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Future mother-in-law won’t let son go

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Deb11e · 14/11/2022 17:55

I am currently trying to move forward with my partner of 5 years. We want to buy a house together but it means he will have to leave his mother who is in her late seventies. My fiancé has always lived with this mother, his dad died many years ago and they clung to each other at the time.
Moving forward is proving to be very difficult, future MIL will not make any decisions about her future, she has very few friends or family, but a partner she stays with once a week. She doesn’t do her own shopping, although is capable and only ever goes out with my fiancé. We will only be living about 30 miles away and will always help her out and visit but she just keeps crying all the time as she believes she is going to lose her son, she doesn’t want anything to change. This situation has gone on for a long time and we are no further moving forward.
Any advice would be helpful as to what we could do to make the situation easier. I have only met her twice, but I’ve tried so hard to make her feel included, but she won’t let me in!

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Ihadenough22 · 14/11/2022 20:54

I tell him that it time you and him chatted to his mother about him moving to your area and about the wedding your planning. If he makes an excuse I would ask him how long do you think I am going to hang around waiting for you to grow up?
Tell him then that he has a week to sort things out and he can go back to his mammy's house as he is not sleeping with you that night.

I know men who are quite happy to have a girlfriend and regular sex but are also happy living at home with mammy minding them.
Then with mammy no woman is ever good enough for her little boy who could be 30 plus years of age.

The reality is that your current situation with him is not working and your not willing to put your life on hold for much longer. I don't know your age or if you want a family but you can't put your life or fertility on hold until his mother dies.
I know it not easy to end an relationship/engagement but I know 2 woman who did this in the past. They are now married to other adult men and they have families.

Wherediditallgo · 14/11/2022 20:54

I think it’s likely his mum will always be the main woman in his life and you’ll take second place. If you’re happy with that , fair enough but if not I would walk away.

Herejustforthisone · 14/11/2022 20:33

Yep, here to join the throngs.

FUCKING RUN.

He’s 47. He’s never left home. Even if (and it’s a big fucking if) you he him to leave, he will be feeling so guilty he’s going to try to make up for that, and it will be at your expense.

Miss03852 · 14/11/2022 20:24

MermaidEyes · 14/11/2022 20:01

At 47, having always lived with his mother and therefore obviously never having had a proper serious relationship, I would be running a mile quite frankly.

Same 🚩

Ragwort · 14/11/2022 20:15

I expect he rather likes the set up of two women seeing to his every need.. he has all his home comforts (cooking? Laundry? Etc) with mum Mon - Fri and then your attention all weekend.

Of course he could move out ... all he needs to say is 'I am going to live with Deb now and I will be round once a week for dinner and any help you might need'.

StickyCricket · 14/11/2022 20:07

The only way he will become disentangled from this weird unhealthy dynamic with is mum is when she's dead.

If he wanted to move forward and buy a house with you, he would, he'd have done it by now. His mum is just an excuse. The hills are that way >>> I suggest you run for them.

Deb11e · 14/11/2022 20:02

PinkPanther50 · 14/11/2022 19:09

You’ve only met her twice in 5 years? No wonder she thinks she will lose her son! You haven’t made the effort to get to know her whilst he’s living there so there’s no indication that you will want to travel 30 miles to see her. IMO you should leave him to find someone who will accept his mum

I have asked to meet her numerous times. My fiancé only stays at my house as his mum hasn’t let anyone stay since covid. I’ve made embroidered cards for birthdays, sent homemade cakes and done as much as I can to encourage a good relationship.

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MermaidEyes · 14/11/2022 20:01

At 47, having always lived with his mother and therefore obviously never having had a proper serious relationship, I would be running a mile quite frankly.

Deb11e · 14/11/2022 19:56

I have asked to meet her numerous times. My fiancé only stays at my house as his mum hasn’t let anyone stay since covid. I’ve made embroidered cards for birthdays, sent homemade cakes and done as much as I can to encourage a good relationship.

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Deb11e · 14/11/2022 19:46

Thanks for all your comments so far, it’s given me a lot to think about. My fiancé is 47. He does admit both him and his mum made the mistake of becoming completely dependent on each other following his dads early death. His mum has nobody close she can talk to at all. She is unsure about her present relationship as it can be strained at times, he’s lived alone all his life and she can’t make a decision whether to live with her partner, I can understand it must be frightening in your late 70’s to make a change. I’ve suggested she could move close by so she had support but she doesn’t want to do that. We can’t move close to her due to the house prices and I live 30 miles away.
my fiancé has fought hard to get his work to allow him to work from home 3 days a week to make the move to live with me easier as it’s further away. He’s tried talking to her so many times, they’ve argued too, he’s told her she needs to let me in and he says he feels free when he has a break from his mum, he currently spends every weekend at my house and his mum doesn’t bother about that, she enjoys a pamper night alone.
I don’t really know why I’ve hardly met her. I was going through a divorce when I first met my fiancé and I think she thought it was wrong to start a relationship whilst I was still legally married. It took some time for her to accept the situation. Covid definitely had an affect on meeting but she was warm and welcoming when we did meet. I do wonder if she could be slightly depressed as she doesn’t go out much at all since covid happened. I’ve sent flowers and cakes in the past to try and cheer her up. I think she’s so frightened of what will happen and that we’ll be so busy with our lives she’ll be left alone. I just wish I could get her to see that’s not the case, I have 4 grown up children and older parents too and so want her to be part of the family. My fiancé is so worried about his mum being so upset, she doesn’t seem to realise how much he loves her! Thanks everyone, it’s good to hear other peoples opinions.

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PinkPanther50 · 14/11/2022 19:09

You’ve only met her twice in 5 years? No wonder she thinks she will lose her son! You haven’t made the effort to get to know her whilst he’s living there so there’s no indication that you will want to travel 30 miles to see her. IMO you should leave him to find someone who will accept his mum

Kite22 · 14/11/2022 19:02

How can you only have met her twice in 5 years, if he lives with her ? Confused

However, you are on a hiding to nothing with him, surely.
If you are wanting marriage and commitment, I think I would look elsewhere.

How old are you both ?

BreadInCaptivity · 14/11/2022 18:58

After 5 years I'd be seriously re-considering my investment in the relationship.

The simple fact is that he needs to get a grip on the situation that doesn't involve giving in to tears and tantrums.

Realistically what practical support does she need? If he can put that in place and still visit regularly (by which I mean no more than weekly) then you need to accept that he's tacitly making a decision not to live with you.

The assumption in these cases is always that the parent is the driving force here, but fundamentally in many of these cases, the truth is that the "child" is happy to maintain the status quo under the pretext of angst at their parents emotional response.

I love my parents dearly, but there's no chance I'd ever sacrifice a relationship for them out of misplaced guilt (thankfully they would never ask this). In an emergency situation I'd be there in a flash and move heaven and earth to get the support systems they needed in place.

You need a frank conversation with your partner.

Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia · 14/11/2022 18:35

Am I understanding this right - she's got a partner but she basically doesn't want him to have one? Or is she trying to get you to move in? Is the lack of contact between you & her due to covid, is she not a people person, what?

GinIronic · 14/11/2022 18:34

Run. Forest. Run.

ThirtyThreeTrees · 14/11/2022 18:34

This is a DP problem more than a MIL problem. His reaction is far more important. He needs to step up if he wants to remain DP.

I broke up with an Ex many years ago for the same. She always came first & is the most manipulative woman I ever met (only once & she didn't even acknowledge me). His dad died young and she treated him as a stand in husband.

She's in her 80s now & I know she is the reason at least 2 of his relationships have ended. I suspect there are more. He's unlikely to change.

elephantseal · 14/11/2022 18:32

You've only met her twice?? Why?? What do you do at Christmas, etc.?

I'd throw this one back. You're setting yourself up for a world of pain...

NoDoor · 14/11/2022 18:31

Twice in 5 years?
how old is he?
Unless
he has a plan to only visit her once a week and actually moves in with her I would say no thanks.

saraclara · 14/11/2022 18:29

How old is your partner?

LynetteScavo · 14/11/2022 18:26

There's a lot to unpick here- why have you only met your future MIL twice? Why has your fiancé always lived with his DM? Why are you going to live 30 miles from his DM? This is the time of life when, if it's convenient you move close to parents who might need support in the next few years.

The DM doesn't need to make any decisions she can carry on as she is a do her own shopping from now on. I person doesn't need that much. her son needs to do what he wants. I think he's using his mother as an excuse not to move on

Mehmeh22 · 14/11/2022 18:22

My DH was living with his mum when I met him but he left without a second thought.

Basically, your fiance would move out in a heartbeat for the right person.

And it isn't great she has only seen you twice in 5 years.

Don't waste your time. Or at the very least give him an ultimatum and stick to it

Cluelessdiyer · 14/11/2022 18:21

Run

Haffdonga · 14/11/2022 18:18

You said I want to move forward - interesting you don't say we - so what exactly does your dp want to happen next? And what is your dp doing (not just saying) to make that happen?

Quimburger · 14/11/2022 18:17

I'd be running a mile.

Quitelikeit · 14/11/2022 18:15

Why have you only met her twice in five years? Are you sure she’s not his wife!!!

what does he say about it?

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