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funnelfan · 04/03/2024 08:37

The authorities don’t push it and seem satisfied that we can manage everything.

@CarrotsHandbagsCheese i was moved by your post but this bit stood out. Of course the authorities will be happy for you to wear yourself out because it’s one less case for them to actively manage with their own stretched resources. However it sounds very dependent on you being available and what if you weren’t? I world encourage you to contact your local adult services and to think of it like back up in case you were ill or injured or unable to leave your DD.

It’s so very hard trying to keep elderly parents in the family home but the emotional blackmail from your dad is very unfair of him (even if he can’t help it).

PermanentTemporary · 04/03/2024 06:30

@CarrotsHandbagsCheese I just wanted to acknowledge your post. I don't have any advice but wanted to say that it affected me to read about your life. What you're doing is extraordinary.

TheShellBeach · 04/03/2024 00:42

@CarrotsHandbagsCheese
I mean this kindly but it sounds like it's time your parents went into residential care. They're clearly not safe where they are.
And you have a small child who needs your full attention.

CarrotsHandbagsCheese · 04/03/2024 00:21

I'm an only child to two parents with Alzheimer's, both of whom have lost mental capacity. I also have a 5-year-old DD with multiple disabilities.

I manage all their finances, medications, life admin and appointments, clean their enormous house and do their food shopping. My DH, on top of his full-time, full-on job, cooks for them 3 times a week. They refuse all external help except a meal service I’ve arranged for them on the days we can’t provide hot food and even then, Mum throws hers in the bin. The authorities don’t push it and seem satisfied that we can manage everything.

My dad can’t hold information in his brain for longer than 10 seconds, phones me every half hour to ask the same questions on repeat when I’m not with him, and frequently phones the police to report relatives missing who have been dead for 50+ years. He has never acquired any domestic skills and cannot learn them now that Mum has lost hers - he can’t even work the microwave. He’s convinced that his wife his mum, frequently hallucinates and doesn’t recognise his own home. He once had a high-flying career and is acutley aware of his cognitive decline. He’s so used to being the one everyone depends on that he constantly invents ‘problems’ he needs to solve - before we stopped him driving he was spending a fortune on petrol driving across the UK to visit long-deceased relatives who he was convinced needed his help. He can’t get it into his head that he no longer has a car and keeps reporting it stolen! Caring for him is labour intensive but at least he’s grateful for everything we do to keep him ‘independent’ in his own home. He begs me daily to not give up on him - his worst nightmare is ending up in care and losing his home of 52 years and everything he’s ever worked for. When I can no longer fulfill his wishes and when I eventually lose him I will be devastated.

I’ve long since mourned for my mum - it’s like she’s had a personality transplant she’s so removed from her former self. The only part of her personality that remains is her stubborn streak. She hates being around anyone except my dad and when I visit she’ll either hide away in her bathroom or try and shoo me out of the front door. She has no idea who I am so she sees me as an intruder and an interference. She’ll actively fight me if she sees me taking her dirty laundry away to be washed or trying to change her bedding. She’s recently stopped washing and attacks me when I try to help. Sometimes she’ll look at me with pure hatred in her eyes. She survives on cake and has become a skeleton. She’s lost the capacity to comprehend language or speak except for four words that she utters on repeat, out of context. Her behaviour is heartbreaking and terrifies my DD.

They’re both remarkably physically fit for their ages (79 and 75). Last year, my mum escaped from the hospital ward and wasn’t found for 6 hours - by that point she’d walked 5 miles across the city in her slippers with no coat in subzero nighttime temperatures. She was entirely physically unscathed and has no concept of the impact this had on the family.

She was the best mum I could ask for when I was a child, but all the light she brought into my life has been overshadowed by the hell she causes on a daily basis. Her mum also had dementia and lived an utterly miserable existence in a home for the last 11 years of her life. Mum was extremely vocal at the time that if she ever went the same way to put a pillow over her head because she didn’t want to be a burden on anyone and there were worse things than death. Clearly, that’s out of the question, but I find myself longing for her to pass peacefully in her sleep as soon as possible, so save her this dire indignity.

From reading this thread, I’m under no illusion that we’re anywhere near the end. No doubt things will get much worse, I just never envisaged we’d be in this situation so soon, when my first priority must be my additional-needs 5-year-old. I’ll keep trying for as long as I can, however long that may be. I feel as though I’m spread so thinly yet every time I feel I’ve reached my limit I seem to find new reserves of perseverance.

I’m not entirely sure what I hope to gain from posting, I just needed to vent. I’m so sorry to hear that others are going through similarly soul-destroying situations.

JaceLancs · 03/03/2024 22:59

Forgot to add and suspect I will spend my 60s caring for DM with Alzheimer’s - as she isn’t going anywhere anytime soon - which I’m grateful for at the same time as struggling with

JaceLancs · 03/03/2024 22:57

I’m nearly 60 and feel I’ve spent most of my 50s dealing with elderly parents - just as I’d sort of got DC through the teens and early 20s in my 40s
I wonder when I’ll get a break if ever?
So many friends of similar age are dealing with cancer or other serious health issues - I think will I be next - my arthritis has been awful in this cold damp weather and I’m still working full time and don’t ever see I will be able to retire

Hoplolly · 03/03/2024 21:43

It's the same here @AgitatedGoose

AgitatedGoose · 03/03/2024 21:23

SeriouslyAgain · 03/03/2024 19:17

Sending condolences to those who've been bereaved. It must be a strange time when the end has taken a long time to come.
My DM is still going. Months after the 'end of life pathway'. Haven't been on MN much because it just feels as if this may never end. I am starting to wonder what will happen if I die before her. I'm only in my 50s but it really feels as if I'm being ground out of existence.

My Mum also seems to go on and on. She's end stages Alzheimer's, doesn't respond to anything and has to have everything done for her. It's awful to see and I wonder how much longer this will continue. I've started to leave it to my step Dad to phone the home to see how she is because I can't bear it when the staff cheerfully tell me she's fine. How can anyone who looks like a breathing zombie be fine for gods sake.

SeriouslyAgain · 03/03/2024 19:17

Sending condolences to those who've been bereaved. It must be a strange time when the end has taken a long time to come.
My DM is still going. Months after the 'end of life pathway'. Haven't been on MN much because it just feels as if this may never end. I am starting to wonder what will happen if I die before her. I'm only in my 50s but it really feels as if I'm being ground out of existence.

WhatEverNextNow999 · 03/03/2024 11:24

For those grieving, I found Cruise really helpful with online support. There are a few questions, then short videos on topics like “I don’t feel I’m coping with my grief”

https://www.cruse.org.uk/get-support/

The content varies depending which areas you’ve said you are struggling with. Also a support line to chat to them.

Get support - Cruse Bereavement Support

We're here to help you no matter how long you've been grieving. Learn more about our different bereavement support services here.

https://www.cruse.org.uk/get-support/

WhatEverNextNow999 · 03/03/2024 11:18

MereDintofPandiculation · 02/03/2024 15:50

@Backofthenet20 Has anyone registered the death? It's supposed to be done within 5 days if there isn't a postmortem.

In my area the doctor sends the initial form to the registrar and they phone you to go over the details.

Mum died early in the morning, the hospital emailed the form to me and the registrar by the afternoon, and they phoned three days later. The registrar had looked out mum’s birth and marriage certificates before the call, so she had most of the details already.

it was really straightforward.

SheepAndSword · 03/03/2024 06:48

@Backofthenet20 💐

It's normal to feel a bit numb/stunned at first

MereDintofPandiculation · 02/03/2024 21:27

Backofthenet20 · 02/03/2024 18:56

We haven’t had the death certificate yet. We will get it registered early next week

I was involved in this for the first time in my life, and was shocked at how little time you had to do it!

Backofthenet20 · 02/03/2024 18:56

MereDintofPandiculation · 02/03/2024 15:50

@Backofthenet20 Has anyone registered the death? It's supposed to be done within 5 days if there isn't a postmortem.

We haven’t had the death certificate yet. We will get it registered early next week

MissMarplesNiece · 02/03/2024 18:40

@Backofthenet20 So sorry to hear your sad news. I understand your feelings.

funnelfan · 02/03/2024 18:28

MereDintofPandiculation · 02/03/2024 15:50

@Backofthenet20 Has anyone registered the death? It's supposed to be done within 5 days if there isn't a postmortem.

I’d love to know if that is being adhered to these days. When DF died just before Covid, it took that long to get the piece of paper signed by the doctor on the ward. The paper that you have to take to the registrar to get the death registered. I seem to remember several days of ringing the bereavement team at the hospital and them being very apologetic but not being able to get hold of the doctor as they were always in surgery and never around when the office was open. It was a strange few days when we couldn’t do anything.

Tara336 · 02/03/2024 16:37

@Backofthenet20 I'm so sorry for your loss

MereDintofPandiculation · 02/03/2024 15:50

@Backofthenet20 Has anyone registered the death? It's supposed to be done within 5 days if there isn't a postmortem.

Backofthenet20 · 02/03/2024 15:42

MereDintofPandiculation · 02/03/2024 10:16

@Backofthenet20 It’s a funny time, just after you’ve lost someone. I think “I’m not quite sure how I’m supposed to-feel” is your brain’s anaesthetic to get through the first few days. Don’t push anything, go with the flow, and you have nothing to feel guilty about.

Edited

We found out about Dads death early on Friday. We had a planned weekend away with my grown up son and his fiancée. They had already set off and everything is paid for. We have decided to go away too today. It feels a bit disrespectful but I know Dad would have said to go. We don’t live close to our son, so this is something we will not do for some time. My brother is in the same position of having a booking that they would lose and also has gone. I think some of the optics are about how others expect you to be. I think one thing death has taught me is to do what you are able to. Experience and spend time with loved ones. Yesterday was a real cluster though. I loaded up the car with things for charity and forgot to go. I rewashed clean bedding by accident. My head was a shed and all over the place. I also found out that my Mums cousin passed away after an accident due to a head injury. Very sad news. I still haven’t cried. I appreciate every message from you and have taken a lot of comfort from you all and your stories.

TheShellBeach · 02/03/2024 11:57

Sending you love @Backofthenet20

MereDintofPandiculation · 02/03/2024 10:16

@Backofthenet20 It’s a funny time, just after you’ve lost someone. I think “I’m not quite sure how I’m supposed to-feel” is your brain’s anaesthetic to get through the first few days. Don’t push anything, go with the flow, and you have nothing to feel guilty about.

MereDintofPandiculation · 02/03/2024 10:10

@JellyWellyBoots If they’re not reading non verbal cues, then give them verbal ones. Say explicitly “I’m busy, I don’t have time to talk” with as much or as little softening of the edges as you feel able at the time. It may feel rude, but it’s preferable to being driven to “FFS, piss off!”

Some people can’t read non-verbal cues, it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re bad people, but they have a difficult time in life.

AgitatedGoose · 02/03/2024 10:05

@JellyWellyBoots I think it’s very common to feel irritable towards others when you’re grieving. What you need is empathy and support and not other people off loading their shit onto you. You have enough to deal with arranging your Dad’s funeral and dealing with everything else. As other posters have said I’d take a week or more off work particularly if you’re in an unsupportive workplace.

AgitatedGoose · 02/03/2024 10:01

@Backofthenet20 So sorry to hear your sad news but please don’t feel guilty. Non of us would want a person to suffer a long, painful and drawn out death which unfortunately so many do. Look after yourself.

JellyWellyBoots · 02/03/2024 07:09

@WhatEverNextNow999
I don’t entertain this. I literally just hold up hand and say, sorry I’m not in a place to to have this chat, bye….

I've been holding my head up high and continuing to go into work, but this person is destroying my soul. They will talk at me for what feels like hours. They have a story to tell about absolutely anything & everything, I could mention 'cheese' & suddenly I'm being told an in depth story about how this person once worked in a cheese factory with their friend Tim. Suddenly I know everything there is to know about Tim, what colour the factory doors were, what car Tim drives.
It's made worse by long pauses and a constant clearing of throat.
Why is this grating me so much? I've got to the point I outright ignore.
I don't fucking need it, some people don't understand how to read non verbal ques that suggest IM BUSY.

And breathe.