Falling out over Bojo and general Tory incompetence

I think a lot of the nasty replies you are getting are from Tory voters / Daily Mail readers

Why did you post on here if you don't want people's views? So you got angry with your elderly mother as you both have different views and now you are getting angry with posters if they don't agree with you.

Of course you are entitled to your views. As is your Mum. As are we. I suggest you apologise to her and step away from this thread as it clearly isn't going your way.

You go to your nearest mirror. Look at yourself in it. And repeat

I am an adult and some adults have different views to me. That is ok

In all serious though, your responses on here say a lot about you. And not in a good way

You’re not exactly doing yourself any favours by being rude to everyone who disagrees with your viewpoint or has a slightly alternative view.

If you’re always this objectionable it’s not hard to see why you fall out with people.

They say never discuss religion or politics for very good reasons....

It takes two to have a row, so don’t be too hard on yourself. The lockdown seems to be trying everyone’s patience this time around. I have relatives with similar views. I never raise controversial topics with them but if they insist on doing so, I keep it calm and factual as I can. For example, when they say how great it is that Brexit had happened, I remind them about their cherished grandchild’s disrupted plans to attend university in Europe.

I fell out with my mum many years ago on a flight back from Yugoslavia (yes really, that long ago) as she was always saying ‘well they say..’. Who the bloody hell are ‘they’ mum?

She’s been dead 18 years ....

Also - if your mum won't hear you rant and rave, who will?

I honestly could have written your post OP but about my in laws.

We've had some really difficult interactions recently so now I just say "let's not talk about politics" like a broken record and change the subject.

It's also not exactly political ranting - it's not party politics, it's just being angry about this whole shitshow.
As long as you were polite, feel free to express your views...

OP - I think you were well within your rights to express your views.

The Tories rely on a load on oldies following them without question.

And yes, your life has probably become a lot harder than hers. It's selfish of her not to see that...

Gawd I hope the next gov is Labour - just to get the lefties to stop ranting if nothing else.

I fundamentally disagree with most of my DPs political beliefs - pro Brexit, Boris and even worse Trump. DF also makes racist remarks.
But they love me and are in their 80s.

I've learned to do something called bean dipping, so if they start discussing a topic I don't want to I just reply with something completely non related. Do the same if they try again.

I had to bite my tongue when DM said that we would have done the same as Dominic Cummings if we needed childcare. Oh righto we'd have broken a national lockdown and travelled round the country with coronavirus then would we - great she thinks so much of us. Had to bite my tongue on that one as first time I saw her since the first lockdown.

I guess it's slightly easier for me in that mine are in their 80s so every time I see them I worry that it might be the last time and I don't want to argue over something where neither of us will change our minds.

Leave her alone. Honestly, why would you think anyone would benefit from your political ranting. I was a bit like this in my student days, it must have been wearing for my parents.

@Peterbear personally i disagree with some of your comments about the government and their handling of things. However, I fully respect your right to have them and to discuss in a civilised manner.

I think you owe your mum an apology for the way you went about airing your views. You know already that ranting at her and allowing it to become a row was wrong and a little bit childish. You don't however owe her an apology for holding a differing view.

Anarcho-syndicalist, ah that's a blast from the past!

DH's parents are like this. It's an English working class thing, not particularly allied to left or right, but they were also teenagers at the beginning of the 1960s and the whole counter cultural thing passed them by.

My mum is Scottish and pretty lefty, and my dad is a former anarcho-syndicalist who studied history/politics at uni in the sixties. They are only a couple of years younger than PILs but a whole different generation.

DH is scared of his parents whereas I have a much more equal relationship with mine.

Ardent brexiteers and blindly loyal Tories tend not to like talking about how they've fucked us all over. Funny that.

I wouldn't apologise unless she does. If it comes up again, say that you disagree and are happy to talk about why. If it doesn't come up again, then leave it. Some people are in massive denial about Boris's cronyism, his lying and his incompetence - even though these were all evident before he came PM.

Oh it's annoying but I no longer talk politics with my mum.

I love her but not her political views. It's been said when we were both younger, she's now in her eighties and I just try and find common ground.

@Peterbear don’t worry, I have the same problem. As far as my Mum goes, if it’s in the Mail it’s gospel. On top of that, she thinks Trump is fabulous. There is very little we can reasonably talk about anymore.