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Caring for an angry, selfish parent, how do you cope?!!!!

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Longingforthesummer · 21/07/2023 14:42

DD 90s on own, now no mobility, lung condition, carers in 4 times a day, family member here also inbetween to make sure all ok.

He is so angry which I get, but because...
He cant do as he used to be able to e.g. walk, go to the toilet on stairlift, make a cup of tea etc.he is so miserable, depressed and angry

Doesnt feel well alot of the time...which again I do all I can to make him comfy. Nurses, GP also perscribe meds yo help with aches and pains etc.

Very Achey as sat in chair most of day...got him.a recliner...after 3-4 days didnt want it

Just all round miserable and very un appreciative of everything we are trying to do to make him comfortable. Been going on now for 2 and a half months.

OT Got him.a special chair that has pressure cushions all around it...doesnt want it, wants old chair back. But je now has a pressure sore so has to stay in it.
He refused to be movedaround 3 times last week, so was in his chair from 8am until 4pm no movemwnt, carees cant enforce it, so no wonder he has a sore. You tell him this and he just says thats 'rubbish'.

Nothing is good enough, adament he wants to stay in his own home, he has capacity.

Sorry not sure what help or advice anyone can give, maybe I just needed to vent!!!

Im currently sat on tbe stairs as dont want to be in the same room as him as he just dismisses everything I suggest to help.

OP posts:
DustyLee123 · 21/07/2023 16:01

We were told DMIL ( similar situation to you with carers and being angry) had dementia, along with other things, and she wouldn’t last long. She went another 7 years.

TheOldLadyOfThreadneedleStreet · 21/07/2023 15:59

I’m quite surprised at some of the replies on this thread, they seem to lack empathy. I’ve been in a similar situation with my MIL and my DF, who were both lovely people until their final months. Not being able to do basic things and self care, plus pain is really hard and can make people short tempered and downright nasty. Doctors can’t give accurate estimates of how long someone has left. Personally I’d say be kind when you are there to the extent that you can. With my DF I used to agree with him how awful everything had got. If it is too much for you to handle, and these situations are horrible, go less often. I found being there at the same time as the doctor every now and then helped as I got a bit more insight into how things were progressing and asked him about how to handle the nastiness and how normal it was. This helped me. And do talk to someone about this IRL if you can OP, you could swap coping strategies for example. Anyway good luck with it all.

dodobookends · 21/07/2023 15:56

Beeonmyeyelash · 21/07/2023 15:45

Sorry I disagree. So what if he tells people she's angry and shouting at him? Anyone would be angry at being treated badly. She doesn't have to put up with it just because he's old, just because he's ill or just because he's her dad. A short sharp shock might solve the problem. He's behaving this way because he can, because he thinks she'll tolerate it. It's worth a try before walking away from the shit show. Because that's her only other option if she doesn't want to be treated badly.

And if he tells the carers and they report her to social services for elder abuse?

My relative died several months ago, and we had two years of looking after her in her own home with the help of carers. It is unbelievably frustrating and sometimes we felt like screaming, but you can't get angry and shout at someone in their 90's. You just can't.

GardeningIdiot · 21/07/2023 15:52

What was he like before this, OP? When you were growing up?

ManchesterLu · 21/07/2023 15:47

thatsnotmylifeitstoocrazy · 21/07/2023 15:41

stop enabling to stay in his own home if you are. Its not his choice if he needs so much help.

Absolutely this. Although I imagine the vast majority of people would 'prefer to stay at home', the fact is that they might be much more happy and comfortable elsewhere, and you'd be able to have a much more positive relationship with them for the remainder of their life.

Beeonmyeyelash · 21/07/2023 15:45

Sorry I disagree. So what if he tells people she's angry and shouting at him? Anyone would be angry at being treated badly. She doesn't have to put up with it just because he's old, just because he's ill or just because he's her dad. A short sharp shock might solve the problem. He's behaving this way because he can, because he thinks she'll tolerate it. It's worth a try before walking away from the shit show. Because that's her only other option if she doesn't want to be treated badly.

dodobookends · 21/07/2023 15:41

Beeonmyeyelash · 21/07/2023 15:29

Yes I talk to him calmly and say I understand and sympsthise but Im doung all I can to help make him comfy etc. Then I get I cant understand you, you're talking too much, go away etc.

I'm suggesting you don't talk to him calmly. Let him see you lose your temper at the way he's treating you. You don't owe a rude person politeness. Being ill doesn't give him a right to treat you badly.

I'm not sure that the OP can lose her temper at him. It wouldn't turn out well if he then told the carers that his daughter was angry and shouting at him? She needs to remain calm and not lose it in front of him.

thatsnotmylifeitstoocrazy · 21/07/2023 15:41

Longingforthesummer · 21/07/2023 14:42

DD 90s on own, now no mobility, lung condition, carers in 4 times a day, family member here also inbetween to make sure all ok.

He is so angry which I get, but because...
He cant do as he used to be able to e.g. walk, go to the toilet on stairlift, make a cup of tea etc.he is so miserable, depressed and angry

Doesnt feel well alot of the time...which again I do all I can to make him comfy. Nurses, GP also perscribe meds yo help with aches and pains etc.

Very Achey as sat in chair most of day...got him.a recliner...after 3-4 days didnt want it

Just all round miserable and very un appreciative of everything we are trying to do to make him comfortable. Been going on now for 2 and a half months.

OT Got him.a special chair that has pressure cushions all around it...doesnt want it, wants old chair back. But je now has a pressure sore so has to stay in it.
He refused to be movedaround 3 times last week, so was in his chair from 8am until 4pm no movemwnt, carees cant enforce it, so no wonder he has a sore. You tell him this and he just says thats 'rubbish'.

Nothing is good enough, adament he wants to stay in his own home, he has capacity.

Sorry not sure what help or advice anyone can give, maybe I just needed to vent!!!

Im currently sat on tbe stairs as dont want to be in the same room as him as he just dismisses everything I suggest to help.

stop enabling to stay in his own home if you are. Its not his choice if he needs so much help.

toochesterdraws · 21/07/2023 15:38

If he still has capacity and tells you to go away, then say "All right then" and just go.

Beeonmyeyelash · 21/07/2023 15:29

Yes I talk to him calmly and say I understand and sympsthise but Im doung all I can to help make him comfy etc. Then I get I cant understand you, you're talking too much, go away etc.

I'm suggesting you don't talk to him calmly. Let him see you lose your temper at the way he's treating you. You don't owe a rude person politeness. Being ill doesn't give him a right to treat you badly.

Longingforthesummer · 21/07/2023 15:24

Thank you for the replies.
Ive suggested anti depressants nut he wont have them again dismisses it all.
Yes I talk to him calmly and say I understand and sympsthise but Im doung all I can to help make him comfy etc. Then I get I cant understand you, you're talking too much, go away etc.
GP said he only really will go downhill from here in her opinion he will just give up and gave him a couple of months to live. We are now 2 and a half months.

Todays a bad day, had no breakfast...that all he has cereal but refuses to have that today. I can see the decline and just have to ride it out Im sure

OP posts:
Beeonmyeyelash · 21/07/2023 14:54

I understand his feelings but I'd be telling him in no uncertain terms it's not in to be taking it out on you and that if he doesn't stop, you'll stop visiting. If that doesn't work, follow through with it. Also speak to him/his doctor or social worker, if you're in contact with them, about the possibility of antidepressants. He's in his 90's, this isn't a phase he's going to work through by himself or with a counsellor and come out the other side with acceptance of his situation. It's a shit situation that isn't going to change, he's in his final years, there's nothing wrong with a little chemical assistance to help him cope.

DustyLee123 · 21/07/2023 14:45

I’d leave him to the carers and not go in very often.
When he gets to the point of needing care more often, or refusing care, you need to get a SS assessment.

TeeBee · 21/07/2023 14:45

I think at 90 I'd just sit it out if its not a usual character trait. She sounds in pain, uncomfortable and pissed off. I'd hope someone was kind to me in my final years if I'd not been so my whole life.

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