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Elderly parents

I blame Escape to the Country!

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Mini712 · 21/03/2024 16:33

Is anyone else in the same situation?

My parents retired 12 years ago & decided to retire to Dorset. At the time, I was pretty upset that they were moving away from me and my young family but accepted their decision.
During those 12 years they have had an amazing retirement, living in a beautiful part of the country and travelling the world with fancy holidays & cruises galore! But more recently their health has started to fail so they can’t do as much anymore and Mum in particular is feeling a bit isolated which as meant they now want to see us more. They come and stay with us regularly(usually for at least a week!) every other month but we live 3 hours away so we can’t just pop in for a cup of tea.
I am now feeling guilty as I don’t want them to feel lonely but also resentment as it wasn’t me that moved in the first place!
Last saw them 2 weeks ago when they stayed with us for a week but now getting pressure from Mum to see them over Easter. Should I cave in and see them even though I had planned to spend Easter with hubby & sons?

By the way I have a brother but he rarely calls them, let alone visits or has them to stay

Any thoughts would be appreciated ❤️

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SpringtimeBunny · 22/03/2024 09:26

Mum5net · 21/03/2024 17:31

Just a thought , OP, but is their Dorset home rentable?
Could they rent it out further down the line if things go more pear-shaped and then rent a smaller 1 bed place near to you using proceeds?
Would mean a double up on household bills, Council Tax etc but they would have a foot in both camps.

Also if you haven't got POA I would hurry them along. It also sounds like he would qualify for attendance allowance, which isn't means tested.

The tenant would be responsible for the council tax.

KalaMush · 22/03/2024 09:25

crumblingschools · 22/03/2024 08:20

For those saying tough as the parents chose to move away, have you always lived in the same place and will never move, do you expect your DC to never move further than a couple of miles away?

It's not them moving that's the problem. It's them moving AND then expecting the OP to either make a long trip to visit them or host them regularly for a week at a time. They spent a week with her only two weeks ago and are now putting pressure on her to see them again for Easter. They need to either move back or accept they won't see OP so often.

SpringtimeBunny · 22/03/2024 09:23

DustyLee123 · 21/03/2024 16:36

You aren’t there to entertain them, you have your own life. Time to set some boundaries for the future.

Wow! Thats cold

MereDintofPandiculation · 22/03/2024 09:22

BorderBelle · 22/03/2024 09:00

I think the middle class model - of uprooting yourself away from your entire network, aged 60, to somewhere where you have no links and you've not contributed to the local area in your more active and productive years, taking on a house thats too big with too much garden, to then burden full-time working children who live 3 hours away with your medical requirements, health scares and care needs - will be short lived and largely restricted to the current cohort of pensioners.
It's a stupid, impractical model borne out of arrogance and delusion.
My plan for old age - remain in the market town that we moved to at 35 years old, where we will have contributed and built a network for 30 years before we retire, and live in a town centre flat, walking distance from all amenities.

In terms of contribution to local community, I think your “active and productive years” are precisely in your 60s and 70s. I look at the groups I know, from conservation groups, maintenance of local parks, through to running local libraries, theatres, museums, and all the heavy work is done by people in their 60s and 70s.

Realistically, how many networks remain intact for 40 or 50 years?

MereDintofPandiculation · 22/03/2024 09:01

ALunchbox · 21/03/2024 16:37

I wouldn't go if I had other plans. I really dislike attitudes like this. I will never expect my DC to come and visit me or look after me. They're free to live their lives.

I expect OP’s parents were saying this 30 years ago Grin

BorderBelle · 22/03/2024 09:00

I think the middle class model - of uprooting yourself away from your entire network, aged 60, to somewhere where you have no links and you've not contributed to the local area in your more active and productive years, taking on a house thats too big with too much garden, to then burden full-time working children who live 3 hours away with your medical requirements, health scares and care needs - will be short lived and largely restricted to the current cohort of pensioners.
It's a stupid, impractical model borne out of arrogance and delusion.
My plan for old age - remain in the market town that we moved to at 35 years old, where we will have contributed and built a network for 30 years before we retire, and live in a town centre flat, walking distance from all amenities.

Karlah · 22/03/2024 08:58

crumblingschools · 22/03/2024 08:20

For those saying tough as the parents chose to move away, have you always lived in the same place and will never move, do you expect your DC to never move further than a couple of miles away?

Yes, I've moved too. This was after my marriage broke down, my parents moved abroad and I needed to make changes to be able to manage my family and professional life as a single parent to my DC’s.

My DC’s have their own life too, very much encouraged following them experiencing city life at uni. I would never expect them to stay/move near to me.

My parents kind of led the way. They chose their independence when they went abroad (at a crisis point when I really needed them, tbh).
The impact on me and in my DC’s is that the relationship between my parents and I and also my DC’s and their GP’s isn't strong.

They have made a sensible choice ( as said above) to return to the UK but not near to me. They have the right to make their own choices. They have. I can't be around for them regularly given the choices they have made and my working life.

I can't feel guilty for choices that they have happily made.

Musicaltheatremum · 22/03/2024 08:44

I live 2.5 hours from my dad and an hour from my fil in opposite directions. My FIL we can do a day trip easily ...my dad really needs 2 nights though can do it in a day. They are 91(dad) and 96 (fil) both independent thankfully. My mum took unwell and died very quickly in 2022 and going up and down to see her was exhausting and very emotional...I could only get short bits of time off work. I'm 60 and want to move to the country but my daughter really wants me within an hour so it's easier to see each other for shorter more regular times and having lost mum so tragically I agree.

I've just organised POA for me for my daughter and son. Husband needs to sort his (he's not their dad). I have poa for my dad. It's been amazing for my fil as he is very deaf and partially sighted so although fully with it he needs help.

icelolly12 · 22/03/2024 08:39

Rather than staying with you can they book a hotel or cottage somewhere nearbyish for a few days with nice walks etc or shops they can potter round, then you can meet up as and when rather than feeling obliged to entertain them 24/7.

angstridden2 · 22/03/2024 08:31

I’m not saying the situation for their daughter isn’t difficult, and they probably should move or need to accept paid help but I think the general tone on this thread is quite unkind unless they’ve been awful parents in the past. Moving your entire life in your late 70s is a challenge I imagine and it doesn’t sound as though being close is particularly welcomed either.

For what it’s worth I’ve moved closer to one child; at the moment we are doing far more for them than they need to do for us but am aware it may change.However I am not yet that old or frail so although I miss my old life in some ways, I hope to build a new one while I’m young and fit enough.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 22/03/2024 08:29

@angstridden2 - I do understand what you are saying, but as someone else in a similar boat to the OP, you really have to accept that your parents made a choice to build a life away from a family support network, and the downsides of that are that you aren’t there.

i have to harden my heart a bit about how my parents are coping (or not) because the alternative is to try to give the level of care I would do if they lived close to me, but that’s only possible by greatly reducing my children’s quality of life/time with me, and that’s not fair on them.

I didn’t grumble when my parents moved to their rural retirement home (ours had the added “bonus” of being overseas), it was tough having to make career choices factoring in no family childcare/back up for sick kids or inset days while friends happily told me their dcs were being picked up by their grandparents etc. but the idea that someone in their 60s hadn’t factored in that they might need care in the next 10-15years is not really realistic. Or foolish.

ForestBather · 22/03/2024 08:27

crumblingschools · 22/03/2024 08:20

For those saying tough as the parents chose to move away, have you always lived in the same place and will never move, do you expect your DC to never move further than a couple of miles away?

What my dc decide to do is irrelevant to what is going on between my parents and myself. We can only work with the situation that exists, as it is at the present time, with the demands of my own life.

I am not one who has said 'tough', but I have had to tell my parents quite firmly that their choice to live away from all family does mean we can help them less than we would if they were closer. I have limitations and we all have to live within those. Parents who make a choice to be distant may find it has consequences they don't like later. That's realistic.

Parky04 · 22/03/2024 08:25

I'm amazed that your DH is prepared to let them stay a week at a time!

Danascully2 · 22/03/2024 08:22

In a similar situation except the parent who has moved is more like a 12 hour drive from both children and is still very independent and doesn't visit very often. Also in a village with zero facilities and minimal public transport. I really worry for the future - it's a distance that makes it impossible to go even for a weekend. I'm not sure there's a solution though as adults with capacity are entitled to choose where they live.

crumblingschools · 22/03/2024 08:20

For those saying tough as the parents chose to move away, have you always lived in the same place and will never move, do you expect your DC to never move further than a couple of miles away?

PotatoPudding · 22/03/2024 08:16

They have had 12 wonderful years of retirement but now their needs have changed and where they live does not suit their needs. They need to change this. Your needs have not changed.

ForestBather · 22/03/2024 08:16

angstridden2 · 22/03/2024 08:13

I’m probably biased as I’m older, but reading some of these posts makes me really sad. Posters saying the parents have made their own beds, let them get on with it, be glad they’re not too near… Should 60 years olds not live somewhere they’ve dreamed of in retirement in case they’re frail 20 years down the line? Yes they probably should move back now but it’s a huge effort physically and mentally and tbh it sounds like many posters don’t really want parents close either. Have we got to the stage where unless gps are around to help when gcs are young, they’re seen as a nuisance?

Of course the parents should move where they want. The problem is when they stay there (which I understandable as their social networks and life are there) and still expect their children to be able to provide the support needed as they become more frail. Especially if they themselves haven't made any arrangements or given any thought to these issues. It does put a lot of pressure on their children.

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/03/2024 08:15

No. It was their decision, they have to accept the inevitable consequences.

angstridden2 · 22/03/2024 08:13

I’m probably biased as I’m older, but reading some of these posts makes me really sad. Posters saying the parents have made their own beds, let them get on with it, be glad they’re not too near… Should 60 years olds not live somewhere they’ve dreamed of in retirement in case they’re frail 20 years down the line? Yes they probably should move back now but it’s a huge effort physically and mentally and tbh it sounds like many posters don’t really want parents close either. Have we got to the stage where unless gps are around to help when gcs are young, they’re seen as a nuisance?

Hols24 · 22/03/2024 08:08

It does sound like it's time.for them to move back closer to family, into a more manageable house/flat. However I wouldn't personally paint the whole move to Dorset as a mistake given that they spent 12 years there having an amazing retirement in a beautiful part of the country.

countrygirl99 · 22/03/2024 07:57

The proble with moving the closer to you is they lose all their social network. Then they will look entirely on you for company.

PatellaBella789 · 22/03/2024 07:47

I think you are being a wee bit unreasonable to blame your parents for moving to Dorset in the first place as being “free to live your own life” works both ways and if they have had twelve happy years there, then it was well worth it.

However, as others have said, when you do move somewhere remote as an elderly person, you have to have an end game planned and execute it slightly in advance of when you think you will need it. Once one person isn’t able to drive, never mind two, then it becomes a disaster!

My parents moved back from the country and planned well but even they (who were incredibly dynamic and organised) left it slightly too late as my father was a sprightly 82 at the time but he had a lot of health problems immediately after the move and forever after that, which was sad. I think we underestimate what a big upheaval moving is at that age.

Op, your parents need to get on with it! All loving parents deserve a bit of help when elderly but if they are going to need support, then they need to move to where the support is! Staying with you a week every other month is quite a lot when you have jobs and school age dc. This Easter is irrelevant, they need to look at bigger picture and your dad needs to be told that he is being selfish.

Edited to say it’s time to give your brother a blunt talking to as well!

ForestBather · 22/03/2024 07:04

I love to watch that program but I do wonder how some of the people moving from apartments and small places get on when they suddenly have a lot of land to look after. I wonder if they know how much work it is. I think 60 is a fine age to retire to where they want, but that does create issues down the track.

I hope yours are more receptive than mine to considering practical arrangements but I wouldn't go at Easter. You have plans and it's fine to celebrate in your own home.

Mini712 · 22/03/2024 06:58

EmotionalBlackmail · 21/03/2024 21:20

I've said a big and very firm NO to Easter. I still feel like I'm recovering from Christmas when they stayed for more than a week.

It got to the stage when DH and I were almost having a fight over who would go and get the papers we were so desperate to get away from the house with them in!

Same😩😆!

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penjil · 21/03/2024 23:14

Mini712 · 21/03/2024 16:50

Mum would move back in a heart beat but Dad won’t even enter into a conversation about moving back. He has lot of health issues and doesn’t want to change doctors or hospitals.

Well, in that case, he can get carers or healthcare assistants to look after them both.

And maybe sort out that issue with their son (your brother) too!