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MIL wants stairlift in our house when she visits

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Midliffey · 11/05/2024 07:56

Hello
i get on well with my MIL. DP stays with her once a week and we have her for the odd weekend and Christmas Easter etc
She has COPD is very immobile and it’s a frame or stick. Can’t stand up indepenly. She pays for a carer everyday to wash her and do housework.
she cannot manage our stairs and has asked we install.stair Lift. I don’t want this. We have a downstairs room she can use but it’s too far from toilet and she says she doesn’t want to use commode.
inhave teens at home and it feels like it’s
not my home as they are always in and out as it is (busy house with 10 at a time on weekends) that’s another story.
i think a stairlift when no one who lives here needs it is a big ask
my husband would do anything for his mother and wants it. He asked me to think about it. I can’t help think it’s selfish that she would ask? Am I being the selfish one ?

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AcrossthePond55 · 11/05/2024 15:37

I wouldn't do it. I'd do what a PP said and get a small-ish wheelchair for her to use to wheel herself to the bathroom and possibly install grab bars to help her maneuver from the chair to the toilet.

But you do say that she 'can't stand up independently', so how does she manage at home? She has to be able to get out of bed in the morning, get out of a chair during the day, get off the toilet, etc etc.

What does she do during the day at your house? She must use the downstairs loo then. Is it that much further from 'her' room to the loo than from the living room to the loo?

I don't know about a nefarious plan to move in, but could part of it be that she doesn't like being 'all alone' downstairs at night (assuming the family bedrooms are all upstairs) and fears not making it to the toilet? If this is a real concern, then DH needs to sleep downstairs to help her. But again, how does she manage this at home?

Justkeepingplatesspinning · 11/05/2024 15:36

She's looking to eventually move in with you, is my guess. If she can sleep downstairs, is there room to move the downstairs toilet (assuming you have one)?

Channellingsophistication · 11/05/2024 15:36

No way would I do this for someone who just visits. It will massively be in the way.

Sunshine45689 · 11/05/2024 15:35

She's planning on moving in.

bridgetreilly · 11/05/2024 15:33

No. If she can’t manage to stay at yours, it would be cheaper, quicker and simpler for her to stay at a nearby hotel when she visits.

Ifyoucouldreadmymindlove · 11/05/2024 15:32

Not an effing chance.

SammyScrounge · 11/05/2024 15:28

Midliffey · 11/05/2024 07:56

Hello
i get on well with my MIL. DP stays with her once a week and we have her for the odd weekend and Christmas Easter etc
She has COPD is very immobile and it’s a frame or stick. Can’t stand up indepenly. She pays for a carer everyday to wash her and do housework.
she cannot manage our stairs and has asked we install.stair Lift. I don’t want this. We have a downstairs room she can use but it’s too far from toilet and she says she doesn’t want to use commode.
inhave teens at home and it feels like it’s
not my home as they are always in and out as it is (busy house with 10 at a time on weekends) that’s another story.
i think a stairlift when no one who lives here needs it is a big ask
my husband would do anything for his mother and wants it. He asked me to think about it. I can’t help think it’s selfish that she would ask? Am I being the selfish one ?

Did you know that you can hire one for short spells? It leaves no mark behind when you
take it out.

imnotsickbutimnotwell · 11/05/2024 15:26

That will be stage 1, stage 2 is her moving in to live with you.

problembottom · 11/05/2024 15:12

I’d do it if I could afford it. DP’s mum drives us crazy but when she asked for some disability aids (massive plastic handles drilled into the walls) by the doors and stairs in our house I said yes. They’re ugly AF and everyone always comments on them but it’s not important. I would get a stairlift for her if she needed it in the future. She’s never moving in tho!

Ellie56 · 11/05/2024 14:48

I wouldn't be installing a stair lift when no one living in the house needs one. They are ugly and cumbersome and it be would be hugely inconvenient to live with.Tell your DH you have thought about it and the answer is, "No."

I agree with other posters the plan is for MIL to move in permanently.

JFDIYOLO · 11/05/2024 14:43

They're planning to move her in.

Then your home really won't be your home.

You'll be an unpaid nurse, cleaner, carer.

Investigate installing a downstairs loo and shower instead, which will enhance your home, not blight it.

Needanewname42 · 11/05/2024 14:27

Op just a thought if she was in one of the upstairs rooms, how far away would the loo be?
Or am I jumping the gun to think she'll have an eye on the master bedroom with the en-suite.

Cherrysoup · 11/05/2024 14:23

Ecstaticmotion · 11/05/2024 13:19

Also this. OP have you ever used a commode? I have, and I’ve cared for someone who has too. They do not feel dignified and obviously someone has to empty them too. I find so many of these replies so sad to read.

one day, this old lady will be YOU.

So the Op should go to the expense and massive inconvenience of installing a stairlift in her home, not her mil’s, for 10 minutes use a couple of times a year?! That’s not logical.

Cherrysoup · 11/05/2024 14:20

Soontobe60 · 11/05/2024 10:00

My Grandma had one for my grandad - she used to put the washing on the seat and send it up, then walk up afterwards 😂

Exactly what my mil used my fil’s for!

Hell, no, OP, the plan is clearly for her to move in down the line, just no. A stairlift is obviously not going to happen when have teenagers running up and down. How often does she stay? Could your Dh not stay with her instead?

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 11/05/2024 14:17

godmum56 · 11/05/2024 13:08

Have you used a commode or looked after someone who uses a commode? Its not nice. I would NOT use a commode in someone else's house....but my solution would be to say that I can't visit if I can't manage there. This wouldn't be to put force on the homeowner but to recognise the issue.

Yes my mother had to use a commode as she couldn’t get up the stairs and I agree they are not pleasant.
I agree if you can’t manage in someone else’s house you shouldn’t stay.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 11/05/2024 14:07

TeeBee · 11/05/2024 08:08

Nope, it'll devalue your home. Stay firm.

How will it devalue the OPs home?

needsomewarmsunshine · 11/05/2024 14:05

It's all very well, installing loos and other things. BUT, there will be more incentive for dh to agree to let his dm move in whether OP wants it or not.
This isn't just about stair lifts but potential long term situations.

IClaudine · 11/05/2024 14:03

Hayliebells · 11/05/2024 13:37

If I was looking around an otherwise nicely done home, that had a starlift, it would put me off as a buyer. Maybe if I was factoring in spending ££££ on a doer-upper, that was priced at such, I wouldn't bat an eyelid. But if I wanted to buy somewhere I could just move into, without any faffing around removing stairlifts, I may well swerve that house in favour of another. There's enough surprises expenses you need to factor in when home buying, a great big obvious one would put off some people I'm sure. So yes, it may well devalue your home.

@Hayliebells Stairlifts are easy to remove, though. They are fixed to the stairs and not the wall as many people think. The worst case scenario is you'd need a new stair carpet.

Corcory · 11/05/2024 13:59

How about looking at popping a loo in nearer the downstairs room or even an en-suite which would enhance your home rather than devaluing it. Could well cost about the same as a chair lift.

Anonymouseposter · 11/05/2024 13:57

I had one for my mother that my husband later used. It still worked and we were lazy about servicing it. It was second hand so really quite old.

Needanewname42 · 11/05/2024 13:54

@quizzys read the first Post more carefully.
We have a downstairs room she can use but it’s too far from toilet

I'm reading that as there is a downstairs loo.

Needanewname42 · 11/05/2024 13:49

WaitingForMojo · 11/05/2024 12:29

My parents had one for when my gran visited. It then became useful as they got older and one of them ended up needing it too.

I don't buy that logic.
I know someone who had a wheelchair lift. It eventually needed replacing as they could no longer get spare parts for it.
The same thing could happen with a stairlift no guarantee that parts would still be available in 10-15 years.

Bignanna · 11/05/2024 13:49

Ecstaticmotion · 11/05/2024 13:18

I think YAB heartless. One day we’ll all likely be incapacitated and frail in one way or another. Your MIL won’t be around forever; give an elderly unwell lady the opportunity to enjoy life as much as possible when she visits. Also fwiw, modern stairlifts usually fold up (the chair bit) so it doesn’t take up much space. When it’s no longer needed you can have it removed and it’ll be like it was never there (you can hire them from companies who both fit and remove them). Mortality and disability are real. Be kind.

From what other posters said, it does take up a lot of space, looks awful, and when it is taken out needs works to get the stairs back to normal. Given that OP does have a toilet downstairs the MIL should not ask for them to be inconvenienced. It’s only for visits.

Anonymouseposter · 11/05/2024 13:48

SheilaFentiman · 11/05/2024 13:39

Again, this depends on your stairs. My mum’s has a seat that folds up and it is still a squeeze to get past it (it has to park part way up the stairs because of the house layout)

Where we live, we have very wide stairs, but they dogleg and split, so it would be difficult for us to install one for that reason.

We can’t generalise

Yes, to be fair I have a straight flight of stairs and the chairlift folded against the wall.

quizzys · 11/05/2024 13:45

SheilaFentiman · 11/05/2024 13:36

I think the MIL would sleep in an upstairs room and use the upstairs bathrooom if there was a stairlift.

It's still not clear to me whether or not OP has a downstairs toilet. Anyway if she does, it is perfect for MIL to stay downstairs with her own room and a toilet that she can be wheeled into if necessary as mentioned above.

I did it for many years for my own Mum. Downstairs loo, separate dining room made into bedroom for her visits, wheeled into loo via a call bell/nanny cam. That was the worst bit in the middle of the night! But I did my best to do it with good grace. She was affected by stroke but I can tell you with hand on heart that it was great that my upstairs rooms remained my private space and sanctuary.

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