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Do Not Resuscitate order - urgent help needed

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DorsetCamping · 30/05/2020 14:52

DM (74) has been in hospital since Monday with severe dehydration, anaemia, high potassium levels and acute kidney injury.

She has not been well for some time with various conditions but has enjoyed a reasonable quality of life - in her own home and driving.

Over the last few days, she has become increasingly confused, distressed and drowsy which is so difficult to witness as obviously I'm not allowed in to see her. We have had a few Zoom calls but it's not the same.

I've just had a call from a doctor who says that despite various scans and tests they cannot work out what is happening and DM declining. Scans have not shown up anything and feel it may be down to conflicting meds for all her conditions which has put her system out of balance. She has now been taken off of all pre-existing meds.

Out of the blue the doctor then said that as mum 'has a poor quality of life' it was her opinion that a DNR should be put in place although they were still continuing treat and hoped she may pick up.

This is a huge shock to me - the doctor just didnt seem to get that DM actually had a pretty good quality of life before this kicked off, rather she is a frail, very poorly old lady who should be put out of her misery.

I am next of kin, DM is in no state to make her wishes known (although on previous hospital admissions had always been adamant that all reasonable efforts are made to resuscitate, should it need to happen). Can I insist that no such order is put in place, certainly not in the short term?

I am besides myself with worry and that the hospital are just happy to let her slip away. I have been granted a visit, which I know full well the implications of, in these lockdown times.

OP posts:
DorsetCamping · 30/05/2020 15:05

Thank you for your replies. I accept I have to realistic. It just came out of the blue and came across almost as if they were withdrawing treatment. I certainly don't want to put her through a futile and traumatic procedure but want every effort made to help her recover

OP posts:
originalusernamefail · 30/05/2020 15:02

No. Neither your mother nor you can demand a treatment which is what CPR is. What you can do is discuss your concerns with her medical team and they have a responsibility to give your their reasons as to why they think CPR would not be beneficial in your mothers case. It is a terrible time to have an ill / critically ill family member especially in the current circumstances. I hope your mother is comfortable and begins to improve soon. The hospital trust I work in has a good information booklet about CPR aimed at families and patients. As a PP mentioned it doesn't mean she won't be treated only that they will not provide CPR if she were to pass away. Sorry OP.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 30/05/2020 15:00

If you think this is what she would have wanted you can insist, but resuscitation is a brutal procedure.

Asdf12345 · 30/05/2020 14:58

Whilst you can insist on being involved in the conversation about it, it is not your choice and your views whilst they should be listened to don’t change the fact that it is a clinical decision usually based on likely futility.

ilovemydogandmrobama2 · 30/05/2020 14:55

Yes! You can insist on this.

Tbug · 30/05/2020 14:55

Your mum can still have escalation of all treatment but a DNAR is only if her heart stops naturally cos they don't think rescusitation is right. Thinking of you, talk to them about her escalation xx

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