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Hate talking to mother on the phone

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DoveGreys · 13/01/2024 14:33

I should start by saying we have always had a toxic and distant relationship, and this is obviously relevant. She’s 88 and fairly healthy for her age but can’t go out so easily now.

I speak to her on the phone about twice a week and do her various admin etc. She always starts with a stupid dig “where have you been?” or “hello stranger”, or “I thought you’d left the country”: of course puts my back up straight away. Then there’s usually a list of her demands and some chat. I don’t tell her much about my life. However, I often feel down/bad/annoyed afterwards, occasionally for the rest of the day.

I also see her about once a month for a full day and evening. That is sometimes easier somehow. But I hate the phone calls and I think she may be even beginning to notice that as it’s getting harder to hide (though I put on as good an act as I can).

Do I need even stronger, clearer boundaries than I have already?

I wondered if other people had any experience of this kind of dynamic and/or suggestions as to any changes I might make, something that worked for them. Or maybe a way I could reframe it?

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Digestive28 · 13/01/2024 16:26

I find wearing headphones and making a call whilst doing something else (cooking/walking dog/cleaning) helps it wash over me - I’m only half paying attention so only half as offensive.

DoveGreys · 13/01/2024 16:23

But thanks to PPs understanding, and 💐 for having had to deal with this. I hope will spur me to find some new mental and other boundaries.

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Liveslow · 13/01/2024 16:21

She sounds really difficult. I've gone nc with my parents after going to therapy and realising the emotional and psychological abuse they have put me through. There is no easy route with difficult parents, but you can set your mum straight... ask her to stop the behaviour or you will leave!

DoveGreys · 13/01/2024 16:19

@greengreengrass25 Thanks. She tried WhatsApp/texts for a while - but it didn’t last. I hope she doesn’t revive it as it could be irritating too - “Where are you?” or random messages. In her case it was on top of, rather than instead of, the phone calls and visits. Though I know for some people it works.

It’s just like my body is screaming “distance, distance” but I suspect she might struggle with / object to once a week phone calls.

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NorthernSpirit · 13/01/2024 16:10

I don’t know if my mum is a narcissist or is neurodivergent. We have a toxic relationship and I get nothing out of it.

She makes very little effort with me - I’ve lived in this house for 8 years and she’s never visited (despite being asked).

I’ve been with my partner / now husband for 10 years - doesn’t know his (my married name), despite telling her many times.

She doesn’t ring me (wouldn’t think to even ring me in Christmas Day) and when I ring her - she’s cold, and there’s always a passive aggressive dig ‘so and so’s parents fuss over him’….. ‘she spent a lot of time with her parents’, her absolute favourite is ‘does (husbands name) control you’. When she speaks to me I get triggered and I can feel myself reacting.

I used to phone her every Sunday (she would never ring me) but I was always anxious before the call and upset after it. She always takes absolutely no interest in my life - for example I got married last year and she wasn’t interested in the wedding whatsoever. I worked overseas for a year - never once asked anything about it.

After years of ‘doing the right thing’ by phoning her and feeling absolutely shit on a Sunday when I rang her I realised I would never have the relationship with her I would like to have and I got absolutely nothing out of the call.

So I stopped calling and went LC. The relief has been immense.

If she can’t be pleasant, reduce contact. If a friend treated you like this - would you still have them in your life?

greengreengrass25 · 13/01/2024 15:46

Yes I know what you are saying

Do they use texts

SeriouslyAgain · 13/01/2024 15:21

It's really hard to deal with. My DM always used her 'surprised' voice and said something like 'oh gosh hello!' as if it was a complete shock to see me - even though I visited at least once a week and usually more.
I just tried really hard not to take it personally and tell myself that she was sort of needy and insecure and that it was a mechanism for somehow protecting herself...
I guess that it's about trying to understand them, not in order to be forgiving of their coldness as parents, but as self-protection for you (if that makes sense).

Aydel · 13/01/2024 14:36

My mother was exactly the same “Oh I thought something must have happened to you/you must have had an accident.”

Then there was a list of: who had died, who had been in hospital, who was or wasn’t on the shopping bus, how they had given her the wrong coffee in Asda.

I used to let it wash over me. And sort out her admin/list of demands when I went over.

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