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How do I make peace with this?

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MissingYellowzigzags · 02/01/2023 07:03

DM (75, good health)has finally written a will after 2 years of discussion and upset. She has left a small amount to each grandchild and divided the rest of her estate (approx £1mil) between my 2 siblings. I get her engagement ring (£1500). That’s it. Her reasoning is that ‘you don’t need the money’ and ‘we’ve spent more time together, which is more important’. Siblings and I all earn in the same ballpark. My DH earns significantly more than siblings. She simply doesn’t get that it’s not about the money it’s about value and fairness. I’d be fine if she was giving it all away- that would be fair. What have I done that makes me so undeserving?
my mum used to be my rock. We were so close. I’m really struggling to move on from this. Has anyone been in a similar position and managed to make peace with a parental choice like this?

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Paq · 02/01/2023 10:20

My sister is a millionaire and lives abroad so does nothing practical for my parents. I live locally to them and am decidedly not a millionaire 😀

They are splitting everything 50:50, as well they should!

MissingYellowzigzags · 02/01/2023 10:18

@HoppingPavlova I don’t think most families are like yours!!

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rookiemere · 02/01/2023 10:15

I would write her a letter saying what you have said here, how it hurts not to be treated equally and finish with saying that whilst you love her, you feel you need to take a break from her for a while.

It sounds like someone- one of your siblings? - has been giving her incorrect information about your DHs salary.

Colourinsidethelines · 02/01/2023 10:13

I’ve no advice on moving forward I’m afraid. I would struggle moving past this and I would certainly be withdrawing some of what you do for her. She can pay for care and use the precious boys inheritance.

CampervanKween · 02/01/2023 10:12

Completely unfair OP. I would be so upset in your position and I don't think I would be able to move past it I'm afraid.

I would definitely recommend she spend her money on carers when needed however as I would not be available to help out.

lazymum99 · 02/01/2023 10:09

This happened to a friend of mine. She has a ‘useless’ brother who stood to inherit the whole lot. Her mother didn’t feel her daughter needed it. However, daughter was the carer when she got old and ill which went on for a few years.
so my friend decided that her mother should stay in her home and have 24 hour private carers which considerably diminished the funds going to her brother.
I suggest your mother is forced to use the inheritance for care and you step aside.

Penguinsaregreat · 02/01/2023 10:07

I think if she back too.
Id let both brothers know that you are not happy and that you will not be providing care for your mother. When that time comes she will need to pay for care and that will come out if their inheritance.
She is leaving g them both half a million pounds and expects you to be happy with a second hand ring!!!!!!
Im not money oriented btw. I’ve had to work hard all my life and have never inherited a penny. However I would be letting all 3 know how you feel and to make sure your brothers know they will be expected to step up from now on regarding all matters.

ConnieSaks · 02/01/2023 10:05

Only you can choose how you make peace with this - personally I would do what I felt was best for me (which would be by creating some considerable detachment and distance). 💐

My DB is the golden child - but even my narc mother has divided her estate fairly (though I suspect because she knows she can’t rely on DB and that I would walk away if she did something similar). Also I am close to, and like my DB so if she were to change anything then he would arrange a deed of variation - in addition some assets have already been gifted to us (fairly)!

Knotaknitter · 02/01/2023 09:59

I think it hinges on your siblings being male. You don't need money as your husband will provide for you, they have families to provide for. My mother was older than yours but that would have been her thinking. Her will, made when my son was about four, left the bulk of her estate to him and any future grandchildren because I didn't need the money as my husband would provide for me. It was her money, she could do what she liked with it but it did feel that my son was more important to her than I was. I didn't say anything but it stung.

Fast forward sixteen years. By then I was widowed, the grandson didn't come and play with granny any more and she'd started relying on me more for help with her day to day living. Everything had changed and she changed her will too. I felt recognised but I suspect that it was really because my husband had died so I was no longer "provided for".

Srgcatherinecawood · 02/01/2023 09:57

@MissingYellowzigzags it really is shit, isn’t it. And the irony of me predicting when I was younger, ‘you know it’ll be me looking after you at the end, don’t you? You won’t see them for dust’ and then it came true. And she knows it.

it isn’t the money, it is the unfairness when you haven’t done anything wrong that is the kicker. And the fact someone is happy to have you run ragged with a 200mile round trip at the same time. Honestly, walk away. Best thing I’ve done for me and my family, I do not snap at anyone, I don’t spend hours on the phone trying to report the financial abuse to SS (who do not give a shiny shit even though the evidence is immense). In the end, who was I worried would judge me for walking away? My Mother’s next door neighbour? (A woman who is genuinely lovely that my mother slags off all of the time)? The ex-neighbour (a woman in her fifties who takes £200 in cash from her for her birthday every year 🤔, for context, I got £0 )? Anyone who knows me, knows I am kind, generous and fair. Their opinions matter. Let those on the ‘payroll’ judge away.

As an aside. My sibling left our mother with no one over Christmas (we were 200miles away at the IL’s). I feel no guilt. She has reaped what she has sown. I warned her about sibling twat partner (coercive control, narc tendencies) like your DB’s coke habit she has ignored it.

You matter to the people who truly know you. My actual family are my friends who call me to have a chat, know how I think, ask how I am. I wouldn’t choose to be friends with my sibling which probably speaks volumes. Know your self-worth. Do some reading and reach the conclusion that suits you. It is easy on an anonymous forum to just say walk away. It took me three years to do it and in that time it caused me massive issues including putting my health at risk. Consider why you feel obligated and examine that.

Having a dysfunctional relationship like this with a mother is a social taboo. We’re supposed to value a mother, ‘she’s the only one you’ll have, blah blah’ but sometimes you aren’t blessed with the mother you deserve.

NotBloodyCovid · 02/01/2023 09:54

Well if you are not in the will then surely you are relinquished from care duties. Your DM essentially cuts you out and then expects you to care for her in old age. That's pretty unbelievable.

Velvetween · 02/01/2023 09:53

SallyLockheart · 02/01/2023 09:45

The combination of not being valued and still being expected to be defacto carer would be enough for me.

time to step back

^^ this.

Id be stepping back. You say she’s a wonderful granny but what kind of woman sets this appalling example to her grandchildren?

I also believe she is pulling the wool
over your eyes with her line about “time spent with you being more important /worth more than the money”.

I suspect internalised misogyny at work here and she believes the men deserve the money more than a woman. No way would I be waiting on her hand and foot if my mother put my siblings over me like this.

very sorry for you, OP.

HoppingPavlova · 02/01/2023 09:52

it can’t change that this is a decision she has thought long and hard about over at least 2 years, and the conclusion is that I’m not worth anything

It doesn’t work like that. Our wills are not shared equally as we believe in equity rather than equality and have also instilled that in our kids since birth. That doesn’t mean we don’t love our kids equally though! Thankfully they understand this.

One of my kids is super financially savvy, does algorithm/risk/modelling stuff for a living etc. Latest version all our kids sat down and worked our will out together with one taking the lead working out approximate lifetime earnings etc, and the reality is some will out earn others by a shit tonne due to various factors and all of this was modelled and figures agreed on. The one who took the lead in this will basically get near nothing which suits them just fine, and we know they won’t be crying foul or that we don’t love them etc🤯.

For those saying anything could happen later in their lives, well yes it could, but that’s where risk mitigation comes in, and is what life/disability/financial insurances are for and my kids are sensible enough to know that if you have any financial commitments or a family etc then these are absolutely non-negotiable, plus ring fencing etc to protect assets in event of divorce or whatnot. We are also fairly confident that if something were to go amiss our kids would rejig as necessary with investments to correct.

SallyLockheart · 02/01/2023 09:45

The combination of not being valued and still being expected to be defacto carer would be enough for me.

time to step back

MissingYellowzigzags · 02/01/2023 09:42

@sofarequired i don’t particularly get on with one BD, there is no chance he would relinquish any money coming his way, and as I’ve said previously, it’s not about the money. I would actually feel uncomfortable taking it from them (none of us are in ‘need’ of it)…..if my mum doesn’t feel I’m deserving then so be it.

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Thearex · 02/01/2023 09:40

Something very similar happened in my family.

Grandparent left everything to one daughter & their grandchild, who was largely absent. My Mum sacrificed everything, giving increasing personal care for 20 years. We didn't go on family holidays, Mum didn't have days out with friend's or a job outside the home, every day was built round caring for our Grandparent.

It was not about the money, it was about the absolute unfairness & lack of value. It has damaged our memory & destroyed a family.

I would kindly advise you to protect your own mental health and step away as soon as you can. The longer you continue to provide care and support the harder it will be to deal the the grief and unfairness when the very sad, but enevitable happens. I'm really sorry to be so negative, but your care and sacrifice should mean something....at the least fairness.

happinessischocolate · 02/01/2023 09:38

I'm sorry you're going through this OP. Treating your children differently in this way is an awful thing for a parent to do. If it's ever uneven it should be because more money is going to the person who will do all the caring.

I cared for my mum for the last 5 years of her life, it's so hard, it can break you, and if there's a genuine resentment there aswell because of money then I don't think anyone could actually do it.

I'd tell your mum that you can't see her so much anymore or make any commitment to care for her as you'll be busy working or volunteering for people who appreciate you.

sofarequired · 02/01/2023 09:33

So sorry that OP (and other posters) have this sadness to deal with. We had this situation in our own family, where some cousins were left unequal amounts (less to childless one). They just waited until the death, and went to a solicitor to draw up a deed of variation, which divided everything equally. Minimal expense, and it saved their close relationship. The dead parent couldn't be made to see how hurtful the will was, and had refused to change it. I think they were sensible

Thisbastardcomputer · 02/01/2023 09:20

It's very very unfair to you and how she can't see that is beyond me.

RedHelenB · 02/01/2023 09:20

SheilaFromTheFuture · 02/01/2023 07:36

Don’t wipe her arse then. She can pay, then your siblings might have something to say.

This. She obviously has money so can pay for care and companionship.
In a novel it would be a test and you still being a loving daughter would result in you getting all the loot.

MissingYellowzigzags · 02/01/2023 09:15

@Srgcatherinecawood thank you for your post. It’s sounds truly awful. One of my siblings is a borderline alcoholic with a coke habit and associated health issues. DM is fully aware. I said I didn’t understand why she thought it was better to give money to DB to drink than to me. She assures me she has had ‘strong words’ with him and is confident he won’t waste the money 🤔.
the thing is, even if she did choose to change the will, and aside from the fact that it would look like I bullied her into it, it can’t change that this is a decision she has thought long and hard about over at least 2 years, and the conclusion is that I’m not worth anything.

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Gemmanorthdevon · 02/01/2023 09:04

Hadtochangeforthisone · 02/01/2023 07:59

Then you are obviously NOT a cater for an elderly relative you love and have a joke with !!!

I have just done a 72 hour stint looking after my mother with a dislocated hip.. waiting for an ambulance... it's called gallows humour !! As she lie on the bathroom floor where I dropped her trying to get her on the toilet... I said .. come , don't lie there doing nothing how am I going to wipe your arse while you're hanging around on the floor ...
Whilst ACTUALLY wiping her arse .. 'I hope I'm in your will' ... both times it made her laugh despite the horrific pain.

Perhaps you should think how hurtful you are being before you post .

This made me laugh, have just done a stint of personal care for my mum after serious illness. You should of heard the things we said to each other!!

Because its either gallows humour, or sliding onto the floor sobbing because your Mum is suffering so much, and you can't fix it. I think anybody that can't understand that has never been there.

Greenfairydust · 02/01/2023 09:02

Ignore the couple of nasty comments about you not being ''respectful''. Respect goes both ways.

Your mother is taking your affection and the fact that you should care for her for granted yet she is putting your male siblings first while the reasonable thing would be to allocate her wealth equally between all of you.

I would have one final serious and calm conversation with your mother stating that you are deeply hurt by her behaviour and you don't accept that she should favour your male siblings over you. And that as a result you will now be less involved in her life as she has shown you that you don't really matter to her.

Then distance yourself and get on with your life.

Make it clear you will no longer be on call when support and care is needed and that instead you expect your brothers to be involved from now on. Your siblings have done nothing to support you yet they also contribute nothing when your mother needs help...I think you need to stop giving them an easy ride.

Your mother sounds like she is comfortable with money so she hire paid carers if needed.

janeeyreair · 02/01/2023 09:00

@Srgcatherinecawood Lovely that you had a private wake for your father. Also that you have taken a mental step back rather than get repeatedly drawn in to their drama.

Roseshavethorns · 02/01/2023 09:00

We had a similar situation but with the grandchildren. It was my children who would have inherited more than double. I managed to persuade Mum not to do that as it would have damaged relationships between us all. She passed last year and I am very grateful that she took my advice.
Perhaps your brothers could talk to her and ask her not to do this and explain the damage it will do.

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