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Understandable but unreasonable

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picklesdragonisawelshdragon · 18/02/2020 15:20

I'm really struggling.

DM has always been difficult, but DF reigned her in a bit till he died three years ago.

If I explained, I'd be here for four pages and you'd end up as stressed as me, just reading it!

Basically, this week she's being particularly hard work. It's the anniversary of DF's funeral, and she's having a cataract op. So I understand she's very stressed. But she's also completely unreasonable!

I said I'd go down to see her this weekend- it's a 3 hour drive. I planned to go down Friday morning. She's assumed I'll drive down Thursday daytime. I agreed to go down Thursday, leaving after traffic so arriving 8.30pm. She says that's too late she'll be in bed.

In trying to untangle all this, she's accused me of gaslighting her. I get the guilt trip -'no one loves me, I've lost the only person who ever put me first'.

She guilt tripped me into going on holiday with her, which she is paying for, and now says she's thinking of changing her mind. Well fine, but I've spent £500 on the deposit, insurance, travel to the airport etc.

We invite her to come on holiday with us, but she never wants to do what we do.

She's driving me potty!

So understandable - vulnerable, elderly, widowed etc
But unreasonable.

How do I handle it? Any ideas?

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picklesdragonisawelshdragon · 18/02/2020 17:01

Take off the first couple of lines? Start with 'I intended...'?

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JKScot4 · 18/02/2020 17:00

Email is too nice, you’re all apologetic and accommodating, firmness is needed.

picklesdragonisawelshdragon · 18/02/2020 16:55

You are going to think I'm so wet.... she's 84. She's been 'highly strung' her whole life. I've 'managed' her for years, more so since dad's illness and death. I've been able to be kind and avoid major rows, while maintaining boundaries.
She can not regulate her emotions.

"Hi,
I thought I’d email- I know when you are angry and upset I never manage to explain myself very well. I’m sorry I’ve made you upset- this was always going to be a difficult week, and I’ve made it worse.

I intended to come on Friday so that I had time to do all the usual things- washing, packing, sorting the fridge- without getting stressed and rushed. This week I need to go to the pool, and had intended to go to a support group. I’ve cancelled the group which buys me a bit of time so I’ll be able to come down Thursday eveningg_ and do the car mot in the morning. I’ll watch the traffic patterns today and tomorrow to see how early I can head off. Hopefully you’ll be up, if not perhaps I can let myself in.

I’d never want you to be upset- apart from anything else, I get stressed and anxious too which doesn’t help either of us!"

See you soon!

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RatherBeRiding · 18/02/2020 16:49

What on earth is understandable about her behaviour? She's running rings round you and probably did with your DF who did her bidding all their married life for the sake of some peace by the sound of it.

I agree with Drum that you need to stand up for yourself. If driving on the Thursday doesn't suit you, then TELL her when you will be coming and stick to your plans.

If you don't want to go on holiday with her, then don't. She will never "understand" that other people see her as difficult because such people never do.

Best to decide how much you want to engage with her behaviour, and refuse to overstep the boundaries. If she tries the guilt tripping, then just don't respond. Find some favourite MN phrases and keep repeating them. "That doesn't work for me/us". "I'm sorry you feel that way". etc.

She will only drive you potty if you let her. Being an elderly widow isn't a free pass to make your life a misery.

Apricotfool · 18/02/2020 16:38

Show us your email 😁 if you give her an inch she takes a mile doesn’t she? How old is she? Any dementia?

JKScot4 · 18/02/2020 16:37

If you have a key surely you can let yourself in? If not tell her you’ll see her Friday.
A cataract is a very minor op, she’ll be ok until the next day.
She sounds incredibly self centred, either stand up to her or step back, she will drain the life from you.
What age is she?

picklesdragonisawelshdragon · 18/02/2020 16:36

Yes Autumn. Always.

I'd love to hear what you think when you have more time.

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AutumnRose1 · 18/02/2020 16:33

I can only do a short reply at the moment but there’s nothing understandable about this.

Just wanted to ask, was she like this before he died? That would give a different slant to it.

picklesdragonisawelshdragon · 18/02/2020 16:01

Dad didn't rein her in so much as spoil her rotten so she had fewer opportunities to complain!

The problem is she's extremely difficult and unreasonable but she doesn't know that. She can't understand why people find her difficult and I've never managed to explain it. She's basically a bit of a narc, she genuinely can't understand other people's priorities matter.

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picklesdragonisawelshdragon · 18/02/2020 15:59

Oh gosh! I'm taken aback.

Well, she says that because it's her cataract op day, so she might be tired, so 8.30. She doesn't sleep well, so is usually up quite late.

I've written an email (not sent yet) but I have a feeling you'll tell me I'm being a doormat!

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Drum2018 · 18/02/2020 15:56

How have you spent money on a holiday deposit when you say she's paying for it? If she was to pay it then tell her she still owes you that money. Why on earth would you want to go on holiday with her in the first place? You need to stand up for yourself a bit more. You tell her you are travelling on Friday - why then do you even engage in conversation about Thursday. Simply say no, I'm coming on Friday, no negotiation. If she kicks off then tell her you are not allowing her to manipulate you and you are no longer coming. Don't be a soft touch. You need to take over the reigns and do as your father did - reign her in.

UghnotherStain · 18/02/2020 15:48

Aside from everything else, why on earth does she go to bed at 8.30pm?

My granddad is always in bed by 9pm latest and he's only 67. Retired. But he gets up very early.

Thwackadoodle · 18/02/2020 15:45

Sorry, but it's not understandable unless you factor in that your DM is manipulative and actually quite nasty.

dustibooks · 18/02/2020 15:39

Aside from everything else, why on earth does she go to bed at 8.30pm?

Do you have siblings, or is it just you shouldering the burden?

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