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Relative not eating properly

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Lamplighter234 · 21/02/2020 10:01

My lovely FIL aged 80 is recently bereaved, and historically MIL had done all the cooking - I mean everything. FIL isnt really what I’d call a good eater, but he just doesnt / won’t make himself any meals.
It’s a lack of knowledge, lack of interest but also a lack of willingness to learn any simple receipes or even try to put a meal together.
I’m at my wits end, he will only make sandwiches for himself. We invite him over twice a week and he says how good the food is, how he likes home cooked food etc, how he’s not had any hot food etc.
He’s active, has interests and gets out and about every day so I don’t think meals on wheels is appropriate (as he’s put a lot). When he’s got ready meals he just let them go out of date, just literally can’t be bothered to cook them.
I work FT, as does DH. I can’t take responsibility for feeding him, but also he can’t exist on Bread. He was just so used to to MIL making all his food. I’ve tried suggesting buying chicken breasts and pre prepared veg, making simple pasta meals but it all falls on deaf ears.
Does anyone have any experience or suggestions please, or do I just leave him to it?

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Orangeblossom78 · 29/02/2020 21:17

As he likes going out would he consider joining a lunch club, my dad goes to one of these they do hot meals twice a week? Might be something like that in his area

Also what about he could have a shopping delivery with things like Quiches, pies, things to go with it such as salad etc, maybe he has a local shop and can pick up things there also.

It sounds like motivation as well, maybe that will come back with time.

mrsmalcolmreynolds · 22/02/2020 23:55

Fortisip is one brand.

mrsmalcolmreynolds · 22/02/2020 23:54

Hi - just to say I'd focus on calories, if he's eating something that's good. There are some fortified juices available that pack in both calories and vitamins if you wanted to look at those.

Lamplighter234 · 22/02/2020 16:37

Shoobydoo123 Thanks 😊

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Lamplighter234 · 22/02/2020 16:33

Thanks everyone, He does like sweet things so, custard & tinned fruit are a good option I think. I don’t actually know about tuna, but yes those pots might be a good idea for him too, I’ll ask him about tuna.
I have been trying to encourage him to go our local Morrison’s for lunch a bit more too.
Thanks everyone who’s responded, I’ve realised it’s still early days and maybe the lack of vitamins etc At his age isn’t as dire as I thought.

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Shoobydoo123 · 22/02/2020 11:41

How about this book ? It was written by a daughter whose mother died and whose father (once he had exhausted casseroles from neighbours) needed to learn the basics. Maybe you could work through it with him ?
www.amazon.co.uk/Teaching-Cook-Flapjack-Miranda-Gardiner/dp/1740668774?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

ineedaholidaynow · 22/02/2020 11:20

Does he like tuna? There are tuna pasta pots you can get which don’t have to be heated up and are long life. DS uses them on weekend hikes with scouts and DofE

MereDintofPandiculation · 22/02/2020 10:31

I'd be encouraging him to go out for meals more often. I had some success in persuading my dad out for a hot meal once a week - there was a pub which did cheap lunches, and the local Morrisons did very nice scrambled eggs on toast. I also made sure he had a steady stream of home-made cakes on the grounds that at least they had eggs in.

We did get advice from a dietician, and she advised not to worry about the eating guidelines appropriate to a younger person, to go back to full-fat milk, and butter instead of margarine. Appetite is less, so food has to be more calorie-dense.

At the moment it's about making sure he has plenty of food that he will want to eat, and given that he is elderly and emotionally at a low ebb, this is likely to be sweet rather than savoury. So lots of cakes, and try also those little pudding pots - fruit and custard, or rice pudding with difference flavourings. Also tins of fruit that can be eaten cold, and tinned custard. Anything that can be opened and eaten without having to go near a microwave or pan.

FLOrenze · 22/02/2020 09:07

First of all, you sound absolutely lovely and so kind. I have a lot of experience in elderly care and I have to say that you are worrying unnecessarily. In his position, recently bereaved and aged 80, he will have very little appetite. Yes, he would regain his appetite if you cooked every meal for him, but that is impractical.

In our local Wetherspoons, lots of elderly people are eating alone and that might be something you could get him to try. Perhaps going along once a week with his social group. Eating sandwiches though will not do him any harm. Perhaps you can supplement it with Soups in plastic containers from the supermarket. Also some tinned fruit might be nice for him.

OverByYer · 22/02/2020 00:47

As @ScribblingMilly said, vitamins etc don’t count for much at his age. He just needs calories and if he gets them from just bread or biscuits it doesn’t matter too much . Don’t put so much pressure on him ( or you)

MissEliza · 22/02/2020 00:42

Op it's great that he's so social. It makes a huge difference.

LIZS · 21/02/2020 20:33

Wiltshire Farm Foods were good when dm did not fancy cooking. However she is living proof that you can exist on a diet rich in white bread, porridge, chicken/fish and potatoes Hmmif he has a microwave would he do jacket potatoes, with cheese, beans, coleslaw, tuna etc or soup?

inwood · 21/02/2020 20:30

It's still very early days. I'd look at something like a delivery service from cook or Wiltshire farm foods to get through this stage if finances allow. It's very difficult.

Beamur · 21/02/2020 20:25

It's lovely that he has you looking out for him.
I'd concentrate on trying to up his calorie intake, even if it seems a bit lacking in nutrition right now.
My MIL is in a care home and they seem to offer a steady stream of snacks and cakes in between meals. I think little and often is ideal as it helps keep the appetite going.

ScribblingMilly · 21/02/2020 20:23

Tinned sardines/baked beans/cheese/peanut butter on the toast?

ineedaholidaynow · 21/02/2020 20:16

When DM had to go into hospital, DF who couldn't really cook used to fire up the BBQ even if it was winter!

CalmYoBadSelf · 21/02/2020 20:12

DM had been the chief cook and bottlewasher all her life yet went through this after DF died. It took time and encouragement to get her to start shopping, cooking and eating again. Until then I batch cooked and took her food she could just warm up. It will be very hard for your FIL and he will need a lot of support
Aunt used Wiltshire Farm Foods as she had health issues and was unable to cook but her carers could microwave these easily.
SIL's DF had never cooked but learned basics like omelettes, cheese on toast, etc which he used alongside food she batch cooked and M&S ready meals

Lamplighter234 · 21/02/2020 20:03

OP do you think he goes out all the time because he can't cope being on his own rather than he is actually enjoying going out?

No, he’s always been very social and done a variety of things local to him. He’s still able to get out and about and relatively fit for his age.

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Lamplighter234 · 21/02/2020 19:59

He has lost a bit of weight, and he was probably a little underweight to start with. It’s the lack of nutrients, calories and variety of food that’s troubling us. He’s eating mainly sandwiches or toast, except the two days he comes to us for dinner. The clubs he goes to have tea & biscuits - so that’s some extra calories I guess.
There’s no other close local relatives, his daughter (my SIL) lives abroad, and he’d probably say he was fine anyway. He’s always done cleaning and is ok doing washing so I’ve no concerns about that, the house is cleaner & tidier than mine!
I’ll see how he gets on with the food we got over the weekend, I’d be happier if he would have a boiled egg with his toast, but I fear he’s got no interest in doing it.

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Wheresthesandman · 21/02/2020 19:24

The Cook meals look great (although I’ve not tried them myself- yet), do you think he’d try those? They are quite pricey, but even if he just had a couple a week?

It’s sad that he obviously misses hot meals, but at the minute I’d focus on nutrition more than hot meals. It is perfectly possible to have a healthy diet from cold food, it’s just not very exciting. Do you think he’s eating a balanced diet?

Twillow · 21/02/2020 19:15

It's early days for him. Let him do the things he feels confident with i.e. sandwiches, make sure there's things like pickle, cold meat, tomatoes, that can perk it up. If he misses hot food, maybe he would use a sandwich toaster?
Teach him to make an omelette, when he's ready.

cobwebfew · 21/02/2020 19:11

When making meals do have leftovers you could make for him that he could freeze and defrost at a later date? Does he have other relatives besides you who can offer some support? If so could you batch cook meals between you? Not ideal obviously but it's an idea to make sure that he eats nutritional meals?

LowcaAndroidow · 21/02/2020 19:01

I would also try to lower your expectations. He can live quite well on mostly sandwiches! Maybe vary it a bit with quiche, soup and other ready to eat stuff.

Wiltshire Farm Foods is also a good suggestion. A couple of cafe or lunch club cooked meals, a couple of hot dinners (and leftovers) with you and a couple of ready meals a week are fine if he's eating sandwiches the rest of the time.

HeddaGarbled · 21/02/2020 18:54

We can’t get meals on wheels where I live: social services recommended Wiltshire Farm Foods.

Beamur · 21/02/2020 18:47

It's a really hard time for all of you.
To be honest, I'd back off a bit and certainly don't tell him he's worrying you.
Is he losing weight? If not, leave him to eat sandwiches right now. He's getting out, eating well with you and the odd lunch out with friends. This is fine.

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