiting for a hospice bed.
Parent has always, always said they wanted to die at a hospice. 100% not at home. Even pre-cancer.

Today my other parent was informed that dying parent wants to come home and care would be organised.

Dying parent says they’ve changed their mind.
Hospital say dying parent has capacity and has rights to change their mind.

We have questioned capacity as we think it’s lacking and has been for some time but hospital say they have capacity.

Hospital say hospital bed will be provided: carers will be there 24hrs a day.
Other parent (early 80s) does not feel they want dying parent at home.
They have expressed feelings of vulnerability about having carers (“I’m worried about having strangers in the house with me. It frightens me a little.”) and knows from my DBs passing that the 24hr care at house doesn’t always happen as planned - there was several no show carers. Which was horrid.
Also, they feel they will have no place for respite themselves - they are struggling mentally at the moment - as dying parent will be in the living room of the 2 up 2 down house and all surviving children are at least 2hrs away.

Is there any way I can help my parents in this horrible situation?
As awful as it sounds, I think a hospice is the right place for dying parent and other parent needs to be considered too.

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EmotionalBlackmail · 14/09/2024 09:21

So sorry for your loss and hope the other parent is doing ok. Are they still in hospital?

manysausages · 13/09/2024 18:51

I’m so sorry - hope the end was peaceful

longestlurkerever · 12/09/2024 22:06

So very sorry for your loss. I hope this thread didn't cause you more pain. I am glad your parents suffering wasn't prolonged further and hope your other parent finds peace.

WeightLossGoal2024 · 12/09/2024 20:35

So sorry for your loss FlowersFlowersFlowers

KerryBlues · 12/09/2024 11:29

So sorry, op.

Bectoria2006 · 12/09/2024 10:34

So sorry for your loss OP

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 12/09/2024 09:41

Sorry for your loss OP.

LifeInAHamsterWheel · 12/09/2024 09:14

So sorry for your loss @Whyismycatanasshat and I hope your surviving parent is recovering. Mind yourself Flowers

Grateful10QLord · 12/09/2024 08:05

So sorry, @Whyismycatanasshat . May their soul rest in peace.
How is your other parent? Discharged? Getting better? How are you?
Can't imagine what you must be going through. Sending you strength.

fizzymizzy · 12/09/2024 07:36

I'm sorry for your loss OP

nunsflipflop · 12/09/2024 01:08

So very sorry for your loss xx

funnelfan · 11/09/2024 23:39

So sorry @Whyismycatanasshat, may their memory be a blessing. Hope your other parent is doing ok.

Runnerinthenight · 11/09/2024 22:40

Whyismycatanasshat · 11/09/2024 21:09

To draw this somewhat decisive discussion to a close, my parent passed away on late yesterday.

We never had to fight a battle, the dying parent never mentioned coming home from the next day onwards but asked when they would be going to the hospice.

A wonderful place to leave us all from.

I'm so sorry for your loss. Maybe it was for the best that events took over. Mum wanted to come home but I am relieved that she didn't manage it, because it would have been totally the wrong thing to do. She was waiting for a bed in a hospice but didn't make it out of hospital. At least there, she had proper nursing care, pain relief etc whereas hospice care where she lived was at best patchy.

I hope your remaining parent will be ok, and you too of course. It's shit xx

FiveShelties · 11/09/2024 22:29

So sorry @Whyismycatanasshat take care of yourself.

Silvers11 · 11/09/2024 22:15

So sorry for your loss @Whyismycatanasshat but pleased that you have been spared more angst about how to go about sorting the issues. I hope your other parent recovers and gets home soon, although that will bring other difficulties with it. Sending hugs 💐💐

AllHisCaterpillarFriends · 11/09/2024 22:05

Sending you love. Take care of yourself.

GildedRage · 11/09/2024 21:36

my condolences @Whyismycatanasshat

Abra1t · 11/09/2024 21:33

Whyismycatanasshat · 11/09/2024 21:09

To draw this somewhat decisive discussion to a close, my parent passed away on late yesterday.

We never had to fight a battle, the dying parent never mentioned coming home from the next day onwards but asked when they would be going to the hospice.

A wonderful place to leave us all from.

I’m both sorry for your loss and relieved that you have been spared more heartache and stress. Flowers

saraclara · 11/09/2024 21:28

I hope your parent's death was peaceful, @Whyismycatanasshat and that the other parent is coping, and recovering from their own ill health.

I imagine that things will remain stressful in a different kind of way, and wish you well with the next few weeks and months.

beetr00 · 11/09/2024 21:24

That was a tough call for everyone concerned @Whyismycatanasshat

Thinking of you and your Mum 💐

Sohereitissuddenly · 11/09/2024 21:21

@Whyismycatanasshat Flowers my condolences x

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 11/09/2024 21:12

So sorry to hear that OP. I hope your surviving parent is recovering. 💐

Whyismycatanasshat · 11/09/2024 21:09

To draw this somewhat decisive discussion to a close, my parent passed away on late yesterday.

We never had to fight a battle, the dying parent never mentioned coming home from the next day onwards but asked when they would be going to the hospice.

A wonderful place to leave us all from.

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MontyDonsBlueScarf · 10/09/2024 08:01

Just to add. I'm not suggesting that death has to be like that, but you do need to be realistic about whether it's likely that your loved one will need a lot of support, and if so how easily and quickly it's available in your location. I'm sorry if I added to anyone's worries.

untiltheend · 09/09/2024 21:18

SockFluffInTheBath · 09/09/2024 19:29

This. Anyone who thinks a death at home is a comfortable, peaceful, family moment has clearly never nursed someone to the end.

of course it can be peaceful and calm, my hospice supported many people to die at home … but having equal access to high quality palliative care is a postcode lottery and it has to be something the family want to do ,not for it to be enforced or done only out of duty.