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Letter to GP about mother?

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LozzaChops101 · 17/04/2024 15:45

Hello everyone - just after some advice about sending a letter to my mother's GP. This might be a bit garbled as my brain is completely fried at the moment, apologies.

My mother (74 now) tried to bring up cognitive impairment to her GP when I accompanied her to an appointment after she had a heart attack in early 2018. She thought she was becoming "forgetful" due to her heart attack, but I had been seeing signs for several years. Her GP was extremely dismissive, saying if she knew where she was and hadn't left the gas on then there was nothing to worry about. There was definitely something to worry about then, and it's obviously got worse since. I need to somehow get him to take it seriously as I'm now struggling to cope with her on my own. Another problem I have is that my mother is (has always been) quite difficult with me, and this is only getting worse as she gets older - she gets furious with me, then stops speaking to me for weeks if she feels slighted, which includes any suspicion that I might have noticed that she's done something a bit batty. I don't know how she remembers that she isn't speaking to me when she forgets everything else(!) but I really would like her not to know that I've been in touch with her GP about her.

We've got to the stage now where her friends are bringing it up to me, and each other. She can't remember any appointments, or that she's meeting friends, she struggles to follow conversations, and she completely messes up her (vast array of) medication; forgetting that she's already taken it, or forgetting to take it at all. We have the same conversation literally dozens of times a day, each time can be within a minute or two, and she won't remember. She can't remember very recent events, eg. last night I helped her fill in an online form for an imminent asthma assessment, the second she pressed "submit" she said "Oh, I think have to do a form about my asthma somewhere, but I don't know what that is." She is also now becoming very belligerent with her friends for little/no reason and then can't remember that she's done it. She's cut off completely two friends that she's known for over 60 years without explanation to them.

Her own mother developed vascular dementia in her late 50s, but this feels different, and if a stranger spent a few minutes talking to her they might not notice. She's also physcially quite active, she can garden all day, has pilates weekly (that she almost always forgets to attend now) and volunteers to go leafletting (then obviously can't remember where she's been) etc, so she doesn't fit the average image of an old lady with dementia to outsiders.

TLDR!

A) Can I write to mother's GP re. concerns about dementia/cognitive impairment?

B) If not GP, who, if anyone?

C) What should I include if I do?!

I think this is probably a garbled mess, apologies.

Thanks for reading! Yours in mild desperation, etc.

OP posts:
Coldupnorth87 · 21/04/2024 13:57

I did the letter to the GP about mil.

It did work, eventually. She was diagnosed at home as she refused to go to any medical appointments.

Sailawaygirl · 20/04/2024 10:13

Definitely contact GP . I'm so sorry GP was so dismissive in 2018 that's terrible as there could be several things that could be wrong/ could help from a medical point of view dementia obviously one of them but thyroid issues also. There is support that and treatment ppl can have early in there dementia journey which really helps to prepare for future changes if people are happy to talk about it.

Your mum deserves a full cognitive assessment not just a GP screen, this should include a head scan to help dementia diagnosis. When you contact GP again firmly request a referral to memory clinic ( or dementia diagnosis service) these should operate in all areas ok uk. Most don't offer that much aftercare but do help with dementia meds and sign posting to support ( which can be mixed) but so much easier with a proper dementia diagnosis.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 18/04/2024 18:09

Yes, you can write - when I was a frequent visitor to the Alz. Soc Carers’ forum it was often recommended. Of course they won’t discuss anything about the person with you, but you can make them aware, so when they do come in, checks can be made.

CadyEastman · 18/04/2024 17:38

They won't tell you anything about her health , but they will read your concerns.
We've done it

I've done it to a couple of times. You have to make it really clear that you don't want to know anything, you are simply informing them that their patient may need attention and why.

Nonewclothes2024 · 18/04/2024 16:22

arbitary · 17/04/2024 22:20

Do you have a health LPA? If not, they may not be able to deal with you. I had concerns about my own mother and her GP practice refused to speak to me because she hadn’t given me permission so I was unable to voice my concerns. The problem she had that went untreated had a very detrimental effect on her for the rest of her life. It was utterly frustrating and upset me a lot but there was literally nothing I could do. Not all GPs are as awful as my mother’s was but just be prepared in case.

They won't tell you anything about her health , but they will read your concerns.
We've done it.

CadyEastman · 18/04/2024 13:25

countrygirl99 · 18/04/2024 11:00

Dossette boxes don't always work if there is dementia. Mum forgets what day/time of day it is and still gets in a mess. She now has a pivotell on loan from social services but I have to go round and load it up which is no good if you live miles away and they are on 4 x a day meds which means it needs loading every week.

That's true a Doseette box is great if there's someone there to give the medication or stop them taking everything all at once. Not so good if the person with Dementia has access to it.

countrygirl99 · 18/04/2024 11:00

Dossette boxes don't always work if there is dementia. Mum forgets what day/time of day it is and still gets in a mess. She now has a pivotell on loan from social services but I have to go round and load it up which is no good if you live miles away and they are on 4 x a day meds which means it needs loading every week.

CadyEastman · 17/04/2024 22:29

Do you have a health LPA

If you haven't got a Health POA abc a Finance POA I'd see if she agrees and apply now, before she gets a diagnosis. It will be so much easier for you if you have these in place.

You can apply heree*.

singlemum93 · 17/04/2024 22:24

I would definitely contact GP again (any form will be fine)!as she needs to be referred to mental health services for a full dementia assessment. I would also contact any organisations you have in your area such as dementia forward as they are pretty good at speeding up the diagnosis process and have lots of advice!

arbitary · 17/04/2024 22:20

Do you have a health LPA? If not, they may not be able to deal with you. I had concerns about my own mother and her GP practice refused to speak to me because she hadn’t given me permission so I was unable to voice my concerns. The problem she had that went untreated had a very detrimental effect on her for the rest of her life. It was utterly frustrating and upset me a lot but there was literally nothing I could do. Not all GPs are as awful as my mother’s was but just be prepared in case.

CadyEastman · 17/04/2024 22:20

Yes definitely email the GP and tell them that she's not taking medication, is confused and anxious and you think it would be in everyone's interest if they could find out why she is confused and anxious as you want to try and keep them at home. I'd also ask that she be allocated a SW.

I'd also request a Care Needs Assessment for her and make sure you're there when it's carried out. She won't be able to articulate what her needs are and won't remember the daily havoc that her confirm is causing.

Think carefully about what care you're willing to give before the assessment though. Remember if you're offering care, it's 7 days a week without a holiday abc can go on for years.

You might also want to contact the local Carer's Hub for some practical advice on what's available in your area and support.

I'd also apply for Attendance Allowance. She doesn't need a diagnosis as it's based on need. If you phone first the application forms, and the claim is successful, the payments will be backdated to the day you called.

I'd also recommend the books The Twilight Shepherd for practical advice and I haven't read this one but I've seen it recommended a lot and will read it next. It's Contented Dementia.

Wishing you the very best. Sounds like you have a very difficult time ahead Flowers

tobyj · 17/04/2024 22:16

Another one with a v similar situation with a mother at a very similar age. Possibly a fraction less advanced in confusion, but v similar. I wrote to the GP to share my concerns, emphasising confidentiality. It 'worked' in the sense that the GP did a memory test at her next appointment and referred DM to a memory clinic. But that, I'm afraid, is where the positive news ends. Referral took 9 months until an appointment came through. Memory tests done, diagnosis of MCI rather than dementia. Referral to a 'healthy minds' service, which she never heard another word about. No scans, no medication, no GP follow up. Another nine months on, she's got progressively worse, and I strongly suspect would now meet the dementia threshold if retested (to be honest I think she should at least have had further tests last time). I'm probably about to write to the GP again, to lay out my concerns again.

cestlavielife · 17/04/2024 21:48

Dosette boxesIf the person you care for has a complicated medicine regime with different pills taken at different times of the day, a pharmacist may decide to provide them in dosette boxes.
These are plastic boxes with small compartments that clearly show which pills need to be taken at what time of day.
Dosette boxes are not always available for free on the NHS and they're not suitable for every type of medicine. Ask your pharmacist for more information about dosette boxes if you think they could be helpful

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/social-care-and-support-guide/practical-tips-if-you-care-for-someone/medicines-tips-for-carers/

nhs.uk

Medicines: tips for carers - Social care and support guide

Find out about giving pills correctly and safely, organising medicines and reviewing their use.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/social-care-and-support-guide/practical-tips-if-you-care-for-someone/medicines-tips-for-carers

cestlavielife · 17/04/2024 21:46

Yes absolutely
Write all your concerns to gp
Ask gp to ask Pharmacy to supplyvtablets in daily dispenser pack roll

JosieRay · 17/04/2024 21:43

Hi Lozza, I could have been reading about my own DM reading your post! The mixing up of medication, confusion over form filling, the conversations repeating constantly, the belligerence etc and yet to anyone outside the family she could be so convincing that all was well with her. Looking back, I realised that she was very afraid of what was happening to her and she hid it for as long as she could.
We contacted the GP who was supportive and she invited her in for a check up…she was already well known at the surgery, calling in or phoning regularly. She had extreme health anxiety. Anyway, the GP tested her and basically diagnosed dementia…she couldn’t answer any of the questions and 10 minutes later couldn’t remember having been to the GP.
I would suggest contacting her GP again or a different one in the practice if there is someone you feel would be more supportive. They will invite your DM in and not tell her that you initiated it. We also contacted Social services for an assessment. Tell them exactly what you have written in your post with your examples. We were able to then get Attendance Allowance, a gardener and later on a carer for personal care when she deteriorated.
Hopefully others will be along soon with more advice as there are so many of us treading or have trodden that path.
Sending you best wishes and remember to have a plan for looking after yourself.