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De-tangling father in laws finances & entitlments

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Comefromaway · 27/04/2021 17:56

Fil is in a right state and his Dd (my sil) has asked me to help as I’m apparentky good with this kind of stuff.

Long story short, he’d been caring for mil with dementia. This took a huge toll on his mental & physical health. He was rushed into hospital last summer and things come to a head. He’d been sticking his ear in the sand, refusing help etc but he reached crisis point a few weeks ago and mil went into respite care (long overdue). He then understandably said he didn’t want her back (she was violent, refused all personal care help, smelt of urine etc etc).

Anyway long story short she’s been assessed as having no capacity and requiring 24/7 care in a home. Someone came to do do a financial assessment.

They own their own house jointly (no mortgage) only worth about £45k needs a lot of work. They have some savings in the bank & individual ISA. Under the savings limit with regards to the care home fees but just over the limit for pension credit.

He’s received a letter that apparently says his pension is going to be reduced to £130 per week. I’m assuming it’s because he’s now going to be classed as a single person. He says he can’t live on that and will have to go back to work part time. (His knees are so bad he can’t walk without pain & he suffers angina, pancreatitis. He’s on anti depressants.

I’m getying him too bring al his financial paperwork for me to look through. Mil gets a small private pension but I don’t think he does though I can’t be sure. Also I’m assuming now the ISA in her name can’t go towards his income. Do we have to declare all the other savings or split them in half. I assume mild pension will go to the home (my nans did)

Are they any other things I should be investigating. I thought of attendance allowance but he doesn’t need help with personal care even though his knees & pancreas are shot. But he does neglect himself when he gets depressed. We do have him round as often as possible and cook him a meal etc.

He got single person council tax and mil wasn’t counted due to the dements. I’m assuming he will no longer get her attendance allowance now she’s in the home.

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Comefromaway · 27/04/2021 18:37

Short term we have an issue that all bills etc are in mil’s name and it’s taking some companies longer than others to process the LPOA to change names (plus I’ve asked fil several times for copies so I can help sort it as Dh is one of the named POA)

No water meter. We’ve got lots of insurances to cancel (mil took out insurance on every appliance/electronic she ever bought).

He has a small car lowest insurance class. Without it he’d be housebound. He drives to our house to let our dog out when we are at work (to give him a change of scenery and chance to fuss the dog). And he picks up his disabled sister and takes her to appointments. They get on very well and if he couldn’t see her his mood would dip.

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cortex10 · 27/04/2021 18:33

He may be entitled to council tax support on top of his single person discount www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/money-legal/benefits-entitlements/council-tax-support/

hatgirl · 27/04/2021 18:29

He should be entitled to a 50% disregard on MILs pension if they are married.

I.e he should still be able to still receive 50% of MILs pension towards his living costs.

If that isn't enough he can also ask for MILs personal expenses allowance (PEA) to be varied. This sits at £24.90 as standard and is intended to be used towards clothes/toiletries etc for MIL but if it can be evidenced that she has additional expenses or that FIL doesn't have sufficient resources to maintain the former marital home/ live on then this can be increased to cover some of this.

RandomMess · 27/04/2021 18:21

Do all the usual budgeting things, check he's on the best phone, gas, electric, internet deal for him. Is he on a water meter rather than rates?

RandomMess · 27/04/2021 18:20

You need to explain he can live off his savings that's what they are there for and as they drop Pension Credit will increase.

Overtime he will get on top of things and find ways to economise. Does he have a car? If so does he really need it?

Comefromaway · 27/04/2021 18:02

I’d have thought he would be. Sil says he has £14k in savings, that will reduce the amount he’d be entitled to but not by much I don’t think. He had earmarked a lot of the money for long overdue home improvements. He had s new boiler last year as his packed in but he wasn’t charged for it (my dad runs a plumbing company) but the house is riddled with damp and the stair carpet is dangerous.

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thesandwich · 27/04/2021 17:59

Would he be entitled to pension credit? Could age uk or cab offer any guidance?

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