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Am I being overly sensitive about this comment?

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Theyearwas1973 · 05/07/2024 10:23

I think maybe that I am but tbh I’m so exhausted from everything in my life that I’m questioning myself.

Quick background.

My parents are elderly (early 80’s). My sister and I both live very close to our parents (we are all in the same village). Dsis lives with her partner and I live with my dh and dc.

Mum has been unwell during the last 6 years. She was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s in 2018. She has heart disease, is bent over with osteoporosis and this year was diagnosed with breast cancer. Mum lives with dad. Mum’s dementia is obviously getting worse but she can drink and feed herself, is mobile, toilets herself and still recognises us etc but is obviously getting worse and will never get better. They have a carer for an hour every morning to help mum shower and dress.

My sister and I help out as much as we can. I help more as I work part time and my dsis works more hours.
I pop in on my parents around 5 days a week and will help them with as much as I can with their day to day living. Tbh, I have done too much over the years but handed some of it over to my sister a few months ago as it was getting too much and I had a small breakdown over the workload and my own health issues which I’m struggling with atm.

My father is not always an easy man, he puts a lot of stumbling blocks in the way and can make our lives quite tricky and says no to a lot of suggestions for things which could make his and our lives easier but I do what I can because of my mum, she was a great mother.
But it is bloody hard work juggling my own life and theirs. Not made any easier by the fact dad has hundreds of thousands in the bank but refuses to pay out for many things, he seems to be from an era where he believes family should help out. As I say, I do all I can for them. My sister goes round about twice a week. One of these days she cleans (sometimes it’s once a week, sometimes once a fortnight). I refuse to clean a) because I despise cleaning and b)I’m not cleaning my parents house when they have £400k sitting in the bank, dad can easily afford a weekly cleaner but refuses.

To give dad a break and stimulation for my mum she goes to a day centre twice a week for afternoon sessions (12-3pm). I make her a packed lunch for these two days (which I pay for myself as dad has never offered to reimburse me). Currently, one of these days my dad takes and collects mum as I’m having counselling atm but when that’s finished in a few weeks I have offered to take her. The other day I usually take or collect her or do both so to give dad a few hours to himself.

So on to the issue which has upset me. This week we had mum’s usual 3 month review with the day centre. I always attend with dad as he likes the support. My sister is never offered to come and that’s her prerogative.

So we were chatting away and the day center carer said to dad that it must be nice for him to have a few hours to himself every week to do his own thing. He replied ‘Well, yes and no. By the time I’ve dropped her off it’s basically time to come back’. He never mentioned that at least one of these days per week I do the dropping off/picking up but I didn’t say anything.
She then said how difficult it must be for him to do everything himself. I gently added, ‘Well, we (dsis and I) do help as much as we can for you, don’t we dad?’. He replied ‘Yes, I have two daughters, one cleans for me and the other (looked at me smirking)….doesn’t!’. (My sister has always been his favourite child and can never do wrong).
I kind of laughed and replied ‘No but I do lots of other things to help you though don’t I?’ He then looked at me and said ‘Pfff, you? Help? What do you do? A few sandwich’s??’.

The lady looked uncomfortable at that remark and I felt so upset. It looked as though I do sod all for them when the truth is that I do everything I can to help my parents as I know my dad struggles to accept my mum’s diagnosis and their future and I hate seeing them both struggle.

I couldn’t help myself, when we came out I turned him and said that comment really hurt me and made me look as though I do nothing to help you and that couldn’t be further from the truth. He replied that I was being too sensitive and it was ‘just a joke’. I said but it’s not a joke, it was personal and hurt. He wouldn’t accept that and said I was being silly. He has form for being sharp tongued and taking the piss out of people, he spent his whole career in a male dominated industry where everyone took the piss out off each other and that mentality has never left him, he still does this to people and he has zero idea how much he hurts people or pisses them off.

Maybe I am being super sensitive but dealing with elderly parents and dementia is bloody hard work and tbh I don’t see it as a joke not at all. And he never seems to appreciate what we do for him, especially anything I do.

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KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 05/07/2024 10:56

He doesn’t have dementia. You are allowed to tell him he’s behaving badly and that as you don’t do anything for him then he won’t notice if you stop.

And stop.

Find ways to help your mum that aren’t about helping him. Take her out, if that’s something she’d enjoy.

Theyearwas1973 · 05/07/2024 10:56

I am always questioning my own insanity these days maksgames

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Theyearwas1973 · 05/07/2024 10:56

SearchBedSocksNearMe · 05/07/2024 10:53

I would be livid to be shown up like that. How insulting after all you do for them! I would take a huge step back - he can hardly complain can he as you apparently do nothing anyway? If he has such a low opinion of you, and is prepared to share it with the professionals involved in his and his wife's care, you may as well live your life to suit yourself.

That’s exactly how I felt, completely shown up. It was such a passive-aggressive comment. The poor carer looked really uncomfortable. I couldn’t concentrate after that either and pretended to check texts on my phone. Luckily the session was coming to an end.

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maksgames · 05/07/2024 10:55

Oh, I definitely think you're not overly sensitive. It's hard to keep in touch with older generation and not to become insane xd

SearchBedSocksNearMe · 05/07/2024 10:53

I would be livid to be shown up like that. How insulting after all you do for them! I would take a huge step back - he can hardly complain can he as you apparently do nothing anyway? If he has such a low opinion of you, and is prepared to share it with the professionals involved in his and his wife's care, you may as well live your life to suit yourself.

Theyearwas1973 · 05/07/2024 10:44

BlueLegume · 05/07/2024 10:41

@Theyearwas1973 you were not over sensitive. He was out of order. Step right back and ‘put your own oxygen mask on first’. So many of us on here muddling through with parents who seem to think we adult children have nothing better to do than run around doing for our elderly, when most of what we do is wrong or criticised. FOG - mentioned on here often is something to read up on Flowers https://outofthefog.website/toolbox-1/2015/11/17/fog-fear-obligation-guilt

Thanks for this.
I am currently having counselling to try and overcome this awful guilt and to be able to find the right balance to live my own life and help my parents.

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Theyearwas1973 · 05/07/2024 10:43

Thanks everyone. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t being super sensitive. I have a great sense of humour and love a good joke as much as the next person but never do I ever make a joke at someone else’s expense, that’s just not funny imo.

I am scaling back as much as I can (I have mentioned my dad on here on another thread in the past and most replies suggested I did just this) but the guilt is quite overwhelming at times especially as all dad does when I visit is moan how much his life is over yet refuses to spend any of his money to make their life’s easier.

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BlueLegume · 05/07/2024 10:41

@Theyearwas1973 you were not over sensitive. He was out of order. Step right back and ‘put your own oxygen mask on first’. So many of us on here muddling through with parents who seem to think we adult children have nothing better to do than run around doing for our elderly, when most of what we do is wrong or criticised. FOG - mentioned on here often is something to read up on Flowers https://outofthefog.website/toolbox-1/2015/11/17/fog-fear-obligation-guilt

FOG - Fear, Obligation & Guilt — Out of the FOG | Personality Disorders, Narcissism, NPD, BPD

Definition: FOG - Fear, Obligation & Guilt - The acronym FOG, for Fear, Obligation and Guilt, was first coined by Susan Forward & Donna Frazier in Emotional Blackmail and describes feelings that a person often has when in a relationship with...

https://outofthefog.website/toolbox-1/2015/11/17/fog-fear-obligation-guilt

Brefugee · 05/07/2024 10:40

that sounds really hard, OP. So in your shoes i would pull back from doing anything at all for you dad and focus on your mum who you clearly love very much. Your sister can carry on doing what she thinks is right, but you shouldn't compare yourself to her. Each of you, sisters, have chosen your own path and that is how it should be.

Good luck, and don't worry. You ARE a good daughter, and it doesn't matter what people with their own agenda think.

SiobhanSharpe · 05/07/2024 10:39

Quite honestly I'd remind him in detail of what I actually do (not what he thinks I do) snd intimate that if he's not happy with that I can always back away. And he csn pay for extra help.
He's not at work anymore and he can't treat people as if he's still in an all-male environment where everyone gets 'the bants'.

Theyearwas1973 · 05/07/2024 10:38

LadyDanburysHat · 05/07/2024 10:28

No you are not being over sensitive, and I would pull back on what I did to help just to show him how much you do. But I can be really petty like that.

I do think it can be really hard with some of the older generation that it is expected that you drop everything to help them, and you shouldn't expect them to be grateful at all.

Thank you.
Tbh, I have pulled back from what I was doing which was literally everything and I don’t think he likes it, he’s been snippy with me every since.
It’s so darn hard finding the right balance. I want to help especially for my dear mum’s sake but I can’t lose my mind over this and do everything for him. He really doesn’t seem to appreciate just what we do and can’t find it in him to actually say thanks.
A couple of weeks ago I stood for 6 hours in A&E with him and mum when mum collapsed. The place was full of old people all on their own, most looked so lost and bewildered with no family or friends to advocate for them. He just couldn’t say thank you. I have no idea why it is so difficult for him, he’s never been a particularly proud man so it’s not that. Just wish he wasn’t so bloody mean spirited all the time.

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PeachPairPlum · 05/07/2024 10:34

Well I can be a bad tempered bitch when ppl wind me up and would've kicked off about this, probably in front of the day centre lady.

No way is it a jokey little Comment!

DeborahVance · 05/07/2024 10:32

I'm sorry, that is completely infuriating. I am glad you are holding your line and not cleaning. All you can do is keep your boundaries at a place where you are comfortable and ignore what he says. It is shitty behaviour on his part.

LadyDanburysHat · 05/07/2024 10:28

No you are not being over sensitive, and I would pull back on what I did to help just to show him how much you do. But I can be really petty like that.

I do think it can be really hard with some of the older generation that it is expected that you drop everything to help them, and you shouldn't expect them to be grateful at all.

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