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Elderly mum made disasterous decision.

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Soontobe60 · 14/02/2020 22:07

My mum and stepdad lived at the other end of the country to me up until yesterday. He has dementia and can't be left alone at all. I've not seen them for 3 months. They've been trying to move near to me and my siblings for 6 months and yesterday was the moving day. They had arranged for their furniture to go into storage for a few days to give us time to sort out their new home, and told me they had booked a hotel for the week.

Well, turns out that's not quite true! They've arrived with nowhere to stay, expecting one of us to put them up, but as step dad can't do stairs, that's a no no as we all live in houses with stairs! So at 4pm today I arranged a hotel for them for the weekend. Mum felt unable to drive anymore so I collected them from my brothers and took them to the hotel. En route, she told me that they hadn't yet had the money from their buyer, even though she had moved into their flat yesterday as soon as they left. Not only that, but the purchase of their new property hadn't gone through yet either! It seems like they are temporarily homeless! If I'd have known this I'd have told them to stay put!

Mum is not the easiest person to get on with at the best of times. She shouted at me tonight because I wouldn't let her smoke in my car. She shouted at her DH because he was walking slowly but he can't walk any faster. After dropping them off at the hotel, I just sat in my car and wept. My DH and I have just spent two years looking after my MIL, and only yesterday scattered her ashes as she passed away in January. We both agreed that looking after her had taken a toll on us both and although we were sad at her death, it was also a relief. (Her quality of life was just really bad).
Now I just feel that the same thing is happening again but instead of looking after a gentle, kind MIL who never demanded anything, I'm going to be looking after a cantankerous mother and possibly a step father who I have hardly got a relationship with. And I feel crap for thinking that way! I can feel my blood pressure going through the roof.

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Soontobe60 · 18/02/2020 20:39

@Disfordarkchocolate

I'd never move away from my own children and grandchild even though I'm tempted! Although I've brought my DDs up to be completely independent, I want to be able to support them any way I can. My dm has been the opposite, and has generally speaking put her own needs first. Her own DF had Parkinson's for 10 years and she did bugger all to help. My grandma lived to be 101, but again my dm didn't visit her much - maybe twice a year, whilst me, my sister and my aunt visited every week.

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Gingernaut · 18/02/2020 20:38

Sorry OP, but it sounds like she herself might be suffering from some sort of dementia.

www.dementiauk.org/get-support/understanding-changes-in-behaviour/false-beliefs-and-delusions-in-dementia/

Is there any way you could contact her solicitor and/or estate agent and try to figure out what's going on?

Has her property been sold?

Has she actually bought the new house?

I'd be querying all of this.

VenusTiger · 18/02/2020 20:37

So she's opinionated and stubborn - most elderly people are ime - take the bloody paracetomol off her please!! too much aspirin can cause her to feel panicked and also dehydrated.
I'd be wondering if calling an ambulance might be a good idea tbh!

Soontobe60 · 18/02/2020 20:33

The EA didn't give the keys to the buyers, she did.
Her DH does have children but they don't have anything to do with him, haven't done so for years.
To add insult to injury, dm had an affair with her now DH when we were young children. When my DF found the out he forgave her and they stayed together, seemingly happily. Certainly us children weren't aware of anything wrong. However his then wife threw him out and moved away so he didn't see his children for years. He eventually married wife number 2 who was 20 years younger than him, and had more children. When I was 30, my dm was 55. She persuaded my DF that if she moved to London for 5 years to teach, she would end up with a much better pension. She came home every 6 weeks. After 2 years of this, she finally admitted to my DF in a letter that she was leaving him. She stayed in London and about a year later told us about her new partner. She married him as soon as the divorce came through. It finally came out a few years later that the man she married was the same she'd had the affair with. He left wife 2 for my dm, and his second set of children.
My DF was absolutely devastated. Actually, so were we even though we are all adults. There's an awful lot of resentment there. Although we all eventually got on with her DH, none of us are prepared to spend any of our time looking after him. Dm said today that if she dies before him, she knows I'd make sure he was taken care of as I'm the practical one.

As I said in my last post, I helped look after my MIL and never once felt the resentment and frustration that I do about my own mother.

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Disfordarkchocolate · 18/02/2020 20:32

Gin doesn't cover this. I bet you're all planning to sell up and move to the other end of the country.

NotStayingIn · 18/02/2020 20:25

Bloody hell OP, I'm so sorry, what a nightmare. I have no advice but just wanted to give you a virtual hug and a gin refill. Hope it all gets sorted.

Soontobe60 · 18/02/2020 20:19

She is generally a very capable woman but now feels like she knows better than anyone, including professionals.
For example, she's angry that her dog can't go into kennels or doggy day care because she 'knows' her dog doesn't need to have its vaccinations and it's all a conspiracy to make money out of dog owners. She believes that she knows better what meds to take for her arthritis, and is taking Anadin Max every 2 hours despite being told not to and being given naproxen and omezaprole. She believes if she gets her DH incontinence pads it will just make him lazy and he'll stop bothering to go to the toilet. She believes that her solicitor is just out to make as much money from her as he can, has been sent the money for the sale of her flat and is hiding it to get extra interest from it.

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AutumnRose1 · 18/02/2020 20:05

“ She managed to sell her house, box her furniture and move, she can't be that incompetent.”

This.

JudyCoolibar · 18/02/2020 20:02

Can you speak to whoever she saw at the walk-in centre about her refusal to be hospitalised? This is potentially a really dangerous situation for her.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 18/02/2020 20:01

Why did the EA give the keys to the new people? That’s why you pay for solicitors and EA’s.

Dehydration can cause mental issues in the elderly as I’m sure you know. Once she is rehydrated maybe things will be clear for her. But I think with a poorly husband she needs to look for a care home for him, if she isn’t up to it. Does her husband have children who can help,or make decisions etc?

FraglesRock · 18/02/2020 20:00

I think you need to give her a list of numbers
Decorater
Handy man
Gp
111
Solicitor
Estate agent

And then have a morning off, each of you need to agree a session where you'll sort stuff so you don't all get dragged in at once.

She managed to sell her house, box her furniture and move, she can't be that incompetent.

slipperywhensparticus · 18/02/2020 19:51

Oh wow! So have they even been paid for there home?

AutumnRose1 · 18/02/2020 19:47

OP is your mother mentally healthy?

If she is, I would leave her to it. It sounds like attention seeking. It could be extreme stress but then she’d need to change her attitude before I helped out.

64sNewName · 18/02/2020 19:40

Bloody hell OP GinGinGin

Not at this stage yet myself, but I can see it approaching round the corner. I fervently hope things improve for you

Soontobe60 · 18/02/2020 19:37

@PragmaticWench

Not great! DM spoke to her solicitor yesterday then told me that everything had gone through and asked me to collect the keys to the new bungalow this morning. Drove over to the estate agents first thing to collect them, DB had organised for the furniture to be brought out of storage this afternoon but dm got it wrong. EA knew nothing, I spent an hour in there whilst they phoned round to find out. Seems that dm had been told that the solicitor had all the final,paperwork and it would exchange today, complete tomorrow!
Meanwhile overnight dm (who along with her DH has landed on my DB) has had what sounds like a panic attack, took it upon herself to phone 111 and was told to go to the local walk n centre at noon. I took her, spent 2 hours there, we were told she needed to go to a+e urgently as she's showing signs of severe dehydration. Called at dbs on the way to make sure her DH was ok, wherein she ended up screaming at me, accused me of lying and refused to go. My dsis turned up, tried to persuade her, she got screamed at too.
So no hospital visit, no house move, DB at his wits end, dm becoming more unreasonable probably because of dehydration and her refusal to even speak to me and my dsis.
Al in all, it's great!!!

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PragmaticWench · 17/02/2020 15:09

How are things going with the house sale @Soontobe60?

Sycamoretrees · 17/02/2020 00:34

Sounds tough! Hope the finances and the house situation get sorted tomorrow. Take the rest one bite at a time, trying to deal with everything at the same time is just too overwhelming. Sounds like you're going to need all your strength for fighting for the support they (and you) need. In my experience you've got to be very blunt about what they need and what you can and can't help with. Keep posting back here if you need help with staying firm or just need to vent.

Soontobe60 · 16/02/2020 20:55

Thanks for all your responses. It's been a hard weekend! It seems my stepfather (SF) is much more poorly than we first thought. He's barely able to walk and is incontinent. He has to be fed. He can smoke, and does so constantly! Dm is convinced that when she speaks to the solicitor n the morningnit will all be sorted and she can move in to her new bungalow in the afternoon!
My dsis drove over to the new place this afternoon, she said its in a very bad state, having been empty for months. Dm seems to think we will all rally round tomorrow and redecorate???
At this rate, I'll be an alcoholic by Friday!

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Babybel90 · 14/02/2020 23:37

Who are their solicitors for the house sale and how did the ‘buyer’ get the keys, they’re usually handed over by the estate agent, and I’d be surprised if they’d do that without having their commission payment in their bank first.

If the buyer really is in without having handed over the cash I’d be very concerned.

I’d recommend talking to your siblings and only discussing this with your mother as a group so you’re not left shouldering the burden.

AutumnRose1 · 14/02/2020 23:36

OP I’m so sorry this is happening

The first thing I’m wondering is if she’s telling the truth

She has capacity so I’d ask her what her plan is. Perhaps all siblings go to hotel together and ask?

Atthebottomofthegarden · 14/02/2020 23:13

Oh and 💐 OP, I’m sorry you have to deal with this.

Atthebottomofthegarden · 14/02/2020 23:12

Sheltered housing sounds like the best solution, but of course nothing can be done until you know what has happened with their house. You won’t be able to get hold of the solicitor at the weekend but you can probably talk to the Estate Agents who will definitely know whether the sale went through or not.

Canklesforankles · 14/02/2020 23:02

That sounds tough. I’d have cried too.
Would sheltered housing be possible if their purchase doesn’t happen?

MethodToThisMadness · 14/02/2020 22:59

If your stepfather has dementia, he is a homeless vulnerable adult and may be eligible for support- either through the council or otherwise. I hope someone else with more knowledge may be along soon.

Drum2018 · 14/02/2020 22:55

I'd be looking at care homes or assisted living in your area asap and have a bit of research done in case things go tits up. You could be sitting on your arse watching day time tv all day and still not have to take on their care. Seriously you need to get out of that mindset. After my mum died my dad was unable to live alone. Neither myself or my siblings could/would have taken on his care. He went into a nursing home. It wasn't ideal for him but at least he was safe, warm, fed and looked after. If your mother even hints at moving in with any of you, then give her information on local assisted living/care homes and assure her you will visit her regularly. That might give her the boost she needs to sort this mess out.