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Elderly parents

How often do you see your elderly parents?

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Septemberintherain · 13/11/2022 10:55

Whether they are just elderly or have additional health/care needs, how often do you see them and do you do much to help them out?

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StopStartStop · 19/11/2022 15:14

determinedtomakethiswork · 18/11/2022 22:54

Could your dad afford to have a cleaner? Is the entitled to any benefits that would allow him to pay for that? Why isn't he washing up? It's not fair to expect you to do all that.

Yes, he can afford a cleaner but he doesn't like to pay for things. We did have cleaners for him, once a fortnight, but they could never say what time they'd be turning up, so they wasted my whole day in waiting for them.

He would wash up, and does when I'm not there. But then I have to find what he's washed and do it again, because he's not bothered about details like getting it clean.

The system we have now is working for us. I had a massive breakdown/autistic burnout in 2013 and have taken years to be anything like recovered. General domestic work is all I can do. And my elderly dad (who with my mother minded my daughter so I could go to university and work) needs a hand. It was hard to come to terms with at first but I'm happy with it now.

MereDintofPandiculation · 19/11/2022 10:14

I think the answer is that's how often DM visited her DPs when they lived a similar distance away Moral of that is, you’re not just visiting DPs, you’re role modelling how many visits you’ll have from your DC in your old age

determinedtomakethiswork · 18/11/2022 22:54

StopStartStop · 13/11/2022 12:51

Dad is 90. Relatively healthy, relatively sound in mind, doesn't leave the house. I think lockdown convinced him that younger people could do the running around while he lay on the sofa watching television.

I call in twice a day, deal with washing up, housework, usually heating his supper, take him cups of tea. I do all his shopping and his thinking - he can't make a shopping list. He makes his own breakfast (egg and toast) and lunch (more toast, with cheese or jam).

Sorry I didn't get to your thread sooner.

Could your dad afford to have a cleaner? Is the entitled to any benefits that would allow him to pay for that? Why isn't he washing up? It's not fair to expect you to do all that.

PritiPatelsMaker · 18/11/2022 22:50

I think I remember yours previous post and it's an awful situation for you, you want to be there for your DM but are being expected by your DF to run both homes.

If your DF is genuinely worried about her going into a Care Home the best way to avoid this is to accept help now. DFIL was pretty much like your DF and admits now that he's wish he'd let us put in more help earlier.

KnottyKnitting · 18/11/2022 22:46

My dad is 84 and lives alone very independently. He is a busy bee with lots of hobbies. Usually see him weekly for a cup of tea and a chat. He Also comes for Sunday lunch sometimes. My DSiS also sees him weekly/ fortnightly.

Mywatchis · 18/11/2022 22:43

Not very often but I don't get on with my parent at all. They scare me and shout at me, in their 80's , feel a bit guilty but if they were nice to me I'd visit more often. Live over an hour away.

Luredbyapomegranate · 18/11/2022 22:39

StopStartStop · 13/11/2022 12:51

Dad is 90. Relatively healthy, relatively sound in mind, doesn't leave the house. I think lockdown convinced him that younger people could do the running around while he lay on the sofa watching television.

I call in twice a day, deal with washing up, housework, usually heating his supper, take him cups of tea. I do all his shopping and his thinking - he can't make a shopping list. He makes his own breakfast (egg and toast) and lunch (more toast, with cheese or jam).

Sorry I didn't get to your thread sooner.

@StopStartStop That sounds like an awful lot. Do you want to do it?

Fourfurryfeet · 18/11/2022 22:28

Short answer - 3-4 x a week on average, for an hour or so. But I work and have young dc, so even though dm is close by I struggle with this.

Dm is 84 and widowed, with dementia. I live 10 mins away, my brother lives 3.5 hours away.

Maybe elements of geography, 'woman's work' and that I work part time, but I feel increasingly worn out by the care needed. Mum pays for carers to visit x3 per day, and day centre x2 per week, which costs £2.5k per month. But on top of that there still seems so much I struggle to do it all. all doctors/ hospital/ dentist/ Podiatrist visits (of which there are many), sorting out house maintenance, financial admin etc. I wish I could visit just for a chat, but mum struggles to have a meaningful conversation and I get sucked into endless jobs.

DB visits a few weekends a year, and does her online food shopping and some financial stuff. Can't see him doing more while I live so close

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 14/11/2022 15:21

My mum lived in the granny annex until 18 months ago when she went into hospital and then a home. So until then I saw her up to a dozen times a day usually for a minimum of 15 minutes, doing all her cleaning, washing, meals, drinks, shopping - if it needed doing I did it.

Now she is in a home and I visit once a week. It is only 7 miles away but to go by bus takes two and a half hours so I get a lift with my cousin.

My mother in law lives an hour away. Unfortunately we don't have a car and she no longer drives so we only see her when one of my SiL's can bring her. She lives with her daughter so has no need of DH to do anything for her which, given our lack of transport, is a relief.

Septemberintherain · 13/11/2022 20:48

My mum does get AA MereDintofPandiculation dad uses it for her hair to be done once a week but other than that it’s mainly just building up, along with her pension.
cptartapp I think dads fear is that mum will need to go into care one day, which she most probably will have to when her Alzheimer’s gets to a level where we can not care for her. I think he worries there won’t be enough to pay for her care if he starts dipping in. But he is also extremely tight-fisted with the money nonetheless.

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cptartapp · 13/11/2022 20:07

They're sitting on hundreds of thousands of pounds and have you running round after them?! Really? They're happy for you to do that?!
That's what we save for all our lives isn't it? To buy in help and care as needed when older and let our busy adult DC enjoy the prime of their lives?
I would think far less of your dad tbh. Your DH is right. This will build resentment and only get worse, especially when one is left alone.
Worrying.

MereDintofPandiculation · 13/11/2022 20:00

Does your mother get attendance allowance? If not, then it would be worth applying for, and using to pay for help specifically for your mother. Your father could not justifiably object

EmotionalBlackmail · 13/11/2022 14:45

Every family and situation is different. So you can't really compare.

I see my Mum (late-70s, few health scares in last couple of years) about 3-4 times per year. It's been more than that this year which wasn't what I wanted. I speak to her once a week. I get moaned at a lot for this but we are 2-3 hours away, I have a demanding full-time job and a child. My DH and child come first and I'm not prepared to give up weekends with them to run around after mum. I had a childhood like that, and I'm not doing the same thing to my DD.

My brother rings her much less often and sees her about the same amount (lives further away from her) but can't put a foot wrong!

It's her choice. She moved to her current home a while ago and chose to live near her friends. She could have moved closer to my brother. She wouldn't have been able to afford to live nearer to me. There is definitely underlying assumptions about daughter vs, son roles!

MintJulia · 13/11/2022 13:26

I saw my DM about once a month. I have siblings who also visited her. My parents had retired to somewhere 75 miles away so they weren't just around the corner.

And to be fair, one year when we were trying to organise Christmas, I asked DM what she would like to do and she said 'I wish you'd all go away and leave me in peace so I can watch my soaps." 😧

Every family is different, with different personalities and different circumstances so it's no-one's business but yours really. It sounds like they have the finances to arrange any help they need and it isn't fair to expect you to wear yourself to a crisp. Look after you first.

Septemberintherain · 13/11/2022 13:20

Thank you again.
Its such a dilemma at times and I often feel a little conflicted on my thoughts about this.
I hate drip feed threads so will add a more for co text but I am a bit nervous too as I had once posted something similar on AIBU and got absolutely roasted, people telling me these are my parents and they raised me and gave me their time and now it’s my time to give back.
I don’t begrudge seeing my parents at all (especially my mum as she was such a lovely mother to my sister and I), but there are some niggles which do bug me a little.
My dad has always been a little bit of a PIA, way before mum developed dementia.
He does seem quite happy for my sister and I to go in and help as much as possible, I think, because we are women. My sister works full time and goes in once a week to clean for them (she has her own cleaning business) and then visits again on a Sunday. As the eldest and a part time worker (I am a PA to a disabled person), I think my dad just naturally expects me to be on hand at all times.
And I am happy to help care for mum, to change and wash their bed sheets, to take on all mums paperwork and hospital/doctors appointments and liaise with the doctors and specialists (she has other health issues), to wash her hair (Although I’ve now arranged for a hairdresser to come once a week), to cut her nails, arrange her medications etc.
I do it all because I love her and she needs me because me dad would not do these things. He cooks for them both and is with her 24/7 so it’s hard for him.

But dad sits on hundreds of thousands of pounds (mostly all mums personal inheritance) and often refuses any outside help, mainly due to the cost of it (he resents spending money).
I arranged for a carer to come in, to start with an hour a week, with the hope of increasing her hours as mums needs started, to help take the pressure off my sister and I but at £22 per hour dad thinks this is a lot of money and just keeps to the one hour per week which is obviously not enough, she just does some colouring in with mum which is not what I was hoping for.
I love them dearly but it’s all quite frustrating and harder when my dh is constantly telling me I do too much, I feel stretched between my parents and my husband.
I do also wonder if it’s mainly women who end up helping elderly parents.
I don’ t have male siblings but I wonder how many help their parents on a very regular basis? My dh has a brother and her sees his dad less than DH.

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rookiemere · 13/11/2022 12:52

This thread has prompted me to wonder why I don't feel guilty about visiting more often than once a month.

I think the answer is that's how often DM visited her DPs when they lived a similar distance away. Then my DPs moved over to Scotland to be closer to me, so she saw them even less often. DFs DPs lived in another continent and passed away at a fairly young age.

But what I'd say OP is if it's impacting your health, you're doing too much. I'd start being a bit blunt with your DF - they need to accept extra home help, or your long term ability to support them will suffer.

StopStartStop · 13/11/2022 12:51

Dad is 90. Relatively healthy, relatively sound in mind, doesn't leave the house. I think lockdown convinced him that younger people could do the running around while he lay on the sofa watching television.

I call in twice a day, deal with washing up, housework, usually heating his supper, take him cups of tea. I do all his shopping and his thinking - he can't make a shopping list. He makes his own breakfast (egg and toast) and lunch (more toast, with cheese or jam).

Sorry I didn't get to your thread sooner.

Septemberintherain · 13/11/2022 12:46

Thank you everyone.

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UseOfWeapons · 13/11/2022 12:37

I see my parents most days if I’m not working, otherwise, 3 times a week. They are frail, elderly, and have significant health issues, some of which they need support with. I love them, it’s not a hardship, as I know I won’t have them about forever. I don’t want them at the age when they need me most, having to ask for things. I am closeby, so there’s no problem. But the only person or people who should be able to tell me if I’m going too often would be them, or me. You do whatever you want and need to, everyone’s situation is different.💐

DarkKarmaIlama · 13/11/2022 12:21

I see my mum all the time. Around 1-2 times a week. I made a conscious decision to never be far away from her at any point in my life.

mondaytosunday · 13/11/2022 12:20

See them as much as you want. Both my parents are dead, and my one regret is not talking to them more (we lived in different countries) or, really, listening to them more!

Septemberintherain · 13/11/2022 12:10

UpendedPineapple I was going in every day up until about 6 months ago but as I have kids and a job (and some health issues) it was having a very negative impact on my physical and mental health, so I’ve scaled back to 4/5 times a week.
But it’s still quite hard going even though I arranged for mum to have a carer in for one hour, once a week.
I was hoping we could increase her hours but dad won’t have that so it’s still quite hard going. If I miss a day or two (often due to my health issues) dad will be ringing me all the time leaving messages!

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KangarooKenny · 13/11/2022 12:04

Twice a week.

UpendedPineapple · 13/11/2022 12:02

Septemberintherain · 13/11/2022 11:55

I live in the same village as my parents. They are both 80, dad is in good health but my mum has Alzheimer’s.
I pop in and see them at least 4/5 times a week and help them out.
DH’s dad lives 2 miles away (DH lost his mum 2 years ago), FIL is in good health. DH sees him once a week and tells me that I see me parents way too much.
Its difficult because they need me and just being around the corner makes me feel guilty if I don’t see them.

Does it work for you or do you feel it's too much?

I see DM most days and she's in great health at 76 but I enjoy her company. DBs see her once a month ish.

strawberriesarenot · 13/11/2022 12:00

80 miles away every 2 months which I know is not often enough. I don't know how to work full time and run a house and family and get there any more often. This is my first weekend off since August and I should be there but I'm not. They do have cleaner, gardener, family nearer and retired with no family. Feel useless.