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If you care for your parent, what do you on a daily basis?

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FaultybutFabulous · 10/09/2022 23:22

I am the sole carer for my lovely mum but it's tiring and not helped by the fact I don't drive. Walking there and back takes an hour if I go from home. If I go after taking ds to school it's 50 minutes walk there and all uphill! I was wondering what other daughters/sons do in their caring roles? I cook, clean shop, sort prescriptions, appointments, all the admin side of things, banking, gardening, and lots of emotional support. Mum has a physical disability and a few other medical conditions that I help her to manage but she is cognitively fine and mainly frustrated she needs help with anything yet at the same time leans on me a lot.

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Minimalme · 11/09/2022 20:30

For example, I have three ds who each have their own needs.

I will not be asking anything of them as I age as they have their own lives. I would far rather go into a home and not be a bloody burden to them.

Minimalme · 11/09/2022 20:28

I think you are doing way too much. Surely you could buy ping meals for your Mum and she could heat them in the microwave?

She could use the attendance allowance to pay for a cleaner and gardener.

If she is still mental active, she should be arranging her own appointments.

It sounds as though she is happy to lean on you with absolutely no thought to your quality of life.

Plenty of people grow old without a daughter to come every day and spend hours doing stuff.

FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 19:16

My question was asking what other people do for their parents.
I will see what social services can offer but going off past experience it will be next to nothing or nothing that's suitable. I don't know if private care is any better? Maybe our past experiences weren't typical. I also need to think about what mum will accept in terms of help. The gardener is crap so she needs to find a new one.

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A580Hojas · 11/09/2022 19:07

Well good luck with getting advice from Mumsnet op. You've put up a barrier to every single suggestion. Perhaps you just wanted a good old moan.

FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 18:53

I must add that I am very close to my mum and we enjoy spending time with each other. Even before she became disabled we saw each other several times a week and spoke daily. She's always been very involved with my dc and we holidayed together, shopped together etc. I know mumsnet finds that odd but we both enjoyed spending time together especially since we are both on our own as far as adult company goes. We have our own friends of course but I'm not a people person and prefer my own company most of the time.

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FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 18:37

Our experience of carers has been poor on the three previous occasions when she has had care needs but for a limited time due to illness or injury. The morning visits were too early and she wasn't awake yet. The teatime ones were too brief, no meals done or anything and they wanted her in ged at 6pm. She can get herself up and to bed now so doesn't need that from anyone. Visits were for half an hour and not worth having so I did it instead. She has care call for if she needs anyone at night but tends to call them if she is feeling unwell and they send an ambulance out who confirm she's fine and it's just anxiety.

I think you are right that she is too dependent on me on a daily basis. I feel like a mother instead of a daughter at times and she hates that as much as I do.

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Suzi888 · 11/09/2022 17:43

DM is 80, house bound (would never leave the house alone as she can barely walk and cannot walk unaided). She’s full of arthritis, in generally poor health.
I’ve just been there five hours gardening- doing little things her gardener doesn’t do to her specifications. Little jobs she can’t reach or would find very difficult. She does try to pay me, she is very comfortable but I don’t take it as I work and earn well.

DM is in constant pain, but she will do all she can to keep active. She gets up and into the bathroom, takes her two hours to bathe and get ready. (She would never let me help her with personal care if she can help it).
She does her own washing, will run the vacuum over, wash up, these tasks will take her literally hours to complete. She will rest throughout the day. She won’t just sit around, even though movement is painful.

Could your DM do a little more than she does OP?

Would she have to move in to residential care if you could no longer care for her?

FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 17:42

I don't mind doing things but I need a break sometimes and not to be doing it all. Now the dc are back at school I go during the day so I'm not having to do dinner at mum's.

I find employed work difficult because I'm autistic as is my eldest that's at home.

Mum can attend to all her personal hygiene needs except her nails, can cook and prepare food, and put the washing on and hang it out but she really shouldn't. Because of her disability if she were to fall it would be catastrophic so she can't hoover or clean or shop and she shouldn't do the washing. She can't go out on her own. However on bad days she is reduced to hygiene needs and getting dressed and that's it. It can be very variable. She's sharp as a tack but won't do internet shopping or online banking beyond checking her balance although she sometimes pays for things over the phone. If she has a delivery she can't take it into the house. She walks with a trolley with shelves inside.

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TonTonMacoute · 11/09/2022 17:35

FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 16:42

Yes it matters because if I don't do things then nobody will.

This is the message you need to keep hammering home to everyone who will listen.

Everyone is happy for you to shoulder the burden but what if something happens to you? You might get Covid, or break your leg and you simply won't be able to help, and there needs to be some sort of back up system in place to take over.

In any case, you need respite from having to do this every day, it's just not sustainable. Can you get someone to come in twice a week?

Is there a carers group near you? It might be worth joining for support and advice. Adult social care should be able to help although they are very overstretched everywhere. I've also heard that the Red Cross is quite helpful, look on their website.

HelpingHandle · 11/09/2022 17:21

I agree with getting a Care Assessment under the Act. I have had to have this for myself, and we can all help you prepare for it and do it.

I will not have my adult DC give up their lives for my care. We:

1 Buy it in as far as possible;
2 Make sure I have the tech to do as much for myself as possible (phone, laptop);
3 Ask as little of them as possible - them sorting out some meals and housework for me is brilliant when I'm not doing so well;
4 Draw on the available resources (via the NHS and Local Authority) as much as possible, e.g. the GP practice's social prescribers, adult social care services community physio;
5 Claim PIP / Attendance Allowance and all related benefits

However I appreciate that your mum is older than me. But nevertheless you cannot give up your life like this when you have a young child. When I was younger and active I gave up a lot for my father but declined to do it full-time as I had young DC. We settled on one full day a week from me.

DenholmElliot1 · 11/09/2022 16:57

FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 16:42

Yes it matters because if I don't do things then nobody will.

Ring adult social services and ask for an assessment for carers to go in and do it.

SorchaB · 11/09/2022 16:56

Everything that Mossstitch said! 👍

‘you’re supposed to be my carer’ ??? Is that the sum of your life on this earth ? Will you say this to your children? Is that what you brought them into the world for?

You have only one life and that life is important, your life has value and keep repeating that .

Find a balance that helps your mum but where you are ‘you’ and not devoting your life to someone else , family or not . No amount of money is worth unhappiness. Get a part time job. Can your mum not get some care from the NHS?

SpinCityBlues · 11/09/2022 16:45

Can she use the internet at all or is that a non-starter? Ring up for her prescriptions? Accept a delivery at the door?

What can she do? What does she do?

FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 16:42

Yes it matters because if I don't do things then nobody will.

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CassandraBarrett · 11/09/2022 12:17

Does it matter what others do? You're doing too much. It's demanding all of your time. You don't want to continue. Even if the whole world was doing five times more so what?
You can decide what you're happy to do, and proceed with that

Mossstitch · 11/09/2022 12:14

@FaultybutFabulous my mother had attendance allowance for years without ever using it for 'care'. She stashed it away in savings whilst I tried to fit in taking her shopping ect with three kids and fulltime work. She actually drove me back to work after I took early retirement with her excessive demands for attention! That remark 'your supposed to be my carer' would have finished it for me, who else puts in that level of work for less than £2 per hour.......... It's a disgrace how carers are treated and usually women.

Mossstitch · 11/09/2022 12:05

You don't have to be there for her to get attendance allowance, the small print says that is paid for their need whether they actually use it to pay for care or not (I work with a lot of elderly patients who get it but refuse to use it for the purpose intended, ie carers to relieve their poor children of some of the burden of looking after them, some elderly people get rather selfish/self centered and expect too much, usually from daughters🙄).
I don't know anything about UC but I did get carers allowance at one point which if I remember rightly was the grand total of £235 per month, I certainly did not tot up the hours I was there with her and nobody is going to check up on you!! Everybody is entitled to some time off in a week, I think you are doing too much. If she can physically manage with ready meals ect then you need to take some days off........ Personally if you can I would go to work and get her assessed from social services fir carers, you are entitled to a life of your own!! 💐

FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 12:03

She won't help. If I ever ask then I get told she can't.

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A580Hojas · 11/09/2022 12:00

Oh well ask the nearby sibling to give you a break occasionally then.

Is it worth whatever UC top-up you get to spend 35 hours a week caring? That's a full time job.

Maybe there's an age element to attendance allowance but my Mum's doesn't seem to be means tested at all.

FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 11:55

And I'm named on her attendance api action as her carer.

I have 3 siblings. 2 of them live hours away. One of them is a few miles but can't be bothered too busy to help so it all falls to me. I'm happy to do it but I need a break sometimes.

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FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 11:53

I'm there so much because to get the carers element of UC and for her to get attendance allowance she has to need 35 hours of care a week. That's 5 hours a day so I'm there 3 hours or there abouts, 1 hour travelling to and fro and another hour for shopping and phone support etc.

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A580Hojas · 11/09/2022 11:49

What does she mean "you're supposed to be my carer"?

Is the other sibling totally estranged from you both?

My mum is 91 and pretty much housebound (she can't go out alone) and has paid carers for an hour twice a week to give her a shower. She refuses to have more than this and can and does shower herself but can't do her hair on her own. Her food shopping is online (my brother helps her with this) and she gets frozen ready meals delivered by one of those food delivery companies. There isn't much life admin to handle but she does it, with occasional help from me or my brother. If her toaster broke, for instance, we'd get her a new delivered by Amazon.

She spends her attendance allowance on a fortnightly cleaner and some gardening in the summer.

She speaks to me, my brother, my cousin on the phone about weekly, occasionally more often (I rang her this week when the Queen died as I knew she'd be upset) and has a neighbour and local friend who look in on her.

Your mother sounds WAY TOO DEPENDENT on you. Why on earth are you there for 3 hours every day? If she has extreme physical needs she should be having nursing care at home surely. If you lived hours away she'd have no choice.

FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 11:28

Do you get any time off as it were? How do you balance your life? Most days for me are: get up, get dc ready for school, walk to school, walk home calling at the shops on the way, walk to mum's, spend 3 hours there, walk home, quick lunch, walk to school, walk back, cook dinner, tidy up, sort laundry for next day, homework, showers, bed for youngest, collapse into bed myself.

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FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 11:19

Ready meals for bad days when I can't go and cook her dinner. Sometimes I prepare her lunch the night before.

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FaultybutFabulous · 11/09/2022 11:00

Gardener, physiotherapy, transport because she can't drive now, anything fir around the house that makes life easier for her.

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