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Aging mother ignoring possible oil leakage

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Palmsun · 11/03/2024 16:30

Two and half years ago I noticed some things with my mother thats not quite right. There's definitely some deficits happening with her mind on some behavioural and comprehension stuff. I chatted to her GP but she cited 'any memory loss' to me. My mother's memory seems to be good. I am noticing other behaviours from her.

She has oil heating and she was told last year after an oil delivery that she will have to replace the oil tank by the next fill. This isn't a surprise to me. The tank is over 30 years old and is rusty now. She ignored this and booked an oil fill for December. She came to me this morning demanding for money asap towards another oil fill and it was just her tone and attitude about it. It was very controlling and it was giving me no time to produce a few 100 for an oil delivery. I live at home with her by the way. I am apprehensive about another oil fill because the tank is bad and I am anxious that maybe we might have a leak, if not now, later on down the line. I am xious that maybe there's something already because I smell a strong smell of fumes outside the house.

I reminded my mother that we have to empty the tank and get it replaced and all it did was anger her and she made excuses and said she will do it in the summer time. I don't under this, why not now? I know her, she is lieing to me and ignoring this and she has no intention of sorting this out and replacing the tank.

Its not a money issue. I got a rough quote for 1200 and between the two of us it's not a lot of money to replace the tank. It's very cruel and mean to ignore this and push it to the summer where I will likely not be as free in the summer time due to summer work schedule.

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Diversion · 11/03/2024 20:58

If there is a kerosene leak there will be environmental issues. Domestic Heating Oil Spills I have linked to North Yorks Council, but would imagine that it would be pretty much the same everywhere. Get a new tank installed, preferably a bunded one.

Domestic heating oil spills

A guide to cleaning up after a domestic spillage.

https://www.northyorks.gov.uk/environment-and-neighbourhoods/contaminated-land/domestic-heating-oil-spills

Soontobe60 · 11/03/2024 18:18

If there is a leaking tank, you're looking at more than just replacing it! Also, you’re an adult and you also know that the tank is probably leaking - get it sorted before more environmental damage is caused, or worse, before the house goes up in flames!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/does-your-oil-tank-leak

A corroded tank can lead to pollution

Does your oil tank leak?

It feels like autumn is already here and many households will soon be getting oil delivered ready for winter.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/does-your-oil-tank-leak

samarrange · 11/03/2024 17:56

There is a large black oil circle in the ground. The tank is a few metres from that circle so I don't know if it's the car or if it's the tank.

What you put in your heating tank is called "oil" but it's kerosene, like diesel. Oily compared to petrol but not at all viscous like motor oil or even sunflower oil. It wouldn't stain the ground black - that's almost certainly old motor oil.

Back to your Mum's problem: can you maybe have a quiet word with the fuel company and ask them to say "Oof, look at that, no, sorry Madam, we can't possibly fill that leaky tank, elf'n'safety innit, more than my job's worth, environmental damage, groundwater, the works, you're going to have to get it repaired with an RPF-29D certificate before we can deliver?".

Palmsun · 11/03/2024 17:44

Dacadactyl · 11/03/2024 17:36

Sorry.

Not sure where I got 90 from then!

Hope you get it sorted.

If she was 90 it would be much easier getting work down in the home without the battle that I currently get from her.

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Palmsun · 11/03/2024 17:43

CurlsLDN · 11/03/2024 17:34

Can you arrange for an expert to come and examine the tank and give a definitive answer on whether it needs replacing/is leaking now or not?

I wanted to get a boiler service but she won't let me and she's so odd. I got some work done before the Xmas and she behaved as if those workers were going to come into our home and r@pe her and steal everything she has. She really did not behave properly at all and she's the same way again with anything that needs to be done. She would rather phone her ex husband and use him for work in the home a free repairs and then bad mouth him behind his back in the same sentence.

I do want to get the oil burner serviced and we should know more. There's other jobs that need to be doing. The airing cupboard is falling into despair with leaking pipes but she won't do this. I offered to take out a loan and get this work done but she is so odd. So it's not about money for her. She just thinks men are going to come into her home and r@pe her and steal everything.

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Dacadactyl · 11/03/2024 17:36

Palmsun · 11/03/2024 17:23

Where did I say she was 90?

Take 20 years of 90

Sorry.

Not sure where I got 90 from then!

Hope you get it sorted.

CurlsLDN · 11/03/2024 17:34

Can you arrange for an expert to come and examine the tank and give a definitive answer on whether it needs replacing/is leaking now or not?

Palmsun · 11/03/2024 17:30

Harp1977 · 11/03/2024 17:12

Will the oil company even fill a tank with the potential to leak? I am not in the UK but worked for an oil heating company in my home country. No way would our drivers fill a tank, which was in bad repair. The damage caused by a leak would cost ££££ and we could, as a company, be liable if we know it was not safe/damaged

The tank was a metal or iron tank, I don't know the exact material from the 90s. It has a lot of rust spots now. I didn't investigate the tank for further damage.

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Palmsun · 11/03/2024 17:29

Harp1977 · 11/03/2024 17:12

Will the oil company even fill a tank with the potential to leak? I am not in the UK but worked for an oil heating company in my home country. No way would our drivers fill a tank, which was in bad repair. The damage caused by a leak would cost ££££ and we could, as a company, be liable if we know it was not safe/damaged

The driver came last year to fill a tank, he's been with the company for years and he was the one who advised our mother that the tank is bad and needs replacing.

I have no idea how there hasn't been a note on her file with the oil company. The oil company fulfilled her request when she rang for oil before the Christmas and it will likely happen again too.

The tank is very bad now. I see evidence of oil in the ground but I don't know if that's from an old car. The car wasn't in operation for a few years (about 2 and half years and it's gone a year now from the property). There is a large black oil circle in the ground. The tank is a few metres from that circle so I don't know if it's the car or if it's the tank.

She has no intention of emptying the tank and replacing it.

I have a sibling living abroad and she's hoping on getting him home in the summer time and getting him to do the work but he's not a plumber and it's not very fair on him too. Also it's showing me up in a and light when I am willing to help but she won't let me due to her arguements and nasty tone.

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Palmsun · 11/03/2024 17:23

Dacadactyl · 11/03/2024 17:17

With respect, I do not know any 90 year old with the capacity to be messing about dealing with home repairs.

I think you need to take the bull by the horns and tell her what's happening.

Or move out.

Where did I say she was 90?

Take 20 years of 90

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Dacadactyl · 11/03/2024 17:17

With respect, I do not know any 90 year old with the capacity to be messing about dealing with home repairs.

I think you need to take the bull by the horns and tell her what's happening.

Or move out.

Harp1977 · 11/03/2024 17:12

Will the oil company even fill a tank with the potential to leak? I am not in the UK but worked for an oil heating company in my home country. No way would our drivers fill a tank, which was in bad repair. The damage caused by a leak would cost ££££ and we could, as a company, be liable if we know it was not safe/damaged

citrinetrilogy · 11/03/2024 17:04

There is another option open to you, which is to move out of your mother's home and find somewhere else to live. I think you may have posted about her before, haven't you? She's never going to change. The only thing you can change is you.

Palmsun · 11/03/2024 16:59

There's two options in replacing the tank.

  1. we drain the oil and use it all up, or
  2. we get containers and fill the oil into containers.

We were going to go for option 1 and use up all the oil and then work on replacing the tank.

Now I know she has no intention of replacing the tank.

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Palmsun · 11/03/2024 16:57

Dacadactyl · 11/03/2024 16:33

I feel you have been very placid about this.

The minute the guy said the tank needs replacing before the next fill, you should've arranged for the replacement.

Why didn't you?

I did not anticipate her ignoring this when it emerged last autumn. I know now that she's going to ignore this but when it first emerged I did not anticipate her to ignore this.

She will not let me power ahead and make plans and it will only just anger her and she wants to maintaine control and her way is just to ignore it all and make excuses and push it further down the track.

I had to deal with other repairs in the home over the winter. There was a water leak that she was ignoring and I had to take that on board and shoulder it all.

I do not have the means to shoulder an oil tank replacement by myself. She will have to do her own bit too but she's ignoring it.

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Dacadactyl · 11/03/2024 16:33

I feel you have been very placid about this.

The minute the guy said the tank needs replacing before the next fill, you should've arranged for the replacement.

Why didn't you?