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How do you cope with your parents ageing?

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MrsToadflax · 26/08/2021 15:16

My DM's health has really declined over the last few years - thing after thing. I'm not normally an anxious person, but I'm struggling with it. It's even got to the point that I hate visiting because I just sit there looking for signs of illness and thinking how old she looks (mid 70's).

She doesn't say anything outright, but I know she feels I should do more for/with her, especially as she cared for her own DM. Unfortunately this doesn't come naturally to me and I can't ever envision her living with us. I know I should see her more and get her more involved with my DC, but she's very limited with what she can do. I feel guilty for not making more effort and being a good daughter.

My DH is very supportive, but I'm an only child so carry all her troubles on my shoulders. It doesn't help that my friends parents are very outgoing and off cycling around the country etc.

Has anyone got some words of wisdom or perspective on how to deal with this stage of life? There's nothing to suggest she's going anywhere soon (touch wood), but it just all seems so downhill from here.

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babbi · 07/09/2021 08:16

@Frazzledmummy123

You have asked the million dollar question, and I have no answer as would love to know this myself. I am an only child and my mum is 80 and dad is 84, both showing signs of decline and my dad can now hardly walk Sad . I have watched him decline over the past year and it is truly horrible to see! They live in a house which is totally unsuitable for them due to stubborness and I dread the day the inevitable crisis happens which make them realise just how unable they really are. Like yourself, I find it all very overwhelming.

It is very stressful and I am really struggling too. As another earlier poster said, they feel jealous of friends with younger parents who don't have all this to deal with.

I find trying not to overthink scenarios in the future as much as I can helps, as we inevitably will starting thinking about many what ifs. It only creates unnecessary anxiety and a lot of these scenarios never happen. Take each day as it comes and see your mum as much as you can is all I can suggest Flowers

Excellent post @Frazzledmummy123 OP I feel your pain . This stage of life is incredibly difficult, I’m a single parent with a very demanding job . I try so hard to get things organised to make things easier for my parents/us all . They absolutely refuse to do anything until it’s an absolute crisis or disaster. Then I am desperately trying to fix the car crash situation when I’m totally up against it. ( one memorable occasion trying to sort stuff from Singapore- trying to work on a business trip and deal with U.K. authorities in a different time zone - whilst biting my tongue and not roaring at my parents about how I’d been telling them to sort this for the last 20 years )

It’s incredibly stressful to support parents who refuse to engage sensibly.

I feel for you all …

I’m not an only … I have 2 siblings but it forever falls to me …

Chin up all

MrsToadflax · 06/09/2021 18:35

Thank you for all the replies, much appreciated. To those struggling too, I hear you. We just have to keep marching on. I have upped phone calls and made arrangements to see DM more often. Those saying to enjoy the now are absolutely right. Wish we'd done more 5 years ago when she was much more agile. So I'm definitely on it!

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MereDintofPandiculation · 03/09/2021 09:41

Live in the present. Don’t rush to meet problems that haven’t happened yet. Don’t look back and compare.

Earlydancing · 02/09/2021 18:41

I read a saying somewhere that was very elegantly put but I can't remember it exactly. It was something like don't let the worries of tomorrow make you miss/destroy the pleasures of today.

My mum's dementia decline is progressive. I spent so much time worrying about the future and mourning the fact she was going to die, that I wasted precious months just not enjoying the time I had with her then. By the time I realised that, she'd worsened again. You don't know what will happen in the future, you have no idea of what she will or won't want to do - my mum constantly surprises me! Get power of attorney, make enquiries about available care and costs so you're ready and then just enjoy being with her.
(I make it sound all so enjoyable. They're our mothers. It's not easy all the time! Lol.)

Frazzledmummy123 · 02/09/2021 16:37

You have asked the million dollar question, and I have no answer as would love to know this myself. I am an only child and my mum is 80 and dad is 84, both showing signs of decline and my dad can now hardly walk Sad . I have watched him decline over the past year and it is truly horrible to see! They live in a house which is totally unsuitable for them due to stubborness and I dread the day the inevitable crisis happens which make them realise just how unable they really are. Like yourself, I find it all very overwhelming.

It is very stressful and I am really struggling too. As another earlier poster said, they feel jealous of friends with younger parents who don't have all this to deal with.

I find trying not to overthink scenarios in the future as much as I can helps, as we inevitably will starting thinking about many what ifs. It only creates unnecessary anxiety and a lot of these scenarios never happen. Take each day as it comes and see your mum as much as you can is all I can suggest Flowers

Greenrubber · 27/08/2021 17:48

You need to have the conversation with her about what she wants and what she can expect from you
Whilst she's aware of what could happen

My gran was in assisted living until she was 90 then went into a home as she started to get dimentia! My sister talked about moving her in with her but the best place for my gran was a care home
Once my gran was in the home she seemed very happy and my sister was finally able to relax and visits were so much happier that having the caring responsibility on top of a visit

Some parents expect too much of their children and some children assume the care will fall on them but it's not always the case it's the initial talk that's the most difficult

MrsToadflax · 27/08/2021 17:16

@MereDintofPandiculation

I have very fond memories if my grandad, but he definitely wasn’t hands on, just a presence in the background, coming over every Sunday and just watching as we went about our business. So don’t mourn a relationship your DC won’t have, celebrate the one they do have.

Don’t worry about care homes - it’s a minority who go into one. Deal with problems as they arise, don’t rush to meet them.

Think hard about moving her closer. Her friends are there not just for taking to appointments, but also as a social circle. Unless she’s good at making new friends, you won’t be able to replicate that. Also, she has another 10 - 20 years ahead of her - can you guarantee you won’t move in that time?

Being an only is an advantage - you only have to read this topic for stories of when siblings don’t see eye to eye about elder care. Sharing the burden in practice means you are limited in what you can do ease it.

That is my worry with moving her. I think sometimes she gets fed-up and will have a push looking for somewhere near me, but I honestly think the reality of leaving everything would be too much.
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MysterOfwomanY · 27/08/2021 10:24

When my Mum started to show signs of heart failure in her 70s I made a conscious decision to set aside more time to go visit and to ring her every week (she had a very busy life so we weren't in each other's pockets). In the last year or so I'd arranged with work to take about a day a month unpaid leave so we could go do stuff. I could see she didn't have a lot of time left and wanted to enjoy what we had, as though Future Me, who had lost her Mum, was transported magically back a few years.

Seconding the difference that mobility scooters and a blue badge make. And people were so kind and helpful when we rang up and enquired about disabled parking or seats for those with mobility issues. She was able to go to concerts, flower shows, museums etc because of this.

I too worried about the sort of crises you read on here and she worried hugely about losing her marbles, but in the end things panned out differently.

One last thing - take lots of selfies with her and videos. I can't bear to look at the videos right now but I am so glad I have them.

MereDintofPandiculation · 27/08/2021 09:05

I have very fond memories if my grandad, but he definitely wasn’t hands on, just a presence in the background, coming over every Sunday and just watching as we went about our business. So don’t mourn a relationship your DC won’t have, celebrate the one they do have.

Don’t worry about care homes - it’s a minority who go into one. Deal with problems as they arise, don’t rush to meet them.

Think hard about moving her closer. Her friends are there not just for taking to appointments, but also as a social circle. Unless she’s good at making new friends, you won’t be able to replicate that. Also, she has another 10 - 20 years ahead of her - can you guarantee you won’t move in that time?

Being an only is an advantage - you only have to read this topic for stories of when siblings don’t see eye to eye about elder care. Sharing the burden in practice means you are limited in what you can do ease it.

Icequeen01 · 26/08/2021 20:30

[quote MrsToadflax]@Icequeen01 it's so difficult isn't it. Could I ask which mobility scooter you went for? Mum has mentioned getting one and I'm thinking of getting it for her.[/quote]
We went for the Alumina Pro which breaks down into three bits and is easy to put in the car. I am not sure yet whether my DM will feel confident enough to go out on it on her own but it means we can take her out with us for a day. Also, she hasn't been able to do her own supermarket shopping for some time now due to her knee and this week, for the first time, I took her to Sainsbury's with me and she felt confident enough to use one of their mobility scooters which has a large basket in the front. She was sooo pleased but utterly exhausted when we got home.

I also applied for a Blue Badge which I received this week which also makes things a lot easier. My DSis and I are taking her away for a few days next week to the Cotswolds so her scooter will really make a difference to the holiday.

MrsToadflax · 26/08/2021 20:10

@RoseStar

My best advice, having been through it with DM and DF, is don't wish this time away by looking for problems.

You’ll wish this time next year that you still had what you have now.

That’s it really. That an buckle up for a long ride, it will ebb and flow. When things are ok and she doesn’t need to much, take some time for yourself. When she needs you, you’ll have to let other things go but it’s not forever.

None of it is forever, it changes all the time even if it doesn’t feel like it.

And one day you’ll look back and wish you’d hugged her more Sad

Thank you for this perspective. She has got a couple of serious health issues, but is ok for the time-being. You're right to make the most of now. I really don't want to feel massive regret at how I've dealt with this, so will definitely be putting my big girl pants on and stepping up. Already planning a weekend away with her.
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Harpydragon · 26/08/2021 20:09

My dad is 81 my mum 76. They downsized to a bungalow 3 or 4 years ago now, but chose to stay in a town that neither of them really like and is 2 hours away from me and 4 hours from my sister. This is despite them saying that they would move closer to one of us. My sister sees them 3 or 4 times a year for 2 or 3 days at a time. Before covid I saw them at least once a month, always us to them.
They are gradually becoming more and more incapable. The only internet shopping that they can do is groceries and if it goes wrong they can't cope. To be honest they are a complete nightmare. They are my parents and I care for them but don't like them very much as people.
We are taking a break from work for the first time in nearly 12 months, my husband has ME/CFS and to be perfectly honest we are knackered and just need a break. My mum is having a complete hissy fit because we are not using the time to visit them, we are going up next weekend, but thats not good enough!
I am not giving up my life for my parents. They chose to live where they do, I have a son, work full time at work and pick up a lot of our house work because of my husband s CFS. I am not travelling every week to see them, time has shown that they don't really want to see ME. They just want me to fix things for them. They are difficult to get along with and don't appreciate anything that is done for them. My mum is very controlling and it took a lot to step away from that and I am not voluntarily stepping back into the role of whipping boy.

MrsToadflax · 26/08/2021 20:06

@leavesthataregreen

Would it help to create a routine? E.g. mum comes for Sunday lunch every second weekend of the month. Sometimes we stay in and sometimes we have a day out and eat in a pub. That way you don't have to constantly think about how often you see her and how she interacts with DC. You could also discover what they have in common. She might not be very spontaneous with them but they might start a jigsaw together or a simple craft or art project. Or cook together if she still does that.

You could also do things with her that require minimal interaction from you. Take her to a musical or a candlelit concert occasionally - memorable activities but fairly passive on your part.

Yes, that's a good idea. I do take her on outings, but the distance she can walk has massively reduced, so it limits what we can do. Theatre would be ideal.
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MrsToadflax · 26/08/2021 20:03

@Icequeen01 it's so difficult isn't it. Could I ask which mobility scooter you went for? Mum has mentioned getting one and I'm thinking of getting it for her.

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MrsToadflax · 26/08/2021 19:59

@PermanentTemporary

As someone with an 86 yr old mother whose memory is rubbish I'm going to very seriously say DO NOT try to live in the future or solve problems that don't exist yet.

Right now your mum is ? Doing OK? - you don't say what the actual signs of ageing you see are. I know the first thing I noticed was that it was actually quite relaxing visiting my mum, used to be terribly exhausting as she was so energetic...

Sounds like she's living independently in her own home but would like more visits. What about same number of visits but double the phone calls? Literally put them all in your diary/calendar and just do it. What you must do is avoid wasting all your time feeling guilty you're not seeing her. Decide what you can cope with and then do that. So what if she cared directly for her DM. Did you perhaps have more children? You have a different life.

I would say the mental switch into me being in more the parent role took 5-10 years. Still not easy but I remember when I decided to stop telling her things about my life that would just worry or stress her, and to get my emotional support elsewhere. It's not an absolute boundary but I try to make our talks a happy time.

One day she won't be here, yes, and no amount of worry from you will bring that day closer or send it further away. She might have a couple of decades yet - don't spend it anticipating death.

That is a good point about a different life. We lead very different lives and I have more children. I do try and do thoughtful things like sending flowers and cake and little things she will like, but after reading these replies I'm definitely going to make more effort to see her.
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YukoandHiro · 26/08/2021 19:29

I am an only child. My parents are currently mid/late 60s and moderately fit and healthy but I do think about the future a lot. My DH's parents have both died already (his dad decades ago, well before we met) so it does feel like my parents getting ill/infirm is the next big thing that will happen to us.

As PPs have said I think knowing and setting your boundaries is important. We will never have either of my parents living with us. I just couldn't handle that emotionally - we need our private space as a family. That's ok if it's the same for you too.

Blossomtoes · 26/08/2021 19:19

Top advice @RoseStar. 💐

RoseStar · 26/08/2021 19:14

It’s a bit like having kids. You can’t imagine how it’s going to feel until you get to that stage, just when you think things can’t change they will. Talk and listen to people who have been carers, in the same way you probably did with other mum friends. They’re the best source of support.

RoseStar · 26/08/2021 19:12

My best advice, having been through it with DM and DF, is don't wish this time away by looking for problems.

You’ll wish this time next year that you still had what you have now.

That’s it really. That an buckle up for a long ride, it will ebb and flow. When things are ok and she doesn’t need to much, take some time for yourself. When she needs you, you’ll have to let other things go but it’s not forever.

None of it is forever, it changes all the time even if it doesn’t feel like it.

And one day you’ll look back and wish you’d hugged her more Sad

leavesthataregreen · 26/08/2021 19:10

Would it help to create a routine? E.g. mum comes for Sunday lunch every second weekend of the month. Sometimes we stay in and sometimes we have a day out and eat in a pub. That way you don't have to constantly think about how often you see her and how she interacts with DC. You could also discover what they have in common. She might not be very spontaneous with them but they might start a jigsaw together or a simple craft or art project. Or cook together if she still does that.

You could also do things with her that require minimal interaction from you. Take her to a musical or a candlelit concert occasionally - memorable activities but fairly passive on your part.

Elieza · 26/08/2021 19:08

I’m on the phone to my mother every day, unless I have a medical appointment or something that I know on advance will make me tired. In which case I let her know.

It tiring. I have to clock watch to make sure I phone or she will worry. I make my life round it. But she’s my mother and she’s lonely. So I do it.

I’m just glad she still with it. It does get boring being told the same thing on a daily basis though.

When I thought about stopping and making it every second day my pal said I have to justify that to myself if she becomes ill and I’m not there to notice. So I keep going. But I’m down to 20 mins some nights as I am tired and just can’t do an hour the way I used to during the first lockdown.

I’m glad I don’t have to go round daily though as that’s really tiring.

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MrsToadflax · 26/08/2021 19:03

@Winterfairy23

I was speaking to someone recently who was saying thing about how often you visit your parents and the general life expectancy. Say someone sees their father once every 3 months and the father is 77. Assuming they have 2 years left that’s only 8 more visits.

It’s hard watching parents age and deteriorate but the point is to make the visits and times together memorable and enjoyable.

I know it’s hard and you’re worrying about your mum. Ageing is a natural part of life and as far as you’re aware she’s healthy. Please make use of this time to enjoy life with her and try not to spend it worrying.

That is an excellent perspective - thank you. I see her about once every month plus for all key holidays. I host Christmas every year and all grandparents come. I also make sure grandparents come to meet Father Christmas so they share some magic with our DC. We always have a Mother's Day outing with all grandparents, plus Easter etc. I phone about 3 times a week, more if she's going through a bad health phase. When my eldest are back at school I'm going to make more effort to take my youngest for more regular visits.
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MrsToadflax · 26/08/2021 18:58

@Crimeismymiddlename

You just get used to it. I am lucky, my DM is able bodied and can care for my DF, however i feel immense guilt that I can’t help out more and very sad when I talk to to DF that he will never be the same as he used to be, someone very clever and sharp who loved arguing the toss and had excellent humour has turned into someone who does not understand things and gets upset easily. I am often jealous of people my own age who have both parents in excellent health, but I know this is unreasonable, as they may have problems I don’t know about.
Yes, jealous is the word. My DM has never been able to be hands-on with my DC and it does make me sad. My friends parents pick up at school, take DC on holidays etc and we don't have that. I'm a SAHM so I've never needed it from a childcare perspective, but it would have been a nice relationship for my DC.
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