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Mum’s put downs: how would you respond?

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LookOverHere · 14/10/2023 13:23

My 78 year old mum can be funny and charming at times, but can quickly become difficult and make nasty comments. Sometimes I blow up, sometimes I walk out, I sometimes feel like crying, but recently I ignore and silently seethe, because if I react she calls me touchy, and to me that’s the tactic of a bully. What do you think is the best response?

Recent comments include: “your hair is thinning”, “you’re losing your eyebrows”, “you look like you just got out of prison”, “you have sturdy legs”, “your walking got very heavy”, “hello zitty” and many more gems like this…

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ElleCapitaine · 18/10/2023 07:29

She’s negging you - trying to make you feel small so that she still has the upper hand. She keeps doing it because she know it gets a reaction and keeps you in your place. Best thing to do is laugh heartily and reply something like the following:

‘I know, mother dearest. I inherited it from you.’

’Ooh, saucer of milk. Table for one.’

’Does being spiteful come naturally to you, or did you have to work at it?’

’I truly am my mother’s daughter. Can’t wait for the saggy arse and flaky skin to kick in.’

‘Hello, Zitty’
’Hello, Big Nose’

’Your hair’s got thin’
’Unlike your back side’

’You have sturdy legs.’
’ Could be worse. At least I didn’t inherit your cankles’

‘You look like you just got out of prison’
’You look like you’re still in prison’

‘Your walking got very heavy’
’We’ll not be seeing you on Strictly Come Dancing anytime soon either’

It shows you’re not taking her seriously when she says something like that, that it doesn’t mean anything to you, and that if she chooses to insult you then she has to expect an insult back.

Flintwhistle · 18/10/2023 07:22

jeanne16 · 18/10/2023 07:09

This sounds as if it could be early signs of dementia. People say things that they never would normally. I would try to get her checked out.

That's a lot easier said than done in my experience! Particularly with a parent who has always been difficult, there is usually a whole raft of denial. There is no doubt that mine is showing clear signs of dementia but at the moment she can still present beautifully for heath care professionals.

Flintwhistle · 18/10/2023 07:18

How did she respond @LookOverHere ?

jeanne16 · 18/10/2023 07:09

This sounds as if it could be early signs of dementia. People say things that they never would normally. I would try to get her checked out.

terraced · 18/10/2023 06:46

Flintwhistle · 14/10/2023 13:46

My mother does this. It's very frustrating because pretty much any response is 'wrong'. I am over sensitive, or I have no sense of humour, or she didn't mean it. She likes to compare and contrast with other family members or her carers too. I visit in order to help her out but I go in with an anxious feeling in the pit of my stomach. Every single time! I try not to visit her on my own as she's better when there are more people there.
I have started leaving longer between visits, which helps my sanity. I think she might be making the connection between her being rude, and less contact from me. I can't chat with her about it because she makes herself out to be a victim every time. She can dish it out but can't take anything she perceives as criticism at all, however tactfully i try.

Same for mine! It's very difficult

unlikelychump · 18/10/2023 06:33

Welldone op. That was a big deal.

Lots of good tips on here, I need them too. Visiting my mother next week for the first time in ages, I've really cut it down due to the way she is

Healingfrommothernarc · 18/10/2023 06:30

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binkie163 · 18/10/2023 06:17

@LookOverHere well done, you deserve a rest from it for a while x

LookOverHere · 17/10/2023 21:32

I just had an emotional call with her now and decided to confront her. She did the usual “but I was joking!” rubbish, and I said “nobody is laughing - you have a terrible sense of humour”. I also said it reinforces the sexist notion that all that’s important about women is what they look like, and that we’ve got to do better and not be women tearing other women down. I finished by saying that the most depressing thing is that she’s just replicating how her mother spoke to her (gran was an absolute monster to my mum) and probably doesn’t even reflect on that or why she’s so critical, but that she can do that in her own time, I refuse to analyse her harsh behaviour. I won’t see her now for a while. Let’s see what happens next time. Thanks for all the replies and advice. Seems many of us in the same boat. Sad, but true.

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SiouxsieSiouxStiletto · 17/10/2023 18:20

My DM can be like this. She once said "you've put weight on". It was met with "it'll take me a bloody long time to catch up with you though won't it?".

"D"M has always been a bit critical of everyone else's weight so this one didn't go down too well. I'd never usually say anything like that to anyone but she really pissed me off that day.

At the moment she's being as nice as pie though because I think that the penny has finally dropped that if she's horrible I just get up and go home.

BettyPhuckzer · 16/10/2023 07:53

Either go NC or, each time she says something nasty say : ' are you feeling OK, Mum? '

Keep saying that

She'll get bored eventually

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 16/10/2023 07:44

TBH I’d say ‘If you’re going to be nasty, I’m going home now.’

My DM who had dementia, sometimes used to say horrible (and quite untrue) things about my dh and dds, it was very upsetting. Just once I said, ‘If you’re going to keep saying horrible things, I’m going home NOW!’ - and I meant it, and she must have known I did, since even with dementia, she did stop.
(I lived 60 miles away, so couldn’t be popping in non stop).

Your DM doesn’t even have the excuse of dementia! I wouldn’t feel in the least bad about walking out - after a warning. She must know that these comments upset you.

Lavenderosa · 14/10/2023 19:33

If I behaved like that to my adult daughter, she'd tell me not to be so rude and if I kept it up, she'd refuse to see me.

Your mother is bullying you with her belittling comments and you don't have to put up with it. Tell her very firmly to stop it and spell out the consequences if she doesn't. Ignore her calling you 'touchy' - just focus on making it clear that if she wants to be in your life, she has to stop insulting you.

FictionalCharacter · 14/10/2023 19:23

LuisVitton · 14/10/2023 13:39

Hi Mum, I’m phoning cos I don’t like your rude criticisms of me so we won’t be round for a bit,

This is a good tactic. Her actions would then have consequences, without her having the satisfaction of seeing you get annoyed or upset.

greenbeansnspinach · 14/10/2023 18:46

I did something that actually made a difference.
I prepared very carefully for the conversation and made notes of what I wanted to say. Bullet points including examples, the impact her unpleasant comments had on me. I went round as usual and said I needed her to listen, and very calmly, keeping my voice steady, even though I was very nervous, went through my “script”. I ended by saying that I found the way she spoke to me rude and completely unacceptable and said I would not tolerate it in future. I didn’t make any threats like “I won’t see you again”. Obviously she tried to argue, asked me for examples (I had plenty) but after this short conversation I refused to be drawn any further even though she was going into nervous breakdown mode in front of me (“I don’t know why you’re speaking to me like this” etc etc). I changed the subject to normal matters and left in a pleasant way.
I was very fortunate in that after this, to my amazement, my mother changed her attitude towards me and left out the nasty comments, mainly. Every time it seemed to be starting again I calmly said that I wouldn’t tolerate it. My mother proved that she was capable of reflection and change and not everyone is. And I had to really be brave to do it, as I felt completely sick before and during and after my little “speech” but it was definitely worth it.
Mum is no longer what she was due to cognitive decline and luckily her personality has changed for the better as a result, but we had several much easier years beforehand.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/10/2023 15:50

NoMor · 14/10/2023 15:32

You could laugh it off and tell her you always look forward to her criticism and can't wait for next week's. Maybe even tell her that the last few have been quite unimaginative so she really needs to up her game.

If it's about your appearance tell her it's clearly genetic.

A simple, 'The insults have started so I'm off' and leave, every time.

I agree with this:

A simple, 'The insults have started so I'm off' and leave, every time.

No emotional response, no counter attack, no comment back to her, and no 'flouncing'. Calmly gather your things and walk out the door at the first insulting word out of her mouth. If she says anything else, keep on walking. You aren't going to change her, so the best thing to do is remove yourself from 'the problem'.

I wouldn't care if we were in the middle of a meal, sitting and watching telly, or just chatting over tea, I'd stop what I was doing and leave.

NoMor · 14/10/2023 15:32

You could laugh it off and tell her you always look forward to her criticism and can't wait for next week's. Maybe even tell her that the last few have been quite unimaginative so she really needs to up her game.

If it's about your appearance tell her it's clearly genetic.

A simple, 'The insults have started so I'm off' and leave, every time.

LookOverHere · 14/10/2023 15:17

@ActDottie Yikes! My sisters pregnancy also triggered a wave of bitchy comments from my mum. It seemed like she felt threatened by it, didn’t want my sister to have it too easy, because her own pregnancies were difficult. I found it quite sad to watch. I really think women shouldn’t tear each other down. Life is hard enough as it is. Wishing you all the peace and positivity with your pregnancy!

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GreekDogRescue · 14/10/2023 15:05

I’d stop seeing her

ActDottie · 14/10/2023 15:04

Yep my mum does this.

Currently pregnant and she’s told me to lose weight and “in January lose weight” the same month baby arrives…

And if I lose weight my pregnancy won’t be so bad and I’m dramatic about it. I’m not massively overweight bmi about 28/29 and I was losing weight when I was trying to get pregnant and I asked the midwives if I should continue and they said no just maintain.

Also got my hair cut because I was fed up of brushing it… and got told that it looked better longer and blonder.

Oh and she’s called me a tramp before because of my choice of clothing.

Every time I try defend myself she just goes on about some crap about me not being happy…

IncognitoMam · 14/10/2023 15:00

LookOverHere · 14/10/2023 14:52

@binkie163 Thank you, are our mums related?! Unfortunately I just overplucked my eyebrows in the 90’s, major regret lol

I'd recommend microblading. Totally changed my brows.

LookOverHere · 14/10/2023 14:56

@MysterOfwomanY "Basically, channel the slomo bullet dodging in The Matrix” - I just laughed out loud in my empty house, so funny! Love it thank you!

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LookOverHere · 14/10/2023 14:52

@binkie163 Thank you, are our mums related?! Unfortunately I just overplucked my eyebrows in the 90’s, major regret lol

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LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 14/10/2023 14:46

You need to practise the emotional detachment. Don't reply at all to these hurtful comments and definitely get up and leave every time. That's what I did. She's looking for a response. Don't give her one.

IncognitoMam · 14/10/2023 14:39

FloofCloud · 14/10/2023 14:25

I think what that poster was saying was a throw back at your mum, not you 😋

Yes she was