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Elderly mother and conflict with siblings

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BlueLegume · 03/06/2024 07:32

Over the past few years I had to make a decision to find full time nursing care for my DF. This advice came from his consultant. Unfortunately one of my siblings and DM didn’t like the advice so set about making a few, but rather pointless adaptations to our parents home. I live overseas but do try to return regularly and make an effort to keep communication open. This thread isn’t about DF. He is now safe and in an environment able to meet his needs very close to our mother’s house so she visit easily. My mother is and always has been an incredibly difficult person, forever. I do not wish to ‘out’ myself but as long as I can remember she is awkward, unsympathetic and outright contrary about things. Sadly it appears one of my siblings sees her through rose tinted glasses and is determined she has something wrong with her. She is mid 80s but all I and my other sibling see is Mum being Mum. Unfortunately our brother does not see this. She has now alienated herself from everyone. There is not a neighbour she hasn’t be incredibly rude to. She has alienated all family members, who all tried to help as they liked our DF. We have arranged for a cleaner and a gardener. She will not allow them access. We arranged a private consultation with a geriatric specialist who was fantastic- she aced the memory test but took none of the advice he gave her. It feels like she only wants us as her middle aged children to drop everything and be with her. My sister and I are both retired, she lives an hour away I am overseas but come back to England regularly. Our brother thinks we do not do enough and that we should make our parents more of a priority. He seems oblivious to the fact my sister and I took the initiative and listened to hospital staff that Dad needed full nursing care, we found the home, sorted the room etc, made sure the staff had a life history for Dad and did the paperwork. He repeatedly ignored anything such as emails from the home asking for paperwork to be done. He continues to say Mum is ‘ill’. She may well be sad about the situation but both of our parents repeatedly ignored suggestions to help them selves in later life. Well done for getting so far - feel free to ask what I am actually asking! It feels like he has literally just opened his eyes to our mothers personality. In a nutshell she would and always has been incredibly defiant. Other than move in with her my sister and I are really not sure what to do as she will not help herself or allow us to arrange help. Our brother just criticises everything we do yet turns up when it suits him, not Mum, faffs about and leaves. Thanks for listening that feels abit better.

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mitogoshi · 03/06/2024 08:04

Sounds so familiar! In our case it was the grown up grandchildren that had to take the reins because none of the children could get it together! The brother is just like you describe with kids drifting too so they weren't the grandchildren involved. Thankfully you inherit from both parents so the scatty genes of that middle generation have been superseded by exh among others Grin

Is a residential home an option, not full nursing?

Pikapikapikachu11 · 03/06/2024 08:04

BlueLegume · 03/06/2024 07:55

Thanks @Frostandfrogs sensible advice. Think I just needed to vent. Mother will literally argue black is white and always has done.

My mum just passed away, like yours very stubborn and the opposite problem with my brother... too involved and Controlling with also a sharp tongue.

Elderly parents sub forum on here is great, soooop many of us go through this. It's awful, but you are not alone. hugs

Frostandfrogs · 03/06/2024 07:57

BlueLegume · 03/06/2024 07:55

Thanks @Frostandfrogs sensible advice. Think I just needed to vent. Mother will literally argue black is white and always has done.

I can totally understand that need to vent!

BlueLegume · 03/06/2024 07:55

Thanks @Frostandfrogs sensible advice. Think I just needed to vent. Mother will literally argue black is white and always has done.

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Frostandfrogs · 03/06/2024 07:53

Ohhhh I too have a brother who turns up when it suits him and not mum, faffs about then leaves. He also like to tell the rest of us how things should be done, while doing very little himself. Solidarity @BlueLegume it is so very frustrating 💐
If your mum aced the memory test, she is considered to have capacity, and can therefore make decisions that you 'deem to be unwise'. It's very difficult to try to help somebody who doesn't think they need help, so perhaps leave her to it and try to just keep an eye out for her safety as best as you can.

BlueLegume · 03/06/2024 07:50

No money involved as we pursued, with a lot of help from the SW and the manager of the nursing home CHC - we were successful in getting it. No he lives about 20 minutes from our mother with his own family. Really kind sensible advice so thanks for that. He is and always has been very much a mummies boy - perhaps we need to remind ourselves of that. Neither he nor Mum like dealing with any reality in life - they were my sisters words to be fair and she is spot on. All of our children have gone onto have decent careers whereas his, lovely as they are have really just drifted in life and are in dead end jobs. But he blames the schools, the government and COVID for this. Quite ridiculous when you see it written down really. I have just come back to England for a visit and have already sorted DAd out with new clothes as I asked the home if he needed anything, a new razor and a bag labelled with toiletries. I also organised all of that from overseas.

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converseandjeans · 03/06/2024 07:42

He is probably allowed to get away with doing less. Probably because he is male! Maybe they don't want to pay care home fees - do they ask for money if the other spouse is still alive & living in the property?

AnnaMagnani · 03/06/2024 07:40

From your post it sounds as if your brother does a lot less than you and your sister, but feels free to criticize and say you both should do more. But definitely not him.

I would focus on you and your sister being a united front.

If he starts up about 'mum being ill' you can either ignore, or state your disagreement and that you are not going to discuss it further.

Any suggestions that you and your sister should do more to help out again you can ignore, or point out all that you actually do despite having other commitments. And he is welcome to step up.

And its totally fair for you and your sister to point out to him that all he does is faff about and upset you both.

Brandnewskytohangyourstarsupon · 03/06/2024 07:39

There comes a time when stepping away is the only road to sanity.

You clearly cannot win no matter what you do.
So stop trying.

Be reassured that you have tried to do your best by them to no avail.

visit, listen, then leave. That’s all you can do.

BlueLegume · 03/06/2024 07:39

Thanks for replies - no social services are not involved. They were with DF and were incredibly helpful. Really sensible responses so thanks for that.

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Graceandfavor · 03/06/2024 07:37

Your brother’s opinion is literally that - his opinion. If he wants to do more he can go ahead and do it, but not involve you, or try to guilt you. I’d tell him to make a rod for his own back if he chooses, but not to make one for yours

DustyLee123 · 03/06/2024 07:35

Ignore what your brother says, you should only do as much as you want to do.
Are social services involved?