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There has to be an awareness campaign about dementia and the different kinds of dementia

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Pinkpro · 02/05/2024 14:59

Within the past two years I became concerned about my mother who's in her 70s. I have a list of observations for the past two years that are all behavioural and mood based. Not so much memory loss. It's getting worse now. Like this morning - there's no structure to her household chores. Starting on one task and abondoning it in the middle to move onto another task. I have a whole entire list of stuff.

I found plus size period swimwear in her laundry even though she is not plus size and she doesn't swim.

Another time she came home from the pharmacy and she was so excited to show me what she got. She showed me two bottles of face serum. I started to ask questions about them because I know that's not usually her thing. She told me they were free and there was a sign in the pharmacy over a basket - Free - please take one.

I had doubts about it and I went into the pharmacy the next day and I saw no basket with free serums.

My mother also told me because they were free she took two of them and put them into her pocket. She didn't even go to the till for them to pass it through their system.

If it was free I suspect maybe perhaps as part of a promotion. I suspected she shoplifted from the pharmacy.

I have a lot of observations.

Time and time and time again I am coming up to a brick wall with everyone - with her GPs, with our family, and even when I reach out to my friends.

Time and time and time again everyone says it doesn't sound like dementia because she's not forgetting.

My understanding of dementia is that there's different types and the most common is alzhemiers which presents with memory loss early on in the disease. Other types of dementia presents exactly what I am describing - behavioural, mood, paranoia, and memory loss does present in those dementia but not until the later stages. So that's why so many people think dementia is memory loss. I think also many people are wanting to only see a particular type of memory loss like forgetting names and forgetting where you live - typical textbook style stuff. It's so much more than this.

I now I don't have a diagnosis for my mother but I would put money on a dementia with her. It's so so so so hard. I spent the whole morning babysitting her and monitoring her behaviours while she shoots around the place.

There has to be more awareness of dementia. I am locked in the bathroom crying my eyes out over the morning I had with her. She's completely obvious to what she's doing.

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BulbasaurusRex · 02/05/2024 16:12

I’m sorry that does sound distressing for you. It’s horrible seeing our parents like this. What does the GP say? Have they done any tests?

My mum has frontotemporal dementia and it has not been like the ‘typical’ dementia symptoms you’d expect. It was mum’s ‘conflabulation’ that the GP picked up on during an initial memory test and then she referred her to the memory clinic. Mum could answer questions about dates etc but couldn’t understand questions that were a bit more abstract.

SpaSpa · 02/05/2024 16:09

The pharmacy face cream thing may not have been stealing but your DM inventing a story as she now realises it was an odd thing to buy.

Keep an eye that she doesn’t get ripped off by people. I found even my DM’s ‘friends’ took advantage of her, it was heartbreaking.

Does she have POA in place, if she doesn’t this is the time to push for it?

ditismooi · 02/05/2024 16:04

Google teepa snow - she is really helpful & engaging especially in dealing and reacting to dementia behaviours . My mum had vascular dementia from a stroke damage - to the outside world she could present really well . She could mask and do hostess mode no problem for years . But she would often “glitch” , believe she had a duplicate house , relatives were not who they were, all sorts of fun and games until more typical features of “ dementia “ appeared . At times it was as comic as it was tragic . My favourite story was the “buffet” she once prepared for non existent guests . Ultimately how you perceive time & space is governed by your brain . She couldn’t comprehend how she could not fit a huge dining table into a tiny galley kitchen but she could tell you who the prime minister was right up the last few months of her life . It’s really hard until you’ve lived it . I nearly lost the plot too !

Turmerictolly · 02/05/2024 16:03

It could be a mental illness rather than dementia. I'm assuming the Gp has at least done tests to rule out UTI's? Have they referred her for a head scan?

Thighdentitycrisis · 02/05/2024 15:53

@SpaSpa
my mum was the same

AnnaMagnani · 02/05/2024 15:49

Apathy is such a big deal in most types of dementia and massively underappreciated.

No your relative isn't doing it on purpose, they really can't make a decision. Any decision Even a tiny one.

Sittingontheporch · 02/05/2024 15:45

My mother has fairly advanced dementia and I'd still say memory loss is the least of her symptoms.

The one that triggered diagnosis was slurred speech. Preceding this, before we realised, was years of total apathy. Like couldn't be arsed-ness. I found it really hurtful as it seemed as if she had no interest in my children nor could be bothered to make any effort. She lost interest in all the things that had mattered to her beforehand, including my father. She also lost any ability to organise finances or use technology.

Now the worst thing is her physical deterioration (can't walk), but she can still remember really quite a lot. But her speech is better.

I'm constantly googling symptoms to try to work out if she's got a different sort of dementia as it feels so atypical.

AnnaMagnani · 02/05/2024 15:35

Even in Alzheimers memory loss isn't necessarily the first symptom.

With FIL he started giving up his hobbies because he couldn't initiate an activity. He also started worrying about his health as he couldn't recall reassurance.

Unfortunately neither of these behaviours were massively out of character for him so his family didn't notice until the changes were overwhelming. I suggested he had dementia the first time I met him and was told he was always odd.

I think he had always been odd but it took a stranger to point out something wasn't right.

SpaSpa · 02/05/2024 15:32

It could be a mental health condition or a combo of one and a type of dementia.

olderbutwiser · 02/05/2024 15:30

Has she actually seen the GP with a witness there?

SpaSpa · 02/05/2024 15:29

My mum has Alzheimer’s and memory loss was not one of the earliest symptoms, personality change, anger, anxiety, withdrawing socially happened beforehand.

AGlinnerOfHope · 02/05/2024 15:22

With the GP, it isn’t good enough to say it’s not dementia- they need to do tests and work out what it could be.

Have they suggested anything?

ByUmberViewer · 02/05/2024 15:16

It could be any number of things. Can you offer to go with her to the GP and explain your concerns and ask what they can do to help?

Pinkpro · 02/05/2024 15:13

The best way that I can describe things that I am observing is that it's like her brain or mind is short circuiting and tripping because there are times when she is ok but then there's either times and she's not right. It's all behavioural and mood.

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AGlinnerOfHope · 02/05/2024 15:05

Oh bless you. I know nothing about dementia types. That sounds so hard though. DFiL just likes to sleep, doesn’t care about anything much, or remember anything much. He’s fairly cheerful, except when DMiL who has a mixed dementia diagnosis gets obsessed about what he’s eating and tries to make him do things because he shouldn’t just sit there.

DM is losing words, can’t process new information and won’t give up on using tech. BT have sent her several new Wi-Fi routers/tv boxes because she says they aren’t working. I spend ages on the phone helping her find the @key on her iPad. She gets angry because the emails and texts she sends/receives don’t arrive.

It is tough. and frustrating.

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