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Sibling Relationships and Elderly Care

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YesIwillyesIwillYes · 08/03/2024 21:35

My mum has recently gone into a care home, after a long stay in hospital. My siblings and I have spent several weeks triggering the shit out of each other. Like it’s 1974 all over again. The behaviour has been appalling.

Did this happen to anyone else? What on earth is going on?

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rickyrickygrimes · 09/03/2024 11:19

I’m quite worried about this happening to my sister and I. We get on very well atm, have done for years since we became adults. But our lives have gone in such different paths, and our priorities have changed over time. I have two kids and they have to be my priority. She is childfree by choice. We live outside the UK, whereas she’s an hour away from my parents. She’s married late in life to a rich man, and she’s planning to retire early at 50-ish to have lots of free time with him. DH and I are going to be slogging away until we are well into our 60s. She’s a lot more sentimental and anxious than me, I’m a lot more pragmatic and quite direct. we both find our mum hard work, but having had children of my own I feel quite differently towards her now. My sister’s been in therapy for years.

it’s going to be hard to agree on what’s best for our parents when we are coming from such different perspectives.

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/03/2024 11:09

WhatNoRaisins · 09/03/2024 09:43

I think it's normal sadly, seen it with my own family and through dealing with relatives at work. It's why I'm not convinced that being an only child is always worse when it comes to this, my only child parent had a much easier time than my parent with siblings.

Yes, that’s a conclusion I came to reading this board. So glad I don’t have siblings!

Sunnnybunny72 · 09/03/2024 10:51

I didn't get on with my brother. My only sibling. Rarely saw him.
Our DM was then killed in a car accident and we had to get together to plan her funeral, empty and sell the family home of over 50 years and deal with an inquest. Spending so much time together reminded me why we never got on. Worst time of my life.
That was several years ago. Everything was finalised and I've never seen him since.

countrygirl99 · 09/03/2024 10:45

MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 09/03/2024 09:58

Same as @AnnaMagnani especially of the one who holds poa is the one who lives away and thinks that mean they can instruct the others to do things and they have to do this!!

Sounds like you know my brother!

AnnaMagnani · 09/03/2024 10:43

Possibly the worst ever family meeting I did was with a patient - lacked capacity but could say Hello to a webcam, his wife - knackered and trying to make ends meet, and his siblings - lived miles away, via Teams.

His family just sat there vetoing all suggestions that he needed a care home as his wife was exhausted and the situation was unsafe, and then said he hadn't liked the wife anyway so her opinion didn't count.

I was so close to just telling them to fuck off.

mitogoshi · 09/03/2024 10:38

Seen it in my ex's family and many times through work. It's stress related partly but also because that can bring out underlying personality traits in people.

The biggest problem we experienced in ex's family was a person living on another continent who kept encouraging the spouse of the person needing care that it was fine to keep them at home whilst having no idea just how bad it had got, then another relative not wanting a care home and openly admitting it was because they wanted their inheritance! Well I sorted out everything in the end, applying to the court of protection and continued to be the appointed person by the court way after my marriage ended (fool I was) but it was easier as the non relative in the way, nothing to gain.

Oh and don't forget the golden child scenario where the distant relative swans in, buys gifts, dinners out, even cleans house then leaves for months on end ... but they are amazing because they bought them a fancy mobility scooter - not the person dropping an evening meal off daily! Seen it all honestly and genuinely my heart goes out to all of you dealing with this right now - thankfully the only ongoing drama currently with us is the solicitors dealing with probate, and that's just paperwork, really can't get worked up about that, and the tax due is what is due, sounds flippant but it's only money.

WhatHaveIFound · 09/03/2024 10:13

Especially if one of them lives far away but likes to turn up occasionally and criticise what the one who is nearby and doing all the work has chosen to do.

Or criticises by email from afar having got half a story out of one parent!

I have now completely given up on my sibling being any help, either practically or emotionally and I can't really see us having much of a relationship after our parents have died.

AnnaMagnani · 09/03/2024 10:12

@rickyrickygrimes behaving back in the way they did age 7 and continually squabbling like a bunch of kids?

rickyrickygrimes · 09/03/2024 10:08

What does ‘triggering the shit out of each other’ mean? And what’s the reference to 1974? Sorry if I’m being dense.

saraclara · 09/03/2024 10:05

MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 09/03/2024 10:03

That sounds great @saraclara hope more people can follow your example!!

Ha! I'm no saint. If I lived locally to my mum I'd go mad. She's exceptionally difficult. So my motivation is great sympathy for my brother, and a large helping of guilt!

MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 09/03/2024 10:03

That sounds great @saraclara hope more people can follow your example!!

saraclara · 09/03/2024 10:02

Especially if one of them lives far away but likes to turn up occasionally and criticise what the one who is nearby and doing all the work has chosen to do."

That's what I've been incredibly careful not to do. I'm very aware of the advantage of living nearly two hours away.
My brother has to deal with anything that requires his presence, as he's local to her (she's in an extra care facility, so it's not day to day care stuff). But I do all the admin and phone calls and pushing for her getting the right care/financial stuff etc. Anything that I can do from a distance I insist that he passes to me.

And neither of us ever questions or criticises the other, though we do tend to run things past each other before acting.

MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 09/03/2024 09:58

Same as @AnnaMagnani especially of the one who holds poa is the one who lives away and thinks that mean they can instruct the others to do things and they have to do this!!

saraclara · 09/03/2024 09:57

I think it's very normal. Though oddly enough it brought my brother and I together! We hardly had anything to do with each other prior to my mum's stroke and consequent care. I'd moved away, and we had very little in common. We might see each other one a year, briefly.

But now, while still very different people, we're much closer, speak regularly, and are extremely supportive and loyal to each other. Navigating my mum's needs (and her temperament) is one thing that we've been able to share, practically and emotionally. I'm lucky.

AnnaMagnani · 09/03/2024 09:56

From what I see working in elderly care, more common than not.

Especially if one of them lives far away but likes to turn up occasionally and criticise what the one who is nearby and doing all the work has chosen to do.

LadyMuckonpancakes · 09/03/2024 09:52

This is what I dread and expect in our family.

olderbutwiser · 09/03/2024 09:45

My best friend’s sibling relationship imploded when their mum died. All those simmering resentments held in check just burst out. Happily it didn’t happen with my sibling and I but our caring roles were very well worked out beforehand and there were no underlying issues.

WhatNoRaisins · 09/03/2024 09:43

I think it's normal sadly, seen it with my own family and through dealing with relatives at work. It's why I'm not convinced that being an only child is always worse when it comes to this, my only child parent had a much easier time than my parent with siblings.

YesIwillyesIwillYes · 09/03/2024 09:39

PermanentTemporary · 08/03/2024 21:40

Are you normally very close? I wonder if it's actually worse if you're close.

I do think an awful lot of sibling groups contain a lot of unresolved hurts and conflicts. Mostly they don't matter, because you're grown ups and dont live together. But if your parents are vulnerable and you have to try and operate as a care committee, they all surface at once.

Yes, thank you. That’s really helpful.

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PermanentTemporary · 08/03/2024 21:40

Are you normally very close? I wonder if it's actually worse if you're close.

I do think an awful lot of sibling groups contain a lot of unresolved hurts and conflicts. Mostly they don't matter, because you're grown ups and dont live together. But if your parents are vulnerable and you have to try and operate as a care committee, they all surface at once.