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AIBU to tell someone they will be dead in 15 years so relax *MNHQ ADDING CONTENT WARNING FOR TOXIC PARENTING DISCUSSION*

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pallindromeemordnillap · 08/08/2024 01:55

My mother is a complex person. Very loving in some ways but very destructive in others.

She literally will lambast and chastise over spilt WATER not just milk. Making a mountain out of a molehill over very little things is her norm. So much so I remember bursting out crying at a friends house when I dropped a spoon. I’ll never forget the dissonance I felt when the mum gave me a hug and told me not to sweat the small stuff.

Anyway my mum was having a go at my dad for not putting a food clip on the cereal box and I just told her to “give it a rest with the negativity as statistically speaking you are likely to be dead in 15 years and some dry cereal will be of absolutely no consequence”. Normally my mum would retort back but she was clearly gobsmacked.

Dh told me I was a bit nasty for bringing up her death.

AIBU?

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earlymorningcurlewcall · 08/08/2024 06:18

That's the sort of thing I'd say to my mother. I wouldn't say it in frustration or anger, but then again my mum didn't make dropping a spoon on the ground such a big deal that it'd make me cry when it happened elsewhere.

Oopsithinkyoumeantrachel · 08/08/2024 06:17

You're right that she could have asked more politely but the fact that you were very direct with your retort about when she was likely to die was a bit harsh and the message you were trying to convey was lost.

You could have phrased the same thing slightly differently about life being short and it would have been a little better I think.

I understand your frustration and you probably have put up for so long that you just reacted. Families and people are hard work.

FinalInstructionstotheAudience · 08/08/2024 06:15

Nothing wrong with reminding people of their mortality, particularly when their behaviour is making you want them to experience at your hands!!
Honestly, we all snap at those we love; don't worry

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 08/08/2024 06:14

Garlicfest · 08/08/2024 03:30

Yep ✅ These threads are so strange. Everyone totally ignores OP's description of a mother making her little girl terrified to drop even a teaspoon. Instead, they just go on about the cereal clip.

😬

This.

You can guarantee that if the OP's dad (or whoever) made an extra special effort to remember about the cereal clip, her mum would find something else to chastise him for, because this is her personality.

Nothing will change her at this point, it's baked in and probably already was before the OP was born.

But it's exhausting to live with.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 08/08/2024 06:14

Said exactly the same to my mum. She was worrying about the state of the world and global warming.

Rosesanddaffs · 08/08/2024 06:11

@pallindromeemordnillap my mum must be your mums long lost sister!

I totally see your point, it’s so exhausting to watch and I can relate to your spoon dropping incident.

Mine was a cucumber on her friends floor, I must have been about 9 years old, her reaction was so over the top and she was acting like the world was ending.

I agree with your comment, you weren’t being nasty. You were just trying to put things in perspective for her, all this stressing will do her no good.

IntrepidInterloper · 08/08/2024 06:07

I will pm you.

ImustLearn2Cook · 08/08/2024 06:02

‘Imo there is no issue with saying “please remember to put the clip on”.’

There is when it is the 100th/1000th/1000000th time you have asked that. And your mum is only human.

It might be something trivial to you or your dad but clearly it is important to your mum. How hard is it to show her some consideration and keep the cereal from going stale/attracting ants/cockroaches by putting a clip on?

How much does she do for her husband? How much has she done for you? How many times has she come last while she looks after other people?

Life is short and maybe for the last couple of decades of her life she doesn’t want to eat stale cereal or be continuously replacing it or doing without cereal or continuously asking someone to be thoughtful and put the blasted clip on!

Coatsoff42 · 08/08/2024 05:52

Being reminded of your mortality is not altogether a bad thing. It’s very freeing for some people. I often think we’ll all be dead in 50 years so who cares if I wear whatever to school, or I don’t earn as much money as the next person, or my holidays aren’t as nice etc etc. I don’t think it’s an overly mean thing to have said.

I think for you @pallindromeemordnillap its a useful reminder that both your parents will probably be dead in 10-15 years, so either cherish them while they are around, or let the old memories go and take what happiness and joy you can from their being alive. Chances are they’ll both be dead in less than that and you’ll outlive them and you’ll want a few nice memories. Try not to hold on to the past, you yourself only have a limited time to live too. Don’t let the hurts of the past ruin your own short life if you can.

MoveToParis · 08/08/2024 05:52

Flavabobble · 08/08/2024 01:57

Outright nasty thing to say.

Disagree, and if it help her Mum from ruining everything all the time then it’s a bonus.
We are all going to die. Why choose to let your shit over a cereal clip and worse why think that everyone is going to go along with it?

Freesiabritney · 08/08/2024 05:50

masomenos · 08/08/2024 03:43

I don’t blame you tbh. A childhood spent on edge, worried about dropping a spoon, is no childhood at all. It could ruin a person. She treated you appallingly because of her anxieties, and will now no doubt play the victim. Yes you were blunt, yes it was a horrible thing to say: but honestly in light of the way she was with you, I think it’s fair enough.

And no you won’t be haunted by this fgs 🙄. You didn’t wish her dead. You reminded of her of a statistical probability and gave her perspective. There was nothing false in what you said. If she doesn’t like it, her problem.

I completely agree.

My mother made me anxious my whole childhood, EVERYTHING was a catastrophe, I could do everything right and she would find something to chastise me for. A life constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop has lifelong impacts that I'm still struggling with now.

YANBU

Isitovernow123 · 08/08/2024 05:48

I love this response, regardless of who it is to. Honestly has been lost as we’re all told to be nice to one another.

Living in a house with a someone who is dramatic is so difficult, though bet your dad was impressed (even if he did pay for it after you had left!).

aurynne · 08/08/2024 05:39

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The brutal, nasty answer will make anybody feel awful and will not do anything against that person's worry about small stuff. That was my point. And it may backfire.

Itssamemario · 08/08/2024 05:31

Sounds like you just had enough and didn't express it in the best way. Everyone has their breaking point. I'm sorry your mum is a twat ❤

AngelusBell · 08/08/2024 05:26

IntrepidInterloper · 08/08/2024 02:31

Today is the anniversary of my mother's death. She was often deliberately cruel to me and said so when she was dying, admitting that in her words, she hadn't been much of a mother to me. I could have chosen to be cruel in return, but I didn't. I hugged her and told her she had done her best. I couldn't send her to her grave feeling that guilt...She was the only mother I had, despite her shortcomings.

I couldn't have coped with the guilt of it either, it isn't who I am. Obviously you have your reasons, but as a society we are unkind to our mothers and often hold them to unrealistic standards. I strongly advise you to think carefully about the things you say, they can never be taken back.

Off to name change again.

Very similar situation except it’s been almost four years. We only get one mother and when mine was gone it was like being run over by a truck. Anniversaries are hard 🌹

lazyarse123 · 08/08/2024 05:21

Yanbu how downtrodden must you have been as a child to cry when you dropped a spoon? That's seriously fucked up. Sometimes horrible people just need telling.

Yalta · 08/08/2024 05:15

Outliers · 08/08/2024 04:24

Very horrible thing to say to anyone, but especially the woman that birthed you.

Disgusting statement (imo)

How about your previous mother saying to you after you had eaten a bowl of spaghetti

”I crushed all my sleeping pills up and put them into your food, you will be dead on a few hours. It doesn’t matter you will go to sleep and not wake up”

If stating the truth is disgusting, where does that come on your level of disgust

Yalta · 08/08/2024 05:10

IntrepidInterloper · 08/08/2024 02:31

Today is the anniversary of my mother's death. She was often deliberately cruel to me and said so when she was dying, admitting that in her words, she hadn't been much of a mother to me. I could have chosen to be cruel in return, but I didn't. I hugged her and told her she had done her best. I couldn't send her to her grave feeling that guilt...She was the only mother I had, despite her shortcomings.

I couldn't have coped with the guilt of it either, it isn't who I am. Obviously you have your reasons, but as a society we are unkind to our mothers and often hold them to unrealistic standards. I strongly advise you to think carefully about the things you say, they can never be taken back.

Off to name change again.

What if your mother had driven any children she had away either by suicide or them leaving and never speaking to them again.

All this rhetoric of “she’s the only mother you will have” just shows me that here is someone who doesn’t understand how dangerous a mother can be

Some mothers want to kill their child or involve them in a joint suicide

Some mothers aren’t just cruel they are deadly

ThisDog · 08/08/2024 04:42

Outliers · 08/08/2024 04:24

Very horrible thing to say to anyone, but especially the woman that birthed you.

Disgusting statement (imo)

Nothing to say about her mother's behaviour to her as a child, which sounds like it's continuing?

ThisDog · 08/08/2024 04:41

Has your mum ever said sorry for what she put you through as a child? Have you ever told her how she made you feel? Does your dad ever tell her to stop?

My parents were both like your mum when I was a child. It was very difficult to live with and I was a very anxious child. When I stood my ground as an adult and tried to discuss how their behaviour had affected me, they would minimise and play the victims, especially my mum.

After years of it and lots of other abuse, I had had enough and made the decision to not have them in my life. I told them why and was accused of being nasty. I had a few comments like ones here from other people telling me I would feel guilty. I never have. I figured they didn't so why should I when I hadn't done anything wrong.

After a childhood spent feeling anxious, it took me years to live a normal life. That sort of childhood takes its toll, it's no wonder you put her in her place OP.

Sinderalla · 08/08/2024 04:37

pallindromeemordnillap · 08/08/2024 01:55

My mother is a complex person. Very loving in some ways but very destructive in others.

She literally will lambast and chastise over spilt WATER not just milk. Making a mountain out of a molehill over very little things is her norm. So much so I remember bursting out crying at a friends house when I dropped a spoon. I’ll never forget the dissonance I felt when the mum gave me a hug and told me not to sweat the small stuff.

Anyway my mum was having a go at my dad for not putting a food clip on the cereal box and I just told her to “give it a rest with the negativity as statistically speaking you are likely to be dead in 15 years and some dry cereal will be of absolutely no consequence”. Normally my mum would retort back but she was clearly gobsmacked.

Dh told me I was a bit nasty for bringing up her death.

AIBU?

No, I think that's reasonable. She's your mum, you should be able to say things like that and her know it's an expression.

Outliers · 08/08/2024 04:24

Very horrible thing to say to anyone, but especially the woman that birthed you.

Disgusting statement (imo)

LBFseBrom · 08/08/2024 04:23

pallindromeemordnillap · 08/08/2024 02:08

Imo there is no issue with saying “please remember to put the clip on”.

But after hearing her go on and on I had had enough!

Its just weighing on my heart that I may have reminded her of her mortality

My mother was a bit like yours. She always had a confrontational manner over trivial issues. I did try and tell her but it didn't work.

Your mum won't take any notice of what you blurted out so don't worry. It will have been water off a duck's back. Forget it and move on.

ALunchbox · 08/08/2024 04:16

I'm with you on this one. If anything, I think it wasn't too bad a thing to say. It was just factual really.

LooseEnds · 08/08/2024 04:08

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